From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Tue May 1 09:23:08 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Tue May 1 07:50:35 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA - In-Reply-To: <46363037.3090300@wildmedic.org> References: <4635AD55.1080208@pc.jaring.my> <46363037.3090300@wildmedic.org> Message-ID: <4636967C.2070005@pc.jaring.my> Sorry about this. All presentation and workshop slots are 45 mins long. The timetable as wip had been regularly posted to the oshca web portal. Some workshop sessions run over 2 slots. I'll be sending the time table today. There were some changes that needed to be done. Rgds, Molly Jel Coward wrote: > Molly Cheah wrote: > >> Dear Jel, >> >> Can you please check the tittle and content of your abstract and make >> the necessary changes except the abstract number and send it back to >> conference as sson as possible. >> >> This final version will be used for all programmes and web-sites. >> > > Hi Molly et al > > I am wanting to prepare my presentation but I don't have a duration or > type of session to fit it to. Do you have that information yet please? > > Thanks > > Jel > > From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Tue May 1 11:49:55 2007 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (tuanta@iwayvietnam.com) Date: Tue May 1 10:16:42 2007 Subject: [participants] Hello everyone Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070501/bc535802/attachment.html From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Tue May 1 12:51:02 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Tue May 1 11:18:06 2007 Subject: Fwd: [participants] Hello everyone In-Reply-To: <2c9aeb960704302122s413f3172l3468463899ccbaa0@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c9aeb960704302122s413f3172l3468463899ccbaa0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4636C736.1020608@pc.jaring.my> OK. Alvin. It's done. Anyone who is attending or intend to attend the conference can go to http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants to subscribe to the list. Then they can post to the list. Molly Alvin Marcelo wrote: > Hi Molly, > > Requesting to include Balthas Seibold in the participants list. He is > our project manager from InWent. Thank you. > > balthas.seibold@inwent.org > > alvin > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 10:49:55 +0700 > Subject: [participants] Hello everyone > To: participants@oshca.org > > Hello everyone, > > My name is Tuan, from Vietnam. > > I currently work as the Director of Technologies for iWay, an IT firm > based in Hanoi, Vietnam. > Our main business fields are Web Design/Development, e-Commerce and > Linux/FOSS Support services using main technologies are based on FOSS > platforms including: LAMP stack (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) and more. > > I go to the conference with a very initial idea of developing an > Online Drug store where people can search drugs, tablets, pricing, > experts' advice, news and more. Of course, it will be developed on > LAMP. > I hope we will have got an interesting time and learn and share lot of > useful knowledge in the Conference. > > See you all again. > > Kind regards, > > TUAN, Truong Anh > Director of Technologies, > iWay, > No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam > Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 > Fax: 844-514-8138 > Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com > Website: www.iwayvietnam.com > ------------------------- > Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn > > > > From ravindra at opensource.lk Tue May 1 01:29:07 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Tue May 1 12:25:54 2007 Subject: [participants] Expectations Message-ID: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Hi Everyone, I am Ravindra De Silva from the SAHANA (http://sahana.lk/) core team. SAHANA is a Free and Open Source Disaster Management System that was deployed in several large scale disasters. We are very happy to be the 2006 FSF award winner for social benefit (http://www.fsf.org/social-benefit-award-2006) , but our biggest achievement is to to help humanity. what i would like to give and take back from this conference is "How SAHANA can be a data collection source for health care". As i see there are two perspectives to this 1. SAHANA is deployed at the time of disaster and disaster victim data ,shelter data,ect that is collected can be used by health care applications. we are fortunate to have a good FOSS doctor , Dr. Nandalal in our community, and from his own words "Disasters are followed by health concerns and problems, what ever the type of disaster. Therefore healthcare workers must be aware of and be familiar with Sahana, as they will also be able to use the information to anticipate and plan healthcare initiatives." 2. Bio Surveillance module. we at SAHANA did a preliminary study to develop such a module. The conclusion was , to properly identify what data to collect and how to analyze them with some intelligence ( we cannot simply go for a very primitive unsupervised neural net), we need medical knowledge. and more than that there should be a central point that collects data from all over the world, analyze and identify any outbreaks with in less time as possible. on the other hand , why should we reinvent the wheel ,when there are already open source tools available. NetEpi(http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-health/epi/open_source_tools.html) seems to be very popular and Real time outbreak and disease surveillance (RODS) (http://rods.health.pitt.edu/) is also very mature. I would like to see the following deployment model. SAHANA is pre-deployed all over the world as disaster management system and continuously collect people data. Then SAHANA can feed these data to either NetEpi or RODS server, or any other server where the choice is given to the system admin. The analyzing happens at these servers with data from sources other than SAHANA installations. at the same time SAHANA should be able to query these servers for any outbreaks. so the intelligence of bio surveillance is embedded with in NetEpi,RODS,ect and SAHANA is just a data source and sink for those. according to that thinking i would like to learn in general about health care and specifically about bio disaster management software ( i came to know only two, but i am sure there many more i would like to explore). please excuse me for the lengthy email :) see you all in KL cheers ravindra http://r4vi.org ....... You may be right, I may be crazy, But it just may be a lunatic you're looking for! -- Billy Joel From wross at mendocinohre.org Tue May 1 15:35:33 2007 From: wross at mendocinohre.org (Will Ross) Date: Tue May 1 14:02:30 2007 Subject: [participants] Expectations In-Reply-To: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <34E61FCD-754A-4865-8E31-62F23CAA6ACA@mendocinohre.org> Ravindra, Later today the USA Centers for Disease Control will release a major new contract opportunity for the development of syndromic surveillance demonstration projects. I am hopeful that this contract will break new ground in the development of further functionality for public health reporting. A number of us in the USA are working on new open source components to address the specific real time biosurveillance functionality sought by the new CDC specifications. I hope to be able to describe some of these efforts in my presentation. In particular, I think the work of Dr. Bill Lober and his grad students at the University of Washington deserves special mention. They have built some fine tools. Looking forward to productive discussions at the conference, With best regards, [wr] - - - - - - - - On Apr 30, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Ravindra De Silva wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am Ravindra De Silva from the SAHANA (http://sahana.lk/) core team. > SAHANA is a Free and Open Source Disaster Management System that was > deployed in several large scale disasters. We are very happy to be the > 2006 FSF award winner for social benefit > (http://www.fsf.org/social-benefit-award-2006) , but our biggest > achievement is to to help humanity. > > > what i would like to give and take back from this conference is > "How SAHANA can be a data collection source for health care". > > As i see there are two perspectives to this > > 1. SAHANA is deployed at the time of disaster and disaster victim > data ,shelter data,ect that is collected can be used by health care > applications. we are fortunate to have a good FOSS doctor , Dr. > Nandalal > in our community, and from his own words > "Disasters are followed by health concerns and problems, what ever the > type of disaster. Therefore healthcare workers must be aware of and be > familiar with Sahana, as they will also be able to use the information > to anticipate and plan healthcare initiatives." > > 2. Bio Surveillance module. > we at SAHANA did a preliminary study to develop such a module. The > conclusion was , to properly identify what data to collect and how to > analyze them with some intelligence ( we cannot simply go for a very > primitive unsupervised neural net), we need medical knowledge. and > more > than that there should be a central point that collects data from all > over the world, analyze and identify any outbreaks with in less > time as > possible. > > on the other hand , why should we reinvent the wheel ,when there are > already open source tools available. > NetEpi(http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-health/epi/ > open_source_tools.html) seems to be very popular and Real time > outbreak and disease surveillance (RODS) (http:// > rods.health.pitt.edu/) is also very mature. > > I would like to see the following deployment model. SAHANA is > pre-deployed all over the world as disaster management system and > continuously collect people data. Then SAHANA can feed these data to > either NetEpi or RODS server, or any other server where the choice is > given to the system admin. The analyzing happens at these servers with > data from sources other than SAHANA installations. at the same time > SAHANA should be able to query these servers for any outbreaks. so the > intelligence of bio surveillance is embedded with in > NetEpi,RODS,ect and > SAHANA is just a data source and sink for those. according to that > thinking i would like to learn in general about health care and > specifically about bio disaster management software ( i came to know > only two, but i am sure there many more i would like to explore). > > please excuse me for the lengthy email :) see you all in KL > > cheers > ravindra > > > http://r4vi.org > ....... > You may be right, I may be crazy, > But it just may be a lunatic you're looking for! > -- Billy Joel > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > [wr] - - - - - - - - will ross chief information officer mendocino health records exchange 216 west perkins street, suite 206 ukiah, california 95482 usa 707.462.6369 [office] 707.462.5015 [fax] www.mendocinohre.org - - - - - - - - "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 - - - - - - - - From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Tue May 1 16:56:41 2007 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (tuanta@iwayvietnam.com) Date: Tue May 1 15:23:28 2007 Subject: [participants] Expectations In-Reply-To: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070501/94cfb6c2/attachment.htm From ravindra at opensource.lk Tue May 1 05:04:25 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Tue May 1 16:01:10 2007 Subject: [participants] Expectations In-Reply-To: References: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <1177967065.4017.1.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > Hi Ravindra, > > I am Tuan. I also participated AS2 in track 2. > Nice to meet you again. yes , Tuan i remember you very well. btw about 5 other AS2 participants will attend OSHCA. cheers ravindra From ravindra at opensource.lk Tue May 1 05:14:57 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Tue May 1 16:11:39 2007 Subject: [participants] Expectations In-Reply-To: <34E61FCD-754A-4865-8E31-62F23CAA6ACA@mendocinohre.org> References: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <34E61FCD-754A-4865-8E31-62F23CAA6ACA@mendocinohre.org> Message-ID: <1177967697.4017.11.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > Later today the USA Centers for Disease Control will release a major > new contract opportunity for the development of syndromic > surveillance demonstration projects. its always good to have funded projects :) > I am hopeful that this > contract will break new ground in the development of further > functionality for public health reporting. A number of us in the > USA are working on new open source components to address the specific > real time biosurveillance functionality sought by the new CDC > specifications. are these specs USA specific? it is better to adhere to specs and if possible globally accepted specs/protocols. > I hope to be able to describe some of these efforts > in my presentation. I am looking forward to hear about these specs. I am sure i can learn a lot from your presentation. > In particular, I think the work of Dr. Bill > Lober and his grad students at the University of Washington deserves > special mention. They have built some fine tools. great! lets hope all tools can talk to each other and serve humanity. > Looking forward to productive discussions at the conference, I feel this will be one of the most productive conferences i will attend. thanks and regards ravindra http://r4vi.org ....... You fill a much-needed gap. From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Tue May 1 22:24:26 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Tue May 1 20:54:03 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference Program/Timetable Message-ID: <46374D9A.5060503@pc.jaring.my> Dear all presenters and trainers, Here are the program/Timetable for the 4-day conference, including the training sessions for new developers and the abstract file containing corrected abstracts received upto this morning (GMT+8). If you can't find your abstract there, it means we don't have them. The abstract numbers (the 2-digit number that follows the word "abstract" is in blue. If you have not submitted the abstracts, please do so immediately to conference@oshca.org. You had been receiving your abstracts for final checking of title and content. If you have not replied, please do so immediately. If those numbers appear in the column of your presentation and you have not received your file back for your final editing, it means that we don't have you abstract(s). Again please submit your abstract asap. The success of the conference depends on you all and I 'll appreciate your co-operation on this. Rgds, Molly -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: oshca2007_Program-AllDays-May1.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 61687 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070501/a30b758f/oshca2007_Program-AllDays-May1-0001.pdf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best wishes; Chris Richardson From ks.bhaskar at fnf.com Wed May 2 01:35:36 2007 From: ks.bhaskar at fnf.com (K.S. Bhaskar) Date: Wed May 2 00:02:20 2007 Subject: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> Message-ID: <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> Chris -- Are you arriving at Kuala Lumpur International Airport? If so, take the train to KL Sentral (cost is something like RM 35). From KL Sentral there are no specific instructions, but if I don't get alternative directions, I'll take a taxi from a regular taxi stand at the station. Watch out for unauthorized / unregulated "taxis" soliciting your business. -- Bhaskar rcr@rcresearch.us wrote, On 05/01/2007 01:23 PM: > Thank you for all of your help so far. The digests have been > informative. Is there a prescribed method of getting from the airport to > the hotel when we fly in? I am coming in a day early (Sunday) and will be > a bit more on my own than those who were able to make better arrangements. > If there is a good suggested means of accomplishing the transfer from the > airport to the hotel, I would love to become informed. Best wishes; > Chris Richardson > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > From lseldon at alum.mit.edu Wed May 2 06:33:46 2007 From: lseldon at alum.mit.edu (Lee Seldon) Date: Wed May 2 05:00:18 2007 Subject: [participants] Expectations In-Reply-To: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <4637C04A.1050301@alum.mit.edu> There will obviously be numerous interesting and relevant applications demonstrated at OSHCA. Will it be possible for participants to take home working versions, at least demonstration versions? I would like to show them to Master of Nursing students from Papua New Guinea and from the Middle East (and some from Australia). I am also interested in employment opportunities. Lee Seldon From tchur at optushome.com.au Wed May 2 06:56:05 2007 From: tchur at optushome.com.au (Tim Churches) Date: Wed May 2 05:22:50 2007 Subject: [participants] Expectations In-Reply-To: <4637C04A.1050301@alum.mit.edu> References: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <4637C04A.1050301@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4637C585.9030303@optushome.com.au> Lee Seldon wrote: > There will obviously be numerous interesting and relevant applications > demonstrated at OSHCA. > Will it be possible for participants to take home working versions, at > least demonstration versions? > I would like to show them to Master of Nursing students from Papua New > Guinea and from the Middle East (and some from Australia). I will have a beta version of demo CD-ROM for NetEpi available - bring (or buy) some blank CD-R discs so you can get a copy (I'm sure blank CD-ROMs are readily and cheaply available in Kuala Lumpur, so no need to bring any - but we may need to have some disc duplication sessions. Or there are probably disc duplication shops within walking distance of the conference hotel, so we can draw up a list of how many of who demo CD-ROMs to burn - demo CD-ROM disc images are typically 600MB or more, which makes them tricky and tedious to download, whereas actual software distributions are typically much smaller and are best just downloaded. Tim C From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 2 10:43:31 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 09:10:28 2007 Subject: [participants] Expectations In-Reply-To: <4637C04A.1050301@alum.mit.edu> References: <1177954147.3987.97.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <4637C04A.1050301@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4637FAD3.60303@pc.jaring.my> Yes. There will be plenty of opportunities for demos, including installation clinics etc. Anyone can bring in CDs, leaflets, phamphlets etc to be given away and we will provide the spaces and places for you to do that. Please email to conference@oshca.org or indicate in your reg form your requirements and we will do our best to accommodate your requests. However, if we are unable to do that we will inform you. Rgds, Molly Lee Seldon wrote: > There will obviously be numerous interesting and relevant applications > demonstrated at OSHCA. > Will it be possible for participants to take home working versions, at > least demonstration versions? > I would like to show them to Master of Nursing students from Papua New > Guinea and from the Middle East (and some from Australia). > > I am also interested in employment opportunities. > Lee Seldon > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > From tw_cook at comcast.net Wed May 2 11:10:54 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Wed May 2 09:37:37 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information Message-ID: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> All, Drinks are on your own at the Reception Dinner. I was unaware how expensive wine is in KL. Therefore if you drink wine (or even if you don't :-> ) you should consider bringing a bottle with you. Officially the limit on entry is one liter. However, the common knowledge has it that if you are declaring it for your own consumption then you can bring two liters without issue. This would be nice to have to share at the dinner. Cheers, Tim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070501/958b54c9/attachment.pgp From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 2 11:14:36 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 09:41:29 2007 Subject: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> Message-ID: <4638021C.7020606@pc.jaring.my> Chris, You shouldn't be on digest on this mailing list, if you want to get prompt informations. We don't have your con reg form filled up so we don't have your itinerary. This is what I receive from you in a private email. >Molly; > > There is a slight change in the schedule. I will be coming in one day >earlier. The flight I specified was full. It is the same arriving >flight but one day earlier. Any assistance will be appreciated. >Thank you for the opportunity to bring these projects and the community >to light for the attendees. It will be a marvelous meeting. The new >combined abstracts (two I think you wanted) should be ready this >evening when I get home from work. > > Best wishes; Chris > > > >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> Please proceed to purchase your tickets for your travel to KL. Please >>> note the support guidelines approved by the OSHCA Committee which was >>> posted to the participants list. Presenters from countries of high HDI >>> get reimbursed 80% of their travel cost as submmited in their cost >>> estimate form. >>> >>> Molly >>> Chris Richardson wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>> Let me know if you need the application in a different format. >>>>> >>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.1/765 - Release Date: 4/17/2007 >>>>> 5:20 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > > -- > Please let me repeat. Its no use sending flight info and hotel requirements in the body of emails or sending to me because such information would not be captured. Please fill in the conference reg form and send to conference@oshca.org Molly K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > Chris -- > > Are you arriving at Kuala Lumpur International Airport? If so, take > the train to KL Sentral (cost is something like RM 35). From KL > Sentral there are no specific instructions, but if I don't get > alternative directions, I'll take a taxi from a regular taxi stand at > the station. Watch out for unauthorized / unregulated "taxis" > soliciting your business. > > -- Bhaskar > > rcr@rcresearch.us wrote, On 05/01/2007 01:23 PM: > >> Thank you for all of your help so far. The digests have been >> informative. Is there a prescribed method of getting from the >> airport to >> the hotel when we fly in? I am coming in a day early (Sunday) and >> will be >> a bit more on my own than those who were able to make better >> arrangements. >> If there is a good suggested means of accomplishing the transfer >> from the >> airport to the hotel, I would love to become informed. Best wishes; >> Chris Richardson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> participants mailing list >> participants@oshca.org >> http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 2 11:17:33 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 09:44:28 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: HOTEL BOOKINGS FOR IOSN SOUTH ASIA In-Reply-To: <3c6717fa0705011042u2456d59agab347d6d9c6796d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c6717fa0704300402idd293e9i8c808edc6c258469@mail.gmail.com> <3c6717fa0705011042u2456d59agab347d6d9c6796d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <463802CD.3090208@pc.jaring.my> Please indicate this in the conf reg form. and return to conference@oshca.org Molly Francisco Sarmiento III wrote: > May we request for hotel bookings for SINGLE rooms for the following > individuals from UNDP IOSN-SOUTH ASIA: > > Check in: 07 May 2007 > Check out: 14 May 2007 > > > *M.R. RAJAGOPALAN* > > *SREEKANTH N.S.* > > *TUSHAR ABRAHAM MATHEW* > > > Thank you very much. > > > Kind regards, > > Francis > > -- > Francisco "Francis" E. Sarmiento III, MD > Project Support Officer > UNDP-International Open Source Network > ASEAN+3 Sub-Regional Node > > University of the Philippines Manila-National Telehealth Center > 3rd Floor I.T. Complex, Dietary Building, PGH Compound > Taft Avenue, 1000 MANILA, Philippines > Telefax no: +00 63 2 5256501 > Mobile: +63 915 8501111 > Website: www.iosn.net > > > -- > Francisco "Francis" E. Sarmiento III, MD > Project Support Officer > UNDP-International Open Source Network > ASEAN+3 Sub-Regional Node > > University of the Philippines Manila-National Telehealth Center > 3rd Floor I.T. Complex, Dietary Building, PGH Compound > Taft Avenue, 1000 MANILA, Philippines > Telefax no: +00 63 2 5256501 > Mobile: +63 915 8501111 > Website: www.iosn.net > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM > > From nandalalx at yahoo.com Wed May 2 11:33:52 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Wed May 2 10:00:20 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> Message-ID: <401035.35807.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Does Malaysia produce their own wine? Tim must be talking about the cost of French wines presumably? They can be expensive anywhere! What is your favorite wine, Tim? Nandalal --- Tim Cook wrote: > All, > > Drinks are on your own at the Reception Dinner. > > I was unaware how expensive wine is in KL. > > Therefore if you drink wine (or even if you don't > :-> ) you should > consider bringing a bottle with you. > > Officially the limit on entry is one liter. > However, the common > knowledge has it that if you are declaring it for > your own consumption > then you can bring two liters without issue. This > would be nice to have > to share at the dinner. > > Cheers, > > Tim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tw_cook at comcast.net Wed May 2 11:49:50 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Wed May 2 10:16:46 2007 Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION Re: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> Message-ID: <1178077790.3715.45.camel@oship> To All, FYI: I am here in KL now to help with logistics. Please, please be aware that sending a private email to Dr. Cheah may result in you not getting the information you need. She is currently receiving hundreds of emails per day and may miss your request. It is VERY important that you post your requests for information to this mailing list. There are multiple people monitoring the mailing list for these type of requests. Just to add a bit more detail about arrival at KLIA (KUL). The last train is at approx. 1:00am (the first is approx. 4:00am) so if you are arriving during that period (1:00am - 4:00am) you will need to take a taxi to the hotel. You should purchase your taxi coupon at the taxi desk on your right hand side as you exit the hallway from the Customs area. The taxi stand is out door #3 from the main lobby. The logistics team is in the process of arranging transportation from KLIA during late evenings but the requests must come in the conf reg forms only and sent to conference@oshca.org If you take the train to KL Sentral (the transportation hub) you will then need transportation to the hotel. You must purchase a taxi coupon from the taxi desk (for approx. RM 10) from KL Sentral to the hotel. Regards, Tim Cook On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 13:35 -0400, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > Chris -- > > Are you arriving at Kuala Lumpur International Airport? If so, take the > train to KL Sentral (cost is something like RM 35). From KL Sentral > there are no specific instructions, but if I don't get alternative > directions, I'll take a taxi from a regular taxi stand at the station. > Watch out for unauthorized / unregulated "taxis" soliciting your business. > > -- Bhaskar > > rcr@rcresearch.us wrote, On 05/01/2007 01:23 PM: > > Thank you for all of your help so far. The digests have been > > informative. Is there a prescribed method of getting from the airport to > > the hotel when we fly in? I am coming in a day early (Sunday) and will be > > a bit more on my own than those who were able to make better arrangements. > > If there is a good suggested means of accomplishing the transfer from the > > airport to the hotel, I would love to become informed. Best wishes; > > Chris Richardson > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants -- Timothy Cook, MSc Health Informatics Research Services http://home.comcast.net/~tw_cook/ 01-904-322-8582 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070501/c5f69d71/attachment-0001.pgp From tw_cook at comcast.net Wed May 2 11:52:16 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Wed May 2 10:18:48 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <401035.35807.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <401035.35807.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1178077936.3715.47.camel@oship> On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 20:33 -0700, Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: > Does Malaysia produce their own wine? Nope. > Tim must be talking about the cost of French wines presumably? > They can be expensive anywhere! Actually any wine here. > What is your favorite wine, Tim? > I like any decent Merlot or Shiraz. Thanks for asking. :-) Cheers, -- Tim Cook A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070501/12b67fb9/attachment.pgp From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 2 11:56:55 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 10:24:06 2007 Subject: [participants] Hello everyone In-Reply-To: References: <4636C84B.9040104@pc.jaring.my>, Message-ID: <46380C07.2010401@pc.jaring.my> All participants, including trainees, funders, trainers, organisers (ALL) need to complete the conf reg form and emailed to conference@oshca.org. Otherwise logistics don't know who are coming. We need to inform hotel on number of people attending the conference, attending the reception, attending the OSHCA dinner, attending the informal dinner and staying at the hotel, whether occupying the whole room or sharing, when arriving, when leaving, whether veg food needed etc. All these are captured in the reg form which go to different people to compile. The conf reg form is filled up regardless of who pays for what and how. We also do not wish to order for a dinner if you are not attending it. Rgds, Molly tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: > Hi Molly and Francis, > > Could you please confirm me that I do not need to update anything else > (in the other words, I would like to know that everything in my > registration has been already OK). > > Thanks and Kind regards, > > *TUAN, Truong Anh* > Director of Technologies, > iWay, > No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam > Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 > Fax: 844-514-8138 > Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com > Website: www.iwayvietnam.com > ------------------------- > Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn > > > -----Truong Anh Tuan/iWay wrote: ----- > > To: Molly Cheah > From: Truong Anh Tuan/iWay > Date: 05/01/2007 12:03PM > cc: OSHCA Conference , "Francisco Sarmiento > III" , asean3@iosn.net > Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone > > Hi Molly, > > I had communicated with Francis much before. > In fact, I have sent my participant form to Francis and > asean3@iosn.net just before sending this introduction mail. > > Please check this and let me know if I need update anything. Thank > you! > > Kind regards, > > *TUAN, Truong Anh * > Director of Technologies, > iWay, > No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam > Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 > Fax: 844-514-8138 > Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com > Website: www.iwayvietnam.com > ------------------------- > Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn > > > -----Molly Cheah wrote: ----- > > To: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com > From: Molly Cheah > Date: 05/01/2007 11:55AM > cc: OSHCA Conference > Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone > > Tuan, > > We've not received your conference registration form yet. Are > we missing it? > Molly > > tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > My name is Tuan, from Vietnam. > > > > I currently work as the Director of Technologies for iWay, > an IT firm > > based in Hanoi, Vietnam. > > Our main business fields are Web Design/Development, > e-Commerce and > > Linux/FOSS Support services using main technologies are > based on FOSS > > platforms including: LAMP stack (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) > and more. > > > > I go to the conference with a very initial idea of > developing an > > Online Drug store where people can search drugs, tablets, > pricing, > > experts' advice, news and more. Of course, it will be > developed on LAMP. > > I hope we will have got an interesting time and learn and > share lot of > > useful knowledge in the Conference. > > > > See you all again. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > *TUAN, Truong Anh* > > Director of Technologies, > > iWay, > > No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam > > Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 > > Fax: 844-514-8138 > > Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com < > mailto:tuanta@iwayvietnam.com > > > Website: www.iwayvietnam.com < http://www.iwayvietnam.com > > > > ------------------------- > > Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn > > < http://www.pathfinder.com.vn > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/781 - Release > Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM > > > > > > > > = > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > From hoangnv at netnam.vn Wed May 2 12:09:35 2007 From: hoangnv at netnam.vn (hoangnv) Date: Wed May 2 10:36:22 2007 Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION Re: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <1178077790.3715.45.camel@oship> References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> <1178077790.3715.45.camel@oship> Message-ID: <004701c78c6f$b24d0900$16e71b00$@vn> Hi all, I am HOANG Nguyen, from Vietnam. I've just subscribed to the mailing list, so it's too late, and maybe missing good news from the others :( By the way, thanks Mr. Tim Cook for your useful note. Thanks and best regards, -- HOANG --- NGUYEN VU HOANG Project & Development Department NetNam Corporation - Institute of Information Technology Tel: (844) 756 1885, Fax: 756 1888 Mobile: 09 02 09 1957 e-mail: hoangnv@netnam.vn --- NetNam is the first Internet Service Provider in Vietnam, who is providing services for thousands of clients, including networking, VoIP and security solutions. NetNam' slogan: From Development & For Development You can visit us at: http://home.netnam.vn -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Tim Cook Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:50 AM To: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION Re: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? To All, FYI: I am here in KL now to help with logistics. Please, please be aware that sending a private email to Dr. Cheah may result in you not getting the information you need. She is currently receiving hundreds of emails per day and may miss your request. It is VERY important that you post your requests for information to this mailing list. There are multiple people monitoring the mailing list for these type of requests. Just to add a bit more detail about arrival at KLIA (KUL). The last train is at approx. 1:00am (the first is approx. 4:00am) so if you are arriving during that period (1:00am - 4:00am) you will need to take a taxi to the hotel. You should purchase your taxi coupon at the taxi desk on your right hand side as you exit the hallway from the Customs area. The taxi stand is out door #3 from the main lobby. The logistics team is in the process of arranging transportation from KLIA during late evenings but the requests must come in the conf reg forms only and sent to conference@oshca.org If you take the train to KL Sentral (the transportation hub) you will then need transportation to the hotel. You must purchase a taxi coupon from the taxi desk (for approx. RM 10) from KL Sentral to the hotel. Regards, Tim Cook On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 13:35 -0400, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > Chris -- > > Are you arriving at Kuala Lumpur International Airport? If so, take > the train to KL Sentral (cost is something like RM 35). From KL > Sentral there are no specific instructions, but if I don't get > alternative directions, I'll take a taxi from a regular taxi stand at the station. > Watch out for unauthorized / unregulated "taxis" soliciting your business. > > -- Bhaskar > > rcr@rcresearch.us wrote, On 05/01/2007 01:23 PM: > > Thank you for all of your help so far. The digests have been > > informative. Is there a prescribed method of getting from the > > airport to the hotel when we fly in? I am coming in a day early > > (Sunday) and will be a bit more on my own than those who were able to make better arrangements. > > If there is a good suggested means of accomplishing the transfer from the > > airport to the hotel, I would love to become informed. Best wishes; > > Chris Richardson > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants -- Timothy Cook, MSc Health Informatics Research Services http://home.comcast.net/~tw_cook/ 01-904-322-8582 From haroonroedad at hotmail.com Wed May 2 12:14:49 2007 From: haroonroedad at hotmail.com (khan haroon) Date: Wed May 2 10:41:21 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <401035.35807.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070502/c2ad3b2a/attachment.html From nsh at pop.jaring.my Wed May 2 12:21:50 2007 From: nsh at pop.jaring.my (Nah Soo Hoe) Date: Wed May 2 10:47:01 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <401035.35807.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> Message-ID: <4638825E.13057.274C20@localhost> On 1 May 2007 at 20:33, Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: > Does Malaysia produce their own wine? Tim must be > talking about the cost of French wines presumably? > They can be expensive anywhere! Just to share some info on wine here in KL. Malaysia does not produce its own wine, not the grape-variety anyway; although there are some initiatives to try and produce alcoholic beverages from other types of local fruit these have not been successful. So wine is imported, mainly from Australia, Chile, Argentina, France and USA. Commercial-type wines is widely available in KL at outlets located in supermarkets and liquor stores while boutique-type wines may be available in some wine-specialy shops. Generally one can buy wine and other alocholic drinks till 9 pm in these places. I believe there are several outlets selling the stuff in the shopping complexes located near the Federal Hotel. Prices range from RM 30 upwards depending on the quality. To give you an idea of the price, an ordinary type of wine like Yellowtail will cost about RM 45-50 per bottle. Hope this helps :) -- Soo Hoe From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 2 12:26:27 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 10:53:25 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: CONFERENCE INQUIRIES In-Reply-To: <3c6717fa0705012055g18af79acm51055459949bfbcc@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c6717fa0705012055g18af79acm51055459949bfbcc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <463812F3.1050900@pc.jaring.my> Francisco Sarmiento III wrote: > Dear Sir or Madam: > > IOSN ASEAN+3 wishes to clarify the following: > > 1. How many dinners and/or mealsare OFFICIALLY COVERED by the > conference? All these are mentioned in the conf flyer and the conf reg form 2 tea/coffee breaks and lunch for 4 days. Reception and dinners on 7, 8 and 10 May Hotel room charge of MYR180 include breakfast for 2 persons irregardless of whether single, twin sharing or double. > > 2. For the workshop participants: > > a. Can we send a common listing (aside from the conference > registratons form) because almost all have the same flight schedules > and room requirements? We can make notations on this list. We've gone thru that before. If they're all on same flights, why not just copy and paste? I wish to clarify that we will not be responsible for omissions or incomplete list. Name the cof reg form as conference-reg_form_your name.odt or .doc This way we don't miss out > > b. Are payments for hotel bookings can be made straight to Federal > Hotel? or to OSHCA? We would prefer you to pay direct to hotel. This will be indicated when you check in at the hotel. We're liasing closely with the hotel. We're also monitoring this under the funding arrangements. Any disputes or differences, we can discuss calmly because mistakes can be made. Molly > > > We would appreciate your prompt reply. > > > With kind regards, > > Francis > From tw_cook at comcast.net Wed May 2 12:47:43 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Wed May 2 11:14:24 2007 Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION Re: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <004701c78c6f$b24d0900$16e71b00$@vn> References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> <1178077790.3715.45.camel@oship> <004701c78c6f$b24d0900$16e71b00$@vn> Message-ID: <1178081263.3715.55.camel@oship> On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 11:09 +0700, hoangnv wrote: > Hi all, > > I am HOANG Nguyen, from Vietnam. > > I've just subscribed to the mailing list, so it's too late, and maybe > missing good news from the others :( Actually no. The archives are located here: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/ You can review all the past emails. Cheers, Tim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070502/88e18ea1/attachment.pgp From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 2 12:57:16 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 11:24:38 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46381A2C.7020408@pc.jaring.my> Yes. We (Logistics Committee headed by Shaari from City Hall Kuala Lumpur) has made arrangements with a local tour agents. I have a stack of their tours etc. but its in hard copy and I believe they have yet to have a good web-site. Those that have good web-sites may be charging expensively. I'm trying to resolve this by getting them to be in the participants list. Its public holiday here today (Wesak Day) and I can't get hold of anyone, including Jason and Shaari) Either you do your own arrangements or wait for developments. I believe they will be stationed at the hotel as well to provide their services. Rgds, Molly khan haroon wrote: > Hi Guys > > I dont drink but I would be happyto oblige any one who does. I can > bring in a bottle. > > What about sight seeing program for everybody. is there one ? Maybe my > question is premature. > > Love to meet you all in KL > > regards > > Haroon > > Islamabd > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: /Nandalal Gunaratne / > Reply-To: /OSHCA Conference participants / > To: /tw_cook@comcast.net, OSHCA Conference participants > / > Subject: /Re: [participants] Reception (informal) Information/ > Date: /Tue, 1 May 2007 20:33:52 -0700 (PDT)/ > >Does Malaysia produce their own wine? Tim must be > >talking about the cost of French wines presumably? > >They can be expensive anywhere! > > > >What is your favorite wine, Tim? > > > >Nandalal > > > >--- Tim Cook wrote: > > > > > All, > > > > > > Drinks are on your own at the Reception Dinner. > > > > > > I was unaware how expensive wine is in KL. > > > > > > Therefore if you drink wine (or even if you don't > > > :-> ) you should > > > consider bringing a bottle with you. > > > > > > Officially the limit on entry is one liter. > > > However, the common > > > knowledge has it that if you are declaring it for > > > your own consumption > > > then you can bring two liters without issue. This > > > would be nice to have > > > to share at the dinner. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > participants mailing list > > > participants@oshca.org > > > > >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ > >participants mailing list > >participants@oshca.org > >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by > Experian. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > From haroonroedad at hotmail.com Wed May 2 13:01:06 2007 From: haroonroedad at hotmail.com (khan haroon) Date: Wed May 2 11:27:36 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <46381A2C.7020408@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070502/91c7337b/attachment.html From hoangnv at netnam.vn Wed May 2 13:02:45 2007 From: hoangnv at netnam.vn (hoangnv) Date: Wed May 2 11:29:28 2007 Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION Re: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <1178081263.3715.55.camel@oship> References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> <1178077790.3715.45.camel@oship> <004701c78c6f$b24d0900$16e71b00$@vn> <1178081263.3715.55.camel@oship> Message-ID: <006101c78c77$1f17d180$5d477480$@vn> Thanks Mr. Tim Cook so much ^^ -- HOANG --- NGUYEN VU HOANG Project & Development Department NetNam Corporation - Institute of Information Technology Tel: (844) 756 1885, Fax: 756 1888 Mobile: 09 02 09 1957 e-mail: hoangnv@netnam.vn --- NetNam is the first Internet Service Provider in Vietnam, who is providing services for thousands of clients, including networking, VoIP and security solutions. NetNam' slogan: From Development & For Development You can visit us at: http://home.netnam.vn -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Tim Cook Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:48 AM To: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: RE: IMPORTANT INFORMATION Re: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 11:09 +0700, hoangnv wrote: > Hi all, > > I am HOANG Nguyen, from Vietnam. > > I've just subscribed to the mailing list, so it's too late, and maybe > missing good news from the others :( Actually no. The archives are located here: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/ You can review all the past emails. Cheers, Tim From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 2 13:09:42 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 12:17:17 2007 Subject: [participants] Hello everyone In-Reply-To: <004c01c78c71$d76aeb10$8640c130$@vn> References: <4636C84B.9040104@pc.jaring.my>, <46380C07.2010401@pc.jaring.my> <004c01c78c71$d76aeb10$8640c130$@vn> Message-ID: <46381D16.90706@pc.jaring.my> Dear Hoang, The documents you sent are the internal requirements for the InWEnt training programme. I understand that all trainees had be requested to subscribe to the participants list and introduce yourself. That's great for networking. However, for the OSHCA Conference logistics purposes, please complete the conference registration form and return that completed form to conference@oshca.org immediately. When you return the form, rename the form to conference-reg_form_yourname.odt or .doc I am attaching the form again for those who don't have the form. Your cooperation is much appreciated. We will liase with Francis on other matters. I understand that some of you may be arriving at odd hours and we are making arrangement (esp when there are several arriviing at same time) to have a van to pick you up at LCCT or KLIA. But you need to indicate in the reg form the flight no, time of arr etc. Rgds, Molly hoangnv wrote: >Dear Sir/Madam, > >I've just received this email from the mailing list, and I think I should >resend the reference forms of my teams for the best results. I've already >sent the forms to Mr. Francis like Mr. Tuan, too. > >Pls check the attached file for the details, and pls contact with me if >having any problem, > >Thanks and best regards > >-- > >HOANG > >--- > >NGUYEN VU HOANG > >Project & Development Department > >NetNam Corporation - Institute of Information Technology > >Tel: (844) 756 1885, Fax: 756 1888 > >Mobile: 09 02 09 1957 > >e-mail: hoangnv@netnam.vn > >--- > >NetNam is the first Internet Service Provider in Vietnam, who is providing >services for thousands of clients, including networking, VoIP and security >solutions. > >NetNam' slogan: From Development & For Development > >You can visit us at: http://home.netnam.vn > > >-----Original Message----- >From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] >On Behalf Of Molly Cheah >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:57 AM >To: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >Cc: OSHCA Conference participants; asean3@iosn.net >Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone > >All participants, including trainees, funders, trainers, organisers >(ALL) need to complete the conf reg form and emailed to >conference@oshca.org. Otherwise logistics don't know who are coming. > >We need to inform hotel on number of people attending the conference, >attending the reception, attending the OSHCA dinner, attending the >informal dinner and staying at the hotel, whether occupying the whole >room or sharing, when arriving, when leaving, whether veg food needed >etc. All these are captured in the reg form which go to different people >to compile. > >The conf reg form is filled up regardless of who pays for what and how. >We also do not wish to order for a dinner if you are not attending it. > >Rgds, >Molly >tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: > > > >>Hi Molly and Francis, >> >>Could you please confirm me that I do not need to update anything else >>(in the other words, I would like to know that everything in my >>registration has been already OK). >> >>Thanks and Kind regards, >> >>*TUAN, Truong Anh* >>Director of Technologies, >>iWay, >>No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >>Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >>Fax: 844-514-8138 >>Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >>Website: www.iwayvietnam.com >>------------------------- >>Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >> >> >>-----Truong Anh Tuan/iWay wrote: ----- >> >> To: Molly Cheah >> From: Truong Anh Tuan/iWay >> Date: 05/01/2007 12:03PM >> cc: OSHCA Conference , "Francisco Sarmiento >> III" , asean3@iosn.net >> Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone >> >> Hi Molly, >> >> I had communicated with Francis much before. >> In fact, I have sent my participant form to Francis and >> asean3@iosn.net just before sending this introduction mail. >> >> Please check this and let me know if I need update anything. Thank >> you! >> >> Kind regards, >> >> *TUAN, Truong Anh * >> Director of Technologies, >> iWay, >> No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >> Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >> Fax: 844-514-8138 >> Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >> Website: www.iwayvietnam.com >> ------------------------- >> Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >> >> >> -----Molly Cheah wrote: ----- >> >> To: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >> From: Molly Cheah >> Date: 05/01/2007 11:55AM >> cc: OSHCA Conference >> Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone >> >> Tuan, >> >> We've not received your conference registration form yet. Are >> we missing it? >> Molly >> >> tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: >> >> > Hello everyone, >> > >> > My name is Tuan, from Vietnam. >> > >> > I currently work as the Director of Technologies for iWay, >> an IT firm >> > based in Hanoi, Vietnam. >> > Our main business fields are Web Design/Development, >> e-Commerce and >> > Linux/FOSS Support services using main technologies are >> based on FOSS >> > platforms including: LAMP stack (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) >> and more. >> > >> > I go to the conference with a very initial idea of >> developing an >> > Online Drug store where people can search drugs, tablets, >> pricing, >> > experts' advice, news and more. Of course, it will be >> developed on LAMP. >> > I hope we will have got an interesting time and learn and >> share lot of >> > useful knowledge in the Conference. >> > >> > See you all again. >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > >> > *TUAN, Truong Anh* >> > Director of Technologies, >> > iWay, >> > No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >> > Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >> > Fax: 844-514-8138 >> > Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com < >> mailto:tuanta@iwayvietnam.com > >> > Website: www.iwayvietnam.com < http://www.iwayvietnam.com >> > >> > ------------------------- >> > Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >> > < http://www.pathfinder.com.vn > >> > >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >participants mailing list >> > participants@oshca.org >> > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> >> > >> > >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >No virus found in this incoming message. >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/781 - Release >> Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM >> > >> > >> >> >> >>= >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 >> >> >2:57 PM > > >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: conference-reg_form-002.doc Type: application/msword Size: 83456 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070502/6bbc9713/conference-reg_form-002-0001.doc From wross at mendocinohre.org Wed May 2 15:07:57 2007 From: wross at mendocinohre.org (Will Ross) Date: Wed May 2 13:34:46 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> Message-ID: On May 1, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > All, > > Drinks are on your own at the Reception Dinner. > > I was unaware how expensive wine is in KL. > > Therefore if you drink wine (or even if you don't :-> ) you should > consider bringing a bottle with you. tim, as i live in california wine country, i plan to bring a nice bottle. our cool north pacific coastal appellation specializes in alsatian varietals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace_wine shiraz/syrah is rare around here, and our local cabernet sauvignon is generally coarse and tough to drink, but we make some decent bottles of pinot noir, gewurtraminer and reisling. i'll grab something on my way out of the valley. [wr] - - - - - - - - > > Officially the limit on entry is one liter. However, the common > knowledge has it that if you are declaring it for your own consumption > then you can bring two liters without issue. This would be nice to > have > to share at the dinner. > > Cheers, > > Tim > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants [wr] - - - - - - - - will ross chief information officer mendocino health records exchange 216 west perkins street, suite 206 ukiah, california 95482 usa 707.462.6369 [office] 707.462.5015 [fax] www.mendocinohre.org - - - - - - - - "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 - - - - - - - - From tw_cook at comcast.net Wed May 2 15:31:25 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Wed May 2 13:58:05 2007 Subject: IMPORTANT INFORMATION Re: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> <1178077790.3715.45.camel@oship> Message-ID: <1178091085.3715.67.camel@oship> Hi Will, I look forward to seeing you again and appreciate you bringing a nice bottle of wine. However, if you re-read the information I sent out (below). I asked everyone to please post their requests for information to the mailing list so that the correct person will pick it up. It happens that right now I am not working on registration forms but some one will get back to you on it soon now that I have copied this t the list. Cheers, Tim On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 00:08 -0700, Will Ross wrote: > tim, > > just checking -- is my conference registration form done? i'll be > arriving monday afternoon, and am looking forward to dinner with > everyone. > > [wr] > > - - - - - - - - > > On May 1, 2007, at 8:49 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > > > To All, > > > > FYI: I am here in KL now to help with logistics. Please, please be > > aware that sending a private email to Dr. Cheah may result in you not > > getting the information you need. She is currently receiving hundreds > > of emails per day and may miss your request. > > > > It is VERY important that you post your requests for information to > > this > > mailing list. There are multiple people monitoring the mailing > > list for > > these type of requests. > > > > > > Just to add a bit more detail about arrival at KLIA (KUL). > > > > The last train is at approx. 1:00am (the first is approx. 4:00am) > > so if > > you are arriving during that period (1:00am - 4:00am) you will need to > > take a taxi to the hotel. You should purchase your taxi coupon at the > > taxi desk on your right hand side as you exit the hallway from the > > Customs area. The taxi stand is out door #3 from the main lobby. The > > logistics team is in the process of arranging transportation from KLIA > > during late evenings but the requests must come in the conf reg forms > > only and sent to conference@oshca.org > > > > If you take the train to KL Sentral (the transportation hub) you will > > then need transportation to the hotel. You must purchase a taxi coupon > > from the taxi desk (for approx. RM 10) from KL Sentral to the hotel. > > > > Regards, > > Tim Cook > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 13:35 -0400, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > >> Chris -- > >> > >> Are you arriving at Kuala Lumpur International Airport? If so, > >> take the > >> train to KL Sentral (cost is something like RM 35). From KL Sentral > >> there are no specific instructions, but if I don't get alternative > >> directions, I'll take a taxi from a regular taxi stand at the > >> station. > >> Watch out for unauthorized / unregulated "taxis" soliciting your > >> business. > >> > >> -- Bhaskar > >> > >> rcr@rcresearch.us wrote, On 05/01/2007 01:23 PM: > >>> Thank you for all of your help so far. The digests have been > >>> informative. Is there a prescribed method of getting from the > >>> airport to > >>> the hotel when we fly in? I am coming in a day early (Sunday) > >>> and will be > >>> a bit more on my own than those who were able to make better > >>> arrangements. > >>> If there is a good suggested means of accomplishing the transfer > >>> from the > >>> airport to the hotel, I would love to become informed. Best > >>> wishes; > >>> Chris Richardson > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> participants mailing list > >>> participants@oshca.org > >>> http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> participants mailing list > >> participants@oshca.org > >> http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > -- > > Timothy Cook, MSc > > Health Informatics Research Services > > http://home.comcast.net/~tw_cook/ > > 01-904-322-8582 > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > [wr] > > - - - - - - - - > > will ross > chief information officer > mendocino health records exchange > 216 west perkins street, suite 206 > ukiah, california 95482 usa > 707.462.6369 [office] > 707.462.5015 [fax] > www.mendocinohre.org > > - - - - - - - - > > "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." > Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 > > - - - - - - - - > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070502/c1714c10/attachment.pgp From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 2 15:44:17 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 14:11:25 2007 Subject: [participants] Hello everyone In-Reply-To: <006f01c78c80$903f5280$b0bdf780$@vn> References: <4636C84B.9040104@pc.jaring.my>, <46380C07.2010401@pc.jaring.my> <004c01c78c71$d76aeb10$8640c130$@vn> <46381D16.90706@pc.jaring.my> <006f01c78c80$903f5280$b0bdf780$@vn> Message-ID: <46384151.1020300@pc.jaring.my> Hoang, This is extracted from your form. Are you staying with a friend after arrival to checking in at hotel? *Hotel Room Required: **YES** If Yes, Date of Check-in/Departure: **07 MAY 2007 / 12 MAY 2007 * Arrival from: 06 May 13:20 X all participants, please check your forms to ensure correctness. Thanks, Molly hoangnv wrote: >Dear Dr. Molly Cheah, > >I've just sent a form like this to Mr. Francis, and I think it is the same, >cause the details is the same with the conference-reg_form, so I send you >this form at the attached file. > >I am going talk to my co-worker to send reg_form ASAP. > >Pls contact with me if having any problem, > >Thanks and best regards, > >-- > >HOANG > >--- > >NGUYEN VU HOANG > >Project & Development Department > >NetNam Corporation - Institute of Information Technology > >Tel: (844) 756 1885, Fax: 756 1888 > >Mobile: 09 02 09 1957 > >e-mail: hoangnv@netnam.vn > >--- > >NetNam is the first Internet Service Provider in Vietnam, who is providing >services for thousands of clients, including networking, VoIP and security >solutions. > >NetNam' slogan: From Development & For Development > >You can visit us at: http://home.netnam.vn > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Molly Cheah [mailto:drcheah@pc.jaring.my] >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:10 PM >To: hoangnv >Cc: conference@oshca.org; OSHCA Conference participants >Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone > >Dear Hoang, > >The documents you sent are the internal requirements for the InWEnt training >programme. > >I understand that all trainees had be requested to subscribe to the >participants list and introduce yourself. That's great for networking. > >However, for the OSHCA Conference logistics purposes, please complete the >conference registration form and return that completed form to >conference@oshca.org immediately. When you return the form, rename the form >to conference-reg_form_yourname.odt or .doc > >I am attaching the form again for those who don't have the form. Your >cooperation is much appreciated. > >We will liase with Francis on other matters. > >I understand that some of you may be arriving at odd hours and we are making >arrangement (esp when there are several arriviing at same time) to have a >van to pick you up at LCCT or KLIA. But you need to indicate in the reg form >the flight no, time of arr etc. > >Rgds, >Molly >hoangnv wrote: > > > >>Dear Sir/Madam, >> >>I've just received this email from the mailing list, and I think I >>should resend the reference forms of my teams for the best results. >>I've already sent the forms to Mr. Francis like Mr. Tuan, too. >> >>Pls check the attached file for the details, and pls contact with me if >>having any problem, >> >>Thanks and best regards >> >>-- >> >>HOANG >> >>--- >> >>NGUYEN VU HOANG >> >>Project & Development Department >> >>NetNam Corporation - Institute of Information Technology >> >>Tel: (844) 756 1885, Fax: 756 1888 >> >>Mobile: 09 02 09 1957 >> >>e-mail: hoangnv@netnam.vn >> >>--- >> >>NetNam is the first Internet Service Provider in Vietnam, who is >>providing services for thousands of clients, including networking, VoIP >>and security solutions. >> >>NetNam' slogan: From Development & For Development >> >>You can visit us at: http://home.netnam.vn >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: participants-bounces@oshca.org >>[mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] >>On Behalf Of Molly Cheah >>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:57 AM >>To: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >>Cc: OSHCA Conference participants; asean3@iosn.net >>Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone >> >>All participants, including trainees, funders, trainers, organisers >>(ALL) need to complete the conf reg form and emailed to >>conference@oshca.org. Otherwise logistics don't know who are coming. >> >>We need to inform hotel on number of people attending the conference, >>attending the reception, attending the OSHCA dinner, attending the >>informal dinner and staying at the hotel, whether occupying the whole >>room or sharing, when arriving, when leaving, whether veg food needed >>etc. All these are captured in the reg form which go to different >>people to compile. >> >>The conf reg form is filled up regardless of who pays for what and how. >>We also do not wish to order for a dinner if you are not attending it. >> >>Rgds, >>Molly >>tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Hi Molly and Francis, >>> >>>Could you please confirm me that I do not need to update anything else >>>(in the other words, I would like to know that everything in my >>>registration has been already OK). >>> >>>Thanks and Kind regards, >>> >>>*TUAN, Truong Anh* >>>Director of Technologies, >>>iWay, >>>No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >>>Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >>>Fax: 844-514-8138 >>>Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >>>Website: www.iwayvietnam.com >>>------------------------- >>>Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >>> >>> >>>-----Truong Anh Tuan/iWay wrote: ----- >>> >>> To: Molly Cheah >>> From: Truong Anh Tuan/iWay >>> Date: 05/01/2007 12:03PM >>> cc: OSHCA Conference , "Francisco Sarmiento >>> III" , asean3@iosn.net >>> Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone >>> >>> Hi Molly, >>> >>> I had communicated with Francis much before. >>> In fact, I have sent my participant form to Francis and >>> asean3@iosn.net just before sending this introduction mail. >>> >>> Please check this and let me know if I need update anything. Thank >>> you! >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> *TUAN, Truong Anh * >>> Director of Technologies, >>> iWay, >>> No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >>> Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >>> Fax: 844-514-8138 >>> Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >>> Website: www.iwayvietnam.com >>> ------------------------- >>> Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >>> >>> >>> -----Molly Cheah wrote: ----- >>> >>> To: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >>> From: Molly Cheah >>> Date: 05/01/2007 11:55AM >>> cc: OSHCA Conference >>> Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone >>> >>> Tuan, >>> >>> We've not received your conference registration form yet. Are >>> we missing it? >>> Molly >>> >>> tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: >>> >>> > Hello everyone, >>> > >>> > My name is Tuan, from Vietnam. >>> > >>> > I currently work as the Director of Technologies for iWay, >>> an IT firm >>> > based in Hanoi, Vietnam. >>> > Our main business fields are Web Design/Development, >>> e-Commerce and >>> > Linux/FOSS Support services using main technologies are >>> based on FOSS >>> > platforms including: LAMP stack (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) >>> and more. >>> > >>> > I go to the conference with a very initial idea of >>> developing an >>> > Online Drug store where people can search drugs, tablets, >>> pricing, >>> > experts' advice, news and more. Of course, it will be >>> developed on LAMP. >>> > I hope we will have got an interesting time and learn and >>> share lot of >>> > useful knowledge in the Conference. >>> > >>> > See you all again. >>> > >>> > Kind regards, >>> > >>> > *TUAN, Truong Anh* >>> > Director of Technologies, >>> > iWay, >>> > No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >>> > Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >>> > Fax: 844-514-8138 >>> > Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com < >>> mailto:tuanta@iwayvietnam.com > >>> > Website: www.iwayvietnam.com < http://www.iwayvietnam.com >>> > >>> > ------------------------- >>> > Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >>> > < http://www.pathfinder.com.vn > >>> > >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >participants mailing list >>> > participants@oshca.org >>> > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> >No virus found in this incoming message. >>> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/781 - Release >>> Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>>= >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>-- >>> >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: >>>5/1/2007 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>2:57 PM >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>participants mailing list >>participants@oshca.org >>http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 >>2:57 PM >> >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > From tanboonteck at gmail.com Wed May 2 16:53:31 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Wed May 2 15:19:58 2007 Subject: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> Message-ID: FYI: TAXI: Do NOT try to get taxis from airports and KL Sentral terminal, without using the coupon system. As was mentioned earlier, there is the Express Rail Link http://www.kliaekspres.com (RM35) from the KLIA (Kuala Lumpur International Airport) and buses (about RM13) from the LCCT (Low Cost Carrier Terminal), depending on which airline you are taking, to go to KL Sentral terminal. Do note that these services are not running 24 hours and you would either have to take a taxi directly from the airport to the hotel (USE THE COUPON SYSTEM), or wait for the earliest service, if you touch down past midnight. At KL Sentral, you need to buy a RM10 COUPON from the taxi COUNTER, to get to the Federal Hotel. The KL Taxi Association will be putting up a banner to greet the participants and to guide them to get the coupons. If you are more adventurous, you can take the Monorail from KL Sentral to the hotel, but you will have to do some walking. :-) Remember, use the coupons for taxis from terminals. CITY TOUR: For those interested in the city tour, KL has available Hop-on-Hop-off buses touring the city in a circuit.You pay one time for the whole day, and you can use the ticket multiple times within the day. The buses are supposed to also come with tourist guides to explain the various tourists spot to the passengers. MALAYSIA TOUR: Yaji Travel (www.yajitravel.com) has partnered us to assist you in getting to know Malaysia better. 2007 is designated as Visit Malaysia Year in conjuction with our 50th Birthday as an independent nation and the Ministry of Tourism has planned numerous activities to please the tourists. FOOD: As to the availability of food - it is not a problem. We have cuisines from various cultures - Malay, Chinese, Indian, Western, Vegetarian and also from other countries such as Japanese, Koreans, etc. at affordable prices. There are food outlets and food stalls that runs 24 hours or caters to the night crowd. HOTEL: The Federal Hotel is giving a special room rate of MYR180 to the OSHCA Conference participants. If you wish to stay in cheaper hotels, there are numerous hotels within walking distance from Federal Hotel. For registered participants of OSHCA, the following will be provided: Dinner: May 7, 8 and 10 Lunch: May 8-11 Breakfast: Federal Hotel rooms includes breakfast. Regards, Jason Tan Logistics Committee On 5/2/07, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > Chris -- > > Are you arriving at Kuala Lumpur International Airport? If so, take the > train to KL Sentral (cost is something like RM 35). From KL Sentral > there are no specific instructions, but if I don't get alternative > directions, I'll take a taxi from a regular taxi stand at the station. > Watch out for unauthorized / unregulated "taxis" soliciting your business. > > -- Bhaskar > > rcr@rcresearch.us wrote, On 05/01/2007 01:23 PM: > > Thank you for all of your help so far. The digests have been > > informative. Is there a prescribed method of getting from the airport to > > the hotel when we fly in? I am coming in a day early (Sunday) and will be > > a bit more on my own than those who were able to make better arrangements. > > If there is a good suggested means of accomplishing the transfer from the > > airport to the hotel, I would love to become informed. Best wishes; > > Chris Richardson > > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From trantrunghieu at netnam.vn Wed May 2 15:10:40 2007 From: trantrunghieu at netnam.vn (Tran Trung Hieu) Date: Wed May 2 15:27:01 2007 Subject: [participants] Hello everyone In-Reply-To: <006f01c78c80$903f5280$b0bdf780$@vn> Message-ID: <200705020700.l4270fsU019308@auth.netnam.vn> Dear Dr. Molly Cheah et al, As my co-worker, Mr Hoang Nguyen Vu, I have already sent my forms to Mr. Fransis. Now I commit them to the list of participants for introducing myself. Thanks and regards, Tran Trung Hieu R&D - NetN@m Corp - IOIT Mobile: +84-0915.16.46.26 Office: +84-4-7561885 Email: trantrunghieu@netnam.vn -----Original Message----- From: hoangnv [mailto:hoangnv@netnam.vn] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:10 PM To: 'Molly Cheah' Cc: conference@oshca.org; 'OSHCA Conference participants' Subject: RE: [participants] Hello everyone Dear Dr. Molly Cheah, I've just sent a form like this to Mr. Francis, and I think it is the same, cause the details is the same with the conference-reg_form, so I send you this form at the attached file. I am going talk to my co-worker to send reg_form ASAP. Pls contact with me if having any problem, Thanks and best regards, -- HOANG --- NGUYEN VU HOANG Project & Development Department NetNam Corporation - Institute of Information Technology Tel: (844) 756 1885, Fax: 756 1888 Mobile: 09 02 09 1957 e-mail: hoangnv@netnam.vn --- NetNam is the first Internet Service Provider in Vietnam, who is providing services for thousands of clients, including networking, VoIP and security solutions. NetNam' slogan: From Development & For Development You can visit us at: http://home.netnam.vn -----Original Message----- From: Molly Cheah [mailto:drcheah@pc.jaring.my] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:10 PM To: hoangnv Cc: conference@oshca.org; OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone Dear Hoang, The documents you sent are the internal requirements for the InWEnt training programme. I understand that all trainees had be requested to subscribe to the participants list and introduce yourself. That's great for networking. However, for the OSHCA Conference logistics purposes, please complete the conference registration form and return that completed form to conference@oshca.org immediately. When you return the form, rename the form to conference-reg_form_yourname.odt or .doc I am attaching the form again for those who don't have the form. Your cooperation is much appreciated. We will liase with Francis on other matters. I understand that some of you may be arriving at odd hours and we are making arrangement (esp when there are several arriviing at same time) to have a van to pick you up at LCCT or KLIA. But you need to indicate in the reg form the flight no, time of arr etc. Rgds, Molly hoangnv wrote: >Dear Sir/Madam, > >I've just received this email from the mailing list, and I think I >should resend the reference forms of my teams for the best results. >I've already sent the forms to Mr. Francis like Mr. Tuan, too. > >Pls check the attached file for the details, and pls contact with me if >having any problem, > >Thanks and best regards > >-- > >HOANG > >--- > >NGUYEN VU HOANG > >Project & Development Department > >NetNam Corporation - Institute of Information Technology > >Tel: (844) 756 1885, Fax: 756 1888 > >Mobile: 09 02 09 1957 > >e-mail: hoangnv@netnam.vn > >--- > >NetNam is the first Internet Service Provider in Vietnam, who is >providing services for thousands of clients, including networking, VoIP >and security solutions. > >NetNam' slogan: From Development & For Development > >You can visit us at: http://home.netnam.vn > > >-----Original Message----- >From: participants-bounces@oshca.org >[mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] >On Behalf Of Molly Cheah >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:57 AM >To: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >Cc: OSHCA Conference participants; asean3@iosn.net >Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone > >All participants, including trainees, funders, trainers, organisers >(ALL) need to complete the conf reg form and emailed to >conference@oshca.org. Otherwise logistics don't know who are coming. > >We need to inform hotel on number of people attending the conference, >attending the reception, attending the OSHCA dinner, attending the >informal dinner and staying at the hotel, whether occupying the whole >room or sharing, when arriving, when leaving, whether veg food needed >etc. All these are captured in the reg form which go to different >people to compile. > >The conf reg form is filled up regardless of who pays for what and how. >We also do not wish to order for a dinner if you are not attending it. > >Rgds, >Molly >tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: > > > >>Hi Molly and Francis, >> >>Could you please confirm me that I do not need to update anything else >>(in the other words, I would like to know that everything in my >>registration has been already OK). >> >>Thanks and Kind regards, >> >>*TUAN, Truong Anh* >>Director of Technologies, >>iWay, >>No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >>Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >>Fax: 844-514-8138 >>Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >>Website: www.iwayvietnam.com >>------------------------- >>Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >> >> >>-----Truong Anh Tuan/iWay wrote: ----- >> >> To: Molly Cheah >> From: Truong Anh Tuan/iWay >> Date: 05/01/2007 12:03PM >> cc: OSHCA Conference , "Francisco Sarmiento >> III" , asean3@iosn.net >> Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone >> >> Hi Molly, >> >> I had communicated with Francis much before. >> In fact, I have sent my participant form to Francis and >> asean3@iosn.net just before sending this introduction mail. >> >> Please check this and let me know if I need update anything. Thank >> you! >> >> Kind regards, >> >> *TUAN, Truong Anh * >> Director of Technologies, >> iWay, >> No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >> Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >> Fax: 844-514-8138 >> Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >> Website: www.iwayvietnam.com >> ------------------------- >> Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >> >> >> -----Molly Cheah wrote: ----- >> >> To: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >> From: Molly Cheah >> Date: 05/01/2007 11:55AM >> cc: OSHCA Conference >> Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone >> >> Tuan, >> >> We've not received your conference registration form yet. Are >> we missing it? >> Molly >> >> tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: >> >> > Hello everyone, >> > >> > My name is Tuan, from Vietnam. >> > >> > I currently work as the Director of Technologies for iWay, >> an IT firm >> > based in Hanoi, Vietnam. >> > Our main business fields are Web Design/Development, >> e-Commerce and >> > Linux/FOSS Support services using main technologies are >> based on FOSS >> > platforms including: LAMP stack (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) >> and more. >> > >> > I go to the conference with a very initial idea of >> developing an >> > Online Drug store where people can search drugs, tablets, >> pricing, >> > experts' advice, news and more. Of course, it will be >> developed on LAMP. >> > I hope we will have got an interesting time and learn and >> share lot of >> > useful knowledge in the Conference. >> > >> > See you all again. >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > >> > *TUAN, Truong Anh* >> > Director of Technologies, >> > iWay, >> > No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >> > Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >> > Fax: 844-514-8138 >> > Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com < >> mailto:tuanta@iwayvietnam.com > >> > Website: www.iwayvietnam.com < http://www.iwayvietnam.com >> > >> > ------------------------- >> > Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >> > < http://www.pathfinder.com.vn > >> > >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >participants mailing list >> > participants@oshca.org >> > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> >> > >> > >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >No virus found in this incoming message. >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/781 - Release >> Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM >> > >> > >> >> >> >>= >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>-- >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: >>5/1/2007 >> >> >2:57 PM > > >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 >2:57 PM > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pls contact with me if having any problem, Thanks and best regards, -- HOANG --- NGUYEN VU HOANG Project & Development Department NetNam Corporation - Institute of Information Technology Tel: (844) 756 1885, Fax: 756 1888 Mobile: 09 02 09 1957 e-mail: hoangnv@netnam.vn --- NetNam is the first Internet Service Provider in Vietnam, who is providing services for thousands of clients, including networking, VoIP and security solutions. NetNam' slogan: From Development & For Development You can visit us at: http://home.netnam.vn -----Original Message----- From: Molly Cheah [mailto:drcheah@pc.jaring.my] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:10 PM To: hoangnv Cc: conference@oshca.org; OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone Dear Hoang, The documents you sent are the internal requirements for the InWEnt training programme. I understand that all trainees had be requested to subscribe to the participants list and introduce yourself. That's great for networking. However, for the OSHCA Conference logistics purposes, please complete the conference registration form and return that completed form to conference@oshca.org immediately. When you return the form, rename the form to conference-reg_form_yourname.odt or .doc I am attaching the form again for those who don't have the form. Your cooperation is much appreciated. We will liase with Francis on other matters. I understand that some of you may be arriving at odd hours and we are making arrangement (esp when there are several arriviing at same time) to have a van to pick you up at LCCT or KLIA. But you need to indicate in the reg form the flight no, time of arr etc. Rgds, Molly hoangnv wrote: >Dear Sir/Madam, > >I've just received this email from the mailing list, and I think I >should resend the reference forms of my teams for the best results. >I've already sent the forms to Mr. Francis like Mr. Tuan, too. > >Pls check the attached file for the details, and pls contact with me if >having any problem, > >Thanks and best regards > >-- > >HOANG > >--- > >NGUYEN VU HOANG > >Project & Development Department > >NetNam Corporation - Institute of Information Technology > >Tel: (844) 756 1885, Fax: 756 1888 > >Mobile: 09 02 09 1957 > >e-mail: hoangnv@netnam.vn > >--- > >NetNam is the first Internet Service Provider in Vietnam, who is >providing services for thousands of clients, including networking, VoIP >and security solutions. > >NetNam' slogan: From Development & For Development > >You can visit us at: http://home.netnam.vn > > >-----Original Message----- >From: participants-bounces@oshca.org >[mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] >On Behalf Of Molly Cheah >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:57 AM >To: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >Cc: OSHCA Conference participants; asean3@iosn.net >Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone > >All participants, including trainees, funders, trainers, organisers >(ALL) need to complete the conf reg form and emailed to >conference@oshca.org. Otherwise logistics don't know who are coming. > >We need to inform hotel on number of people attending the conference, >attending the reception, attending the OSHCA dinner, attending the >informal dinner and staying at the hotel, whether occupying the whole >room or sharing, when arriving, when leaving, whether veg food needed >etc. All these are captured in the reg form which go to different >people to compile. > >The conf reg form is filled up regardless of who pays for what and how. >We also do not wish to order for a dinner if you are not attending it. > >Rgds, >Molly >tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: > > > >>Hi Molly and Francis, >> >>Could you please confirm me that I do not need to update anything else >>(in the other words, I would like to know that everything in my >>registration has been already OK). >> >>Thanks and Kind regards, >> >>*TUAN, Truong Anh* >>Director of Technologies, >>iWay, >>No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >>Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >>Fax: 844-514-8138 >>Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >>Website: www.iwayvietnam.com >>------------------------- >>Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >> >> >>-----Truong Anh Tuan/iWay wrote: ----- >> >> To: Molly Cheah >> From: Truong Anh Tuan/iWay >> Date: 05/01/2007 12:03PM >> cc: OSHCA Conference , "Francisco Sarmiento >> III" , asean3@iosn.net >> Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone >> >> Hi Molly, >> >> I had communicated with Francis much before. >> In fact, I have sent my participant form to Francis and >> asean3@iosn.net just before sending this introduction mail. >> >> Please check this and let me know if I need update anything. Thank >> you! >> >> Kind regards, >> >> *TUAN, Truong Anh * >> Director of Technologies, >> iWay, >> No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >> Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >> Fax: 844-514-8138 >> Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >> Website: www.iwayvietnam.com >> ------------------------- >> Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >> >> >> -----Molly Cheah wrote: ----- >> >> To: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com >> From: Molly Cheah >> Date: 05/01/2007 11:55AM >> cc: OSHCA Conference >> Subject: Re: [participants] Hello everyone >> >> Tuan, >> >> We've not received your conference registration form yet. Are >> we missing it? >> Molly >> >> tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: >> >> > Hello everyone, >> > >> > My name is Tuan, from Vietnam. >> > >> > I currently work as the Director of Technologies for iWay, >> an IT firm >> > based in Hanoi, Vietnam. >> > Our main business fields are Web Design/Development, >> e-Commerce and >> > Linux/FOSS Support services using main technologies are >> based on FOSS >> > platforms including: LAMP stack (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) >> and more. >> > >> > I go to the conference with a very initial idea of >> developing an >> > Online Drug store where people can search drugs, tablets, >> pricing, >> > experts' advice, news and more. Of course, it will be >> developed on LAMP. >> > I hope we will have got an interesting time and learn and >> share lot of >> > useful knowledge in the Conference. >> > >> > See you all again. >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > >> > *TUAN, Truong Anh* >> > Director of Technologies, >> > iWay, >> > No 57, Lane 16, Hoang Cau street, Hanoi, Vietnam >> > Phone: 844-514-8140 Handphone: 8490-323-7001 >> > Fax: 844-514-8138 >> > Email: tuanta@iwayvietnam.com < >> mailto:tuanta@iwayvietnam.com > >> > Website: www.iwayvietnam.com < http://www.iwayvietnam.com >> > >> > ------------------------- >> > Please visit Vietnam travel reviews at www.pathfinder.com.vn >> > < http://www.pathfinder.com.vn > >> > >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >participants mailing list >> > participants@oshca.org >> > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> >> > >> > >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >No virus found in this incoming message. >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/781 - Release >> Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM >> > >> > >> >> >> >>= >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>-- >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: >>5/1/2007 >> >> >2:57 PM > > >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 >2:57 PM > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Or will this be consumed in rooms? alvin On 5/1/07, Tim Cook wrote: > > All, > > Drinks are on your own at the Reception Dinner. > > I was unaware how expensive wine is in KL. > > Therefore if you drink wine (or even if you don't :-> ) you should > consider bringing a bottle with you. > > Officially the limit on entry is one liter. However, the common > knowledge has it that if you are declaring it for your own consumption > then you can bring two liters without issue. This would be nice to have > to share at the dinner. > > Cheers, > > Tim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > -- Alvin B. Marcelo, MD Director National Telehealth Center University of the Philippines Manila Telefax: 632-525-6501 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will be flying in to Kuala Lumpur with the rest of the Philippine delegation, as what I've been told. I am equally thrilled in meeting the other participants of this event, this would be a perfect venue for me to network with people behind FOSS as well as to learn the latest in open source development for health applications. See you all in Malaysia! Jericho Rivera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070502/e1b26f48/attachment.htm From ddecouteau at sbcglobal.net Wed May 2 22:40:27 2007 From: ddecouteau at sbcglobal.net (Duane DeCouteau) Date: Wed May 2 21:06:51 2007 Subject: [participants] Registration confirmation In-Reply-To: <4638A159.8020500@fnf.com> References: <4638A159.8020500@fnf.com> Message-ID: <4638A2DB.7060306@sbcglobal.net> I concur with Bhaskar! Duane K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > It would be nice to get positive confirmation from someone that my > registration form has been received and that there will be a hotel > room in my name. To a traveler planning to go half way around the > world, "No news is good news" is less comforting than positive > confirmation. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > From tw_cook at comcast.net Wed May 2 22:51:10 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Wed May 2 21:18:51 2007 Subject: [participants] Registration confirmation In-Reply-To: <4638A159.8020500@fnf.com> References: <4638A159.8020500@fnf.com> Message-ID: <1178117470.3640.10.camel@oship> On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 10:34 -0400, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > It would be nice to get positive confirmation from someone that my > registration form has been received and that there will be a hotel room > in my name. To a traveler planning to go half way around the world, "No > news is good news" is less comforting than positive confirmation. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar Bhaskar, I can fully appreciate that sentiment. This is 'not' an official reply to your status though I want to tell you that the method of operation has been (since I've been here to witness it) to actively pursue those that have not completed and returned documents. It seems that it has been confusing to some that there were two similar looking but very different documents. One for funding and one for registration. Each with different file names. I have witnessed that Molly and Jason have spent many hours on email and phones in getting the correct documents from the correct people. I have not personally looked through the registrations as yet. However, (if it means anything) if you have not been harassed, especially as a presenter, then you are okay. Hopefully that is a little comfort for today. "I expect" that by tomorrow morning your time you will receive a confirmation email from either Jason or I. Hope That Helps for right now. Cheers, Tim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To a traveler planning to go half way around the > world, "No news is good news" is less comforting than positive > confirmation. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 2 20:11:48 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 21:46:26 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference Dtailed Programme May 2nd 2007 Message-ID: <46388004.3070202@pc.jaring.my> Dear all, Here is the Conference Programme Detailed Programme adjusted based on requests received. The changes to the abstracts are still being amended. Not all changes had been received. Not all abstracts had also been received. Rgds, Molly -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In any case, I did not mean to add to your aggravation. I appreciate the effort that you are putting in to organize OSHCA 2007. Regards -- Bhaskar Molly Cheah wrote, On 05/02/2007 11:18 AM: > Bhaskar, > I thought I replied to you before Bhakar, confirming receipt of the > registration form and the hotel booking. In fact you had even replied to > me on that. i'm afraid we don't have anothe system for acknowledging > except one of us 2-3 replying... > > Rgds, > Molly > K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > > > It would be nice to get positive confirmation from someone that my > > registration form has been received and that there will be a hotel > > room in my name. To a traveler planning to go half way around the > > world, "No news is good news" is less comforting than positive > > confirmation. > > > > Regards > > -- Bhaskar From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 00:01:30 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 22:28:18 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <2c9aeb960705020646n1111b5d2nad3a1e403fc3383a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> <2c9aeb960705020646n1111b5d2nad3a1e403fc3383a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4638B5DA.9020807@pc.jaring.my> We're negotiating with the hotel... Keep your fingers cross. Bring some gin or whatever you put into the fruit punch they supply. But we want everyone to be on time the first day of the conference. Molly Alvin Marcelo wrote: > Thanks Tim. Will there be corkage? Or will this be consumed in rooms? > > alvin > > > > > On 5/1/07, *Tim Cook* > wrote: > > All, > > Drinks are on your own at the Reception Dinner. > > I was unaware how expensive wine is in KL. > > Therefore if you drink wine (or even if you don't :-> ) you should > consider bringing a bottle with you. > > Officially the limit on entry is one liter. However, the common > knowledge has it that if you are declaring it for your own > consumption > then you can bring two liters without issue. This would be nice to > have > to share at the dinner. > > Cheers, > > Tim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > > -- > Alvin B. Marcelo, MD > Director > National Telehealth Center > University of the Philippines Manila > Telefax: 632-525-6501 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 00:09:29 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 22:36:23 2007 Subject: [participants] Registration confirmation In-Reply-To: <4638A2DB.7060306@sbcglobal.net> References: <4638A159.8020500@fnf.com> <4638A2DB.7060306@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4638B7B9.8070409@pc.jaring.my> Sorry Duane for the shortage of responses. Everyone too scattered and there are too many public holidays here and merry making as well. I take responsibility for the poor organisation. Like I said before maybe we should pay for 1st class organisation and have less money to bring speakers from all over the world to present. But frankly I don't think I want the speakers to be without hotel accommodation! After all I worked very very hard too to put the conference together. Its past midnight aand I'm still answering e-mails. See you all in KL. Rgds, Molly Duane DeCouteau wrote: > I concur with Bhaskar! > > Duane > > K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > >> It would be nice to get positive confirmation from someone that my >> registration form has been received and that there will be a hotel >> room in my name. To a traveler planning to go half way around the >> world, "No news is good news" is less comforting than positive >> confirmation. >> >> Regards >> -- Bhaskar >> _______________________________________________ >> participants mailing list >> participants@oshca.org >> http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 00:21:54 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 2 22:48:45 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: Filled forms In-Reply-To: <63583d000705020848j7106c855vff156c8fc80587a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <63583d000705020848j7106c855vff156c8fc80587a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4638BAA2.5090805@pc.jaring.my> Thanks Daniel. I hope you are subscribed to the participants list to get announcements and updates on the conference. Someone in the list will guide you thru the archives if you missed the earlier messages on how to get to the hotel from the airpot, KLIA. Everyone, this is Daniel Kayiwa from Uganda, Africa and he's got something exciting to show you all from Africa. Molly Daniel Kayiwa wrote: > > Dear Conference organiser, > > Attached are the filled forms. > > Daniel > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > From ks.bhaskar at fnf.com Thu May 3 02:00:48 2007 From: ks.bhaskar at fnf.com (K.S. Bhaskar) Date: Thu May 3 00:27:18 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic Message-ID: <4638D1D0.2040603@fnf.com> The VistA Free / Open Source Software stack is VistA on GT.M on Linux. Anyone who wishes to do so will have the opportunity to leave Kuala Lumpur able to run the VistA FOSS stack. The VistA FOSS Stack Clinic starts at 1600 on Day 2 (Wednesday, May 9) and is scheduled till 1730, but will continue as long as needed - I will personally commit to getting the software up and running on your x86 based laptop/PC.* There are three approaches to getting the stack installed: 1. The Brain Transplant approach is to install Linux on your PC's hard drive, either over an existing Windows partition, or into a new partition. If you want to install into a new partition to be carved out of your Windows partition, please defragment your Windows *before* you come to the clinic, and ensure that you have at least 3GB of free space. Also, back up any valuable files in your Windows partition, including possibly the entire partition: to date, I have not lost a Windows partition during a Linux install, and we would all prefer not to have your PC be the first one. Once Linux is installed, we will install VistA & GT.M. [If your PC is already running Linux, please make sure you have at least 1.2GB free space.] 2. In the VivitA live CD approach, the hard drive on your disk is untouched. When you want to run VistA, you boot your PC with a live CD that includes the entire VistA FOSS stack. The read/write storage for the database is provided by a USB flash drive (1GB minimum). The advantage of this technique is that you can run this on your laptop in KL, take it home, and run it on a different PC there. 3. In the Toaster approach, your Windows / Mac machine runs an emulator or virtual PC that runs the VistA FOSS stack. This is the most flexible approach, but is not suitable for production use. If you want to use this approach, please bring a USB flash drive (2GB minimum) or ensure that you have at least 2GB available on your hard drive. I personally went with the brain transplant approach on my laptop. If you have questions, please e-mail the list (reply to this e-mail) and I will answer - it is likely that someone else has the same question. Regards -- Bhaskar * Caveat: Just because it's so easy to install the VistA FOSS stack and get it up an running in a matter of minnutes doesn't mean that you will have a fully functional VistA implementation. VistA requires configuration for your institution. From xga at comitan.com Thu May 3 02:02:41 2007 From: xga at comitan.com (Xavier Gonzalez Alonso) Date: Thu May 3 00:29:35 2007 Subject: [participants] Congratulations to OSHCA organizers Message-ID: <000001c78ce4$15fb4790$41f1d6b0$@com> After reading the so many 'urgent' queries from participants and kind answers from the organizers of the 2007 OSHCA Conference, I just had this need to congratulate Molly et al, for your warmth, patience and - I would say - heroic commitment to the organization of this important international event. So, from a little farther away than 'the other side of the world' (13 hours time difference in Southern Mexico), please receive my recognition. I am sure all participants greatly appreciate your efforts and will be very pleased to meet you and say this in person next week... Best, Xavier Gonzalez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070502/3bc9d3ef/attachment.html From francis.sarmiento3 at gmail.com Thu May 3 02:17:42 2007 From: francis.sarmiento3 at gmail.com (Francisco Sarmiento III) Date: Thu May 3 00:44:04 2007 Subject: [participants] Congratulations to OSHCA organizers In-Reply-To: <000001c78ce4$15fb4790$41f1d6b0$@com> References: <000001c78ce4$15fb4790$41f1d6b0$@com> Message-ID: <3c6717fa0705021117w69ce1175y53baa9e2efab5beb@mail.gmail.com> Count me in, Xavier! I strongly agree on the patience and understanding and dedication Molly has been showering especially to the late evening and early morning inquiries. My kudos also to the rest of the conference staff. I know how it feels to be in the middle of it all. My salute to you, Molly and all! Please keep on smiling and I would surely look forward to see that smile when I reach KL. Let us all SMILE! :) Sincerely, Francisco E. Sarmiento III, MD On 5/3/07, Xavier Gonzalez Alonso wrote: > > > > After reading the so many 'urgent' queries from participants and kind > answers from the organizers of the 2007 OSHCA Conference, I just had this > need to congratulate Molly et al, for your warmth, patience and ? I would > say - heroic commitment to the organization of this important international > event. > > > > So, from a little farther away than 'the other side of the world' (13 hours > time difference in Southern Mexico), please receive my recognition. I am > sure all participants greatly appreciate your efforts and will be very > pleased to meet you and say this in person next week... > > > > Best, > > Xavier Gonzalez > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > -- Francisco "Francis" E. Sarmiento III, MD Project Support Officer UNDP-International Open Source Network ASEAN+3 Sub-Regional Node University of the Philippines Manila-National Telehealth Center 3rd Floor I.T. Complex, Dietary Building, PGH Compound Taft Avenue, 1000 MANILA, Philippines Telefax no: +00 63 2 5256501 Mobile: +63 915 8501111 Website: www.iosn.net From tchur at optushome.com.au Thu May 3 05:04:21 2007 From: tchur at optushome.com.au (Tim Churches) Date: Thu May 3 03:30:44 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <4638D1D0.2040603@fnf.com> References: <4638D1D0.2040603@fnf.com> Message-ID: <4638FCD5.3050204@optushome.com.au> K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > The VistA Free / Open Source Software stack is VistA on GT.M on Linux. > Anyone who wishes to do so will have the opportunity to leave Kuala > Lumpur able to run the VistA FOSS stack. The VistA FOSS Stack Clinic > starts at 1600 on Day 2 (Wednesday, May 9) and is scheduled till 1730, > but will continue as long as needed - I will personally commit to > getting the software up and running on your x86 based laptop/PC.* ... > * Caveat: Just because it's so easy to install the VistA FOSS stack and > get it up an running in a matter of minnutes doesn't mean that you will > have a fully functional VistA implementation. VistA requires > configuration for your institution. Will you or someone else be able to provide clues on how to minimally configure VistA for a simple clinic setting? I've gotten as far as installing it and booting it up before, but have then become lost as to how to configure it. A "cheat sheet" or similar would be great - perhaps we can put one together on-the-fly if one doesn't already exist. Tim C From ks.bhaskar at fnf.com Thu May 3 05:07:42 2007 From: ks.bhaskar at fnf.com (K.S. Bhaskar) Date: Thu May 3 03:34:16 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <4638FCD5.3050204@optushome.com.au> References: <4638D1D0.2040603@fnf.com> <4638FCD5.3050204@optushome.com.au> Message-ID: <4638FD9E.90208@fnf.com> Tim -- I don't know anything about configuring VistA, but I believe there will be others there who do, so let's try to get something done in KL. Regards -- Bhaskar Tim Churches wrote, On 05/02/2007 05:04 PM: > K.S. Bhaskar wrote: >> The VistA Free / Open Source Software stack is VistA on GT.M on Linux. >> Anyone who wishes to do so will have the opportunity to leave Kuala >> Lumpur able to run the VistA FOSS stack. The VistA FOSS Stack Clinic >> starts at 1600 on Day 2 (Wednesday, May 9) and is scheduled till 1730, >> but will continue as long as needed - I will personally commit to >> getting the software up and running on your x86 based laptop/PC.* > ... >> * Caveat: Just because it's so easy to install the VistA FOSS stack and >> get it up an running in a matter of minnutes doesn't mean that you will >> have a fully functional VistA implementation. VistA requires >> configuration for your institution. > > Will you or someone else be able to provide clues on how to minimally > configure VistA for a simple clinic setting? I've gotten as far as > installing it and booting it up before, but have then become lost as to > how to configure it. A "cheat sheet" or similar would be great - perhaps > we can put one together on-the-fly if one doesn't already exist. > > Tim C From tw_cook at comcast.net Thu May 3 05:14:16 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Thu May 3 03:40:49 2007 Subject: [participants] SWAG Message-ID: <1178140456.6242.8.camel@oship> "In popular culture, the term swag now usually refers to promotional items or gifts that are given away by companies or organizations. It can also simply be used as a slang term for desirable items in general." There will be tables available for you to distribute CDs, brochures, etc. The tables are 2 feet wide and 8 feet long. I assume we can likely accommodate 2 - 3 different displays on a table. Please let us know if you will need space and if so approx. how much. Cheers, Tim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Talking of conference "products", are there plans to (audio) record the sessions? a laptop and a good quality microphone are all that is needed, FOSS software can be used to create very small audio files. I'll try to find the instructions used for a Python conference a few years ago. Or video? A digital video camera on a tripod, with a plug-in condensor mike works well and is fuss-free. It is tedious to convert the videos later but the actual recording is easy. Teh conference organisers have enough to do, so if such recording is to happen I think the we participants need to organise it amongst ourselves. Tim C > Tim Churches wrote, On 05/02/2007 05:04 PM: >> K.S. Bhaskar wrote: >>> The VistA Free / Open Source Software stack is VistA on GT.M on Linux. >>> Anyone who wishes to do so will have the opportunity to leave Kuala >>> Lumpur able to run the VistA FOSS stack. The VistA FOSS Stack Clinic >>> starts at 1600 on Day 2 (Wednesday, May 9) and is scheduled till 1730, >>> but will continue as long as needed - I will personally commit to >>> getting the software up and running on your x86 based laptop/PC.* >> ... >>> * Caveat: Just because it's so easy to install the VistA FOSS stack and >>> get it up an running in a matter of minnutes doesn't mean that you will >>> have a fully functional VistA implementation. VistA requires >>> configuration for your institution. >> >> Will you or someone else be able to provide clues on how to minimally >> configure VistA for a simple clinic setting? I've gotten as far as >> installing it and booting it up before, but have then become lost as to >> how to configure it. A "cheat sheet" or similar would be great - perhaps >> we can put one together on-the-fly if one doesn't already exist. >> >> Tim C > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > From tw_cook at comcast.net Thu May 3 05:45:50 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Thu May 3 04:12:18 2007 Subject: [participants] Volunteers Needed Message-ID: <1178142351.6242.23.camel@oship> Volunteers are needed to serve as room liaisons during the conference. This isn't a large task but it is an important one. The duties will be to provide continuity between sessions (kick people out and get people seated) in the room, introduce speakers if they wish and report any technical difficulties to the staff. So really about 5 minutes between each session. The tours of duty would be about three sessions each all in the same room. Below are a list of the time frames and rooms. They should correspond with the schedule you received via email. So take a look and if you are going to be in specific room for a couple of sessions in a row then please volunteer for that slot. The rooms are immediately next to each other so it is very feasible to perform this task in one and then attend your event in the other. So, if you are open to this just ask me to put you where needed. The slots are indicated in the table below. If you will put your name in the indicated cells for one or more slots and email it back, I will be most appreciative. Banquet hall Pahang Suite Selangor Suite Day 1 1400-1730 1400-1730 1400-1730 Liaison Name: Day 2 (AM) 1100-1230 1100-1230 1100-1230 Liaison Name: Day 2 (PM) 1400-1730 1400-1730 1400-1730 Liaison Name: Day 3 (AM) 1100-1230 1100-1230 1100-1230 Liaison Name: Day 3 (PM) 1400-1730 1400-1730 1400-1730 Liaison Name: Day 4 (AM) 1100-1230 1100-1230 Liaison Name: Day 4 (PM) 1400-1730 1400-1730 Liaison Name: Cheers, Tim Cook -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is tedious to convert the videos > later but the actual recording is easy. > > Teh conference organisers have enough to do, so if such recording is to > happen I think the we participants need to organise it amongst ourselves. Thanks Tim. That would be great. Also though while you're at it someone will need to research a generic release form for presenters to sign allowing OSHCA to use the recording. If this isn't done ahead of time then there is a chance that the time spent is wasted. Much like in LA a few years ago. Yes, even at an "Open Everything" conference here were those that didn't want their presentation released. Thanks, Tim Cook -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I must truly appreciate all that has been already arranged including the prompt replies and the quick arrangements that you have taken care for this International Conference; this will definitely go a long way in promoting knowledge sharing, preliminary to advanced learning and partnership building between the various Free & Open Source Software and Open Source Health practitioner communities! Molly, great job! Hats off to you and your team! Meet you soon! Regards ----------------------- Fouad Riaz Bajwa From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 07:00:17 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Thu May 3 05:27:04 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: CONFERENCE-WORKSHOP PARTICIPANTS-HOTEL ROOM ASSIGNMENTS AND ARRIVAL SCHEDULES AT KLIA In-Reply-To: <3c6717fa0705021451s616815dmf1361a404869d42@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c6717fa0705021451s616815dmf1361a404869d42@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46391801.1050903@pc.jaring.my> Thanks Francis for this information. Jason, please take note. I may be out of circulation a bit today and tomorrow (working hours) - MOH meetings. But Jason and Tim Cook are around to assist. To introduce to the other participants, though some have already done so themselves. I hope the rest will subscribe themselves as I don't have their e-mails addresses to do that for them. Thnks, Molly Francisco Sarmiento III wrote: > Dear Sir or Madam: > > We are pleased to provide you with the list of the participants for > the 2007 OSHCA Conference-Workshop as of 03 May 2007, as follows: > > > BY COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: > > CAMBODIA > 1. SOPHEA CHAN, female > 2. DOEUK VISAL, male > > INDONESIA > 3. OLIVIA DWI AYU Q, female > > PHILIPPINES > 4. VICTOLERO, CORNELIA, female > 5. DEL POSO, MELISSA, female > 6. BANZON, PETER ANTONIO, male > 7. BETAN, ARIEL, male > 8. ALAFRIZ, ABRAHAM, male > 9. AMORIN, JAY JESUS, male > 10. CAMPOS, REUBEN, male > 11. VEGA, MIGUEL, male > 12. FALCONE, PAOLO ALEXIS, male > 13. SEA, ALEXANDER, male > 14. SABDULLA, ZULFIKAR, male > 15. RIVERA, JERICHO ARTURO, male > 16. RODRIGUEZ, ALPHONSUS NOEL, male > 17. PEREZ, ALISON, male > 18. MARCELO, ALVIN, male > 19. SARMIENTO III, FRANCISCO, male > 20. SANTUILE, JORNELYN, female > > VIETNAM > 21. LE THANH BINH, female > 22. CHU VIET ANH, male > 23. TRAN TRUNG, male > 24. NGUYEN VU HOANG, male > 25. TRAN TRUNG HIEU, male > 26. TUAN TRUONG ANH, male > > FEMALE = 6 > MALE = 20 > > > BY ROOM ASSIGNMENTS (TWIN SHARING): > > FEMALE ROOM ASSIGNMENTS > > #1 SANTUILE + VICTOLERO > #2 DEL POSO + DWI (arriving 08 May evening) > #3 LE THANH BINH + CHAN > > > MALE ROOM ASSIGNMENTS > > #4 MARCELO + BANZON > #5 FALCONE + VEGA > #6 BETAN + PEREZ (arriving 6th May) > #7 SEA + ALAFRIZ > #8 SARMIENTO + RODRIGUEZ > #9 NGUYEN VU HOANG + TRAN TRUNG HIEU (arriving 6th May) > #10 AMORIN + CAMPOS > #11 SABDULLA + RIVERA > #12 TUAN TRUONG ANH + TRAN TRUNG > #13 DOEUK + CHU TIEN ANH > > > BY ARRIVAL SCHEDULES AT KLIA/LCCT: > > GROUP #1 - 06 MAY CEBU PACIFIC 5J501 0035H > PEREZ, ALISON > > GROUP #2 - 06 MALAYSIAN AIRLINES MH753 1905H > NGUYEN VU HOANG > TRAN TRUNG HIEU > > GROUP #3 - 07 MAY CEBU PACIFIC 5J501 0035H > VICTOLERO, CORNELIA > DEL POSO, MELISSA > BANZON, PETER ANTONIO > BETAN, ARIEL > ALAFRIZ, ABRAHAM > AMORIN, JAY JESUS > CAMPOS, REUBEN > VEGA, MIGUEL > FALCONE, PAOLO ALEXIS > SEA, ALEXANDER > SABDULLA, ZULFIKAR > RIVERA, JERICHO ARTURO > RODRIGUEZ, ALPHONSUS NOEL > > GROUP #4 - 07 MAY MALAYSIAN AIRLINES MH755 1400H > SOPHEA CHAN > DOEUK VISAL > > GROUP #5 - 07 MAY VIETNAM AIRLINES VN759 1455H > LE THANH BINH > CHU VIET ANH > TRAN TRUNG > TUAN TRUONG ANH > > GROUP #6 - 07 MAY SINGAPORE AIRLINES SQ915 1330H > SANTUILE, JORNELYN > SARMIENTO III, FRANCISCO > > GROUP #7 - 08 MAY AIR ASIA AK957 2320H > OLIVIA DWI AYU Q > > > In this connection, may we request for your consideration to provide > GROUND TRANSFERS FROM AIRPORT TO HOTEL and their HOTEL ROOMS UPON > ARRIVAL based on the assigned room assignments for ALL Groups > especially those who are arriving at midnight in GROUPS #1 (06 May) > and #3 (07 May) to ensure everybody's safety. > > > Question #1: Can we wire the payments for the HOTEL ROOMS directly to > Federal Hotel? If yes, how would we go about it? > > Question #2: How much is the allowable cash amount to be brought in > Malaysia per customs regulations? Hope you can provide us with > information the participants should know regarding airport and customs > regulations in KLIA as most of them are first-time travelers. > > > The OSHCA registration forms for the abovementioned participants will > be emailed to you by the afternoon of 03 May 2007. We are still > waiting for the others to send it to us for double-checking before we > send it to conference@oshca.org. > > We will immediately notify you of changes as soon as they happen. > > We would sincerely appreciate your prompt reply. > > Thank you for consideration and understanding. > > > Yours truly, > > Francis > > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 08:26:49 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Thu May 3 06:53:35 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: Registration In-Reply-To: <006101c78d0e$d51c51d0$0200a8c0@CameronS> References: <003d01c78cda$a8615a20$0200a8c0@CameronS> <4638C492.9050406@pc.jaring.my> <006101c78d0e$d51c51d0$0200a8c0@CameronS> Message-ID: <46392C49.2040002@pc.jaring.my> Here's the information on converter for electrical supply. http://www.walkabouttravelgear.com/c_malay.htm Anything that works in the UK works here. Molly Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > What do I need in terms of a converter for my notebook? In fact, > should I bring it or just bring a thumb drive with my presentation on > it? I looked at the hotel's web site but found no information on > connectivity especially Internet connectivity. > From JJulian at oasishospital.org Wed May 2 23:53:00 2007 From: JJulian at oasishospital.org (Jerry Julian) Date: Thu May 3 06:55:39 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription Message-ID: <1645192c.1c78cd2.56bb30e.6784@oasishospital.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070502/90e6e1fa/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: main_background.gif Type: image/gif Size: 94080 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070502/90e6e1fa/main_background-0001.gif From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 08:55:15 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Thu May 3 07:21:57 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription In-Reply-To: <1645192c.1c78cd2.56bb30e.6784@oasishospital.org> References: <1645192c.1c78cd2.56bb30e.6784@oasishospital.org> Message-ID: <463932F3.9030901@pc.jaring.my> Jerry, You have yet to provide us with your flight info in the reg form. Without flight information "or" payment of reg fees we would not be able to reg you formally or book your hotel room. Please do so asap. Look forward to see you in KL. Molly Jerry Julian wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to subscribe for the OSHCA Conference 2007. I have > already sent my registration form for the conference I hope you get it. > > Regards, > > *JERRY B. JULIAN* > Information Technology Dept. > OASIS HOSPITAL, P.O.Box 1016 > Al Ain, United Arab Emirates > > _______________________ > Tel.: +971 3 7014 160 > Fax: +971 3 7222 007 > Mobile: +971 50 6934954 > eMail: jjulian@oasis.smart.net > Web: www.oasishospital.org > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > From ravindra at opensource.lk Wed May 2 21:38:52 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Thu May 3 08:35:47 2007 Subject: [participants] Congratulations to OSHCA organizers In-Reply-To: <3c6717fa0705021117w69ce1175y53baa9e2efab5beb@mail.gmail.com> References: <000001c78ce4$15fb4790$41f1d6b0$@com> <3c6717fa0705021117w69ce1175y53baa9e2efab5beb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1178113132.4008.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > I strongly agree on the patience and understanding and dedication > Molly has been showering especially to the late evening and early > morning inquiries. My kudos also to the rest of the conference staff. I too would like to thank Molly and the rest of the staff for the great work they have done. From our end we made so many changes (we still do :) ), and she easily accommodated those changes with out any complain. > > Please keep on smiling and I would surely look forward to see that > smile when I reach KL. yes , lets all keep smiling :) its good for the health. btw, i have some bad news specially for the Sri Lankan Participants. Malaysian Airlines have decided to stop the night flights due to recent bomb attacks in Colombo airport. Previously Emirates, Cathay discontinued all their flight and Singapore airlines stopped night flights. I asked my travel agent to change my flight from Sri Lankan airlines to Malaysian , and i hope he has not. to make things worse the last few days were holidays. I hope i can some how make it. cheers ravindra From ravindra at opensource.lk Wed May 2 21:43:50 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Thu May 3 08:40:47 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <4638B5DA.9020807@pc.jaring.my> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> <2c9aeb960705020646n1111b5d2nad3a1e403fc3383a@mail.gmail.com> <4638B5DA.9020807@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <1178113430.4008.25.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 00:01 +0800, Molly Cheah wrote: > We're negotiating with the hotel... Keep your fingers cross. Bring some > gin or whatever you put into the fruit punch they supply. > > But we want everyone to be on time the first day of the conference. Dear Molly I will be arriving on KL at 8.30 a.m on 8th and hope to reach the conference by 10 a.m. Right now there is lot of uncertainty about the time,ect specially with Malaysian Airlines discontinuing night flights to Sri Lanka due to recent bomb attacks by the terrorists. since many places were closed for the past few days to holiday, today only i can tackle these uncertainties. thanks cheers ravindra From francis.sarmiento3 at gmail.com Thu May 3 10:20:21 2007 From: francis.sarmiento3 at gmail.com (Francisco Sarmiento III) Date: Thu May 3 08:46:41 2007 Subject: [participants] Congratulations to OSHCA organizers In-Reply-To: <1178113132.4008.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <000001c78ce4$15fb4790$41f1d6b0$@com> <3c6717fa0705021117w69ce1175y53baa9e2efab5beb@mail.gmail.com> <1178113132.4008.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <3c6717fa0705021920p2a7f2aa0tbf6562d2f9b640c5@mail.gmail.com> Hi Ravindra! It is sad to know that these things happen. We pray for your safe journey to KL and back to Sri Lanka. See you soon. Sincerely, On 5/2/07, Ravindra De Silva wrote: > > I strongly agree on the patience and understanding and dedication > > Molly has been showering especially to the late evening and early > > morning inquiries. My kudos also to the rest of the conference staff. > > I too would like to thank Molly and the rest of the staff for the great > work they have done. From our end we made so many changes (we still > do :) ), and she easily accommodated those changes with out any > complain. > > > > > Please keep on smiling and I would surely look forward to see that > > smile when I reach KL. > > yes , lets all keep smiling :) its good for the health. > > btw, i have some bad news specially for the Sri Lankan Participants. > Malaysian Airlines have decided to stop the night flights due to recent > bomb attacks in Colombo airport. > Previously Emirates, Cathay discontinued all their flight and Singapore > airlines stopped night flights. > I asked my travel agent to change my flight from Sri Lankan airlines to > Malaysian , and i hope he has not. to make things worse the last few > days were holidays. I hope i can some how make it. > > cheers > ravindra > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Francisco "Francis" E. Sarmiento III, MD Project Support Officer UNDP-International Open Source Network ASEAN+3 Sub-Regional Node University of the Philippines Manila-National Telehealth Center 3rd Floor I.T. Complex, Dietary Building, PGH Compound Taft Avenue, 1000 MANILA, Philippines Telefax no: +00 63 2 5256501 Mobile: +63 915 8501111 Website: www.iosn.net From tw_cook at comcast.net Thu May 3 10:14:43 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Thu May 3 09:01:36 2007 Subject: [participants] Scribes Message-ID: <1178158483.10997.24.camel@oship> Okay, so I do tend to come up with odd subject lines. But they make you want to read it right? ;-) Are any of you regular contributors to national or international journals/periodicals on any subject in health care or informatics? I would be happy to (and I'm sure others would be as well) help in developing articles/reports for after conference publication. Thanks, Tim Cook -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070502/7c6b7623/attachment.pgp From hoangnv at netnam.vn Thu May 3 10:37:19 2007 From: hoangnv at netnam.vn (hoangnv) Date: Thu May 3 09:04:01 2007 Subject: [*SPAM* Score/Req: 7.9/7.0] [participants] Re: CONFERENCE-WORKSHOP PARTICIPANTS-HOTEL ROOM ASSIGNMENTS AND ARRIVAL SCHEDULES AT KLIA In-Reply-To: <46391801.1050903@pc.jaring.my> References: <3c6717fa0705021451s616815dmf1361a404869d42@mail.gmail.com> <46391801.1050903@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <011701c78d2b$f8aa50d0$e9fef270$@vn> Dear Mr. Francis, I can see the problem with our flight to Kuala Lumpur > > GROUP #2 - 06 MALAYSIAN AIRLINES MH753 1905H > NGUYEN VU HOANG > TRAN TRUNG HIEU > We changed to Vietnam Airlines (not Malaysia Airlines) and sent this note to Mr. Francis after Arrival at KLIT VN757 06MAY 13:20H Departure VN758 12MAY 15:55H So pls update the flight number, and the time Hieu and I arrival at Kuala Lumpur, (13h20 06 May, VN757) Thanks and best regards, -- HOANG --- NGUYEN VU HOANG Project & Development Department NetNam Corporation - Institute of Information Technology Tel: (844) 756 1885, Fax: 756 1888 Mobile: 09 02 09 1957 e-mail: hoangnv@netnam.vn --- NetNam is the first Internet Service Provider in Vietnam, who is providing services for thousands of clients, including networking, VoIP and security solutions. NetNam' slogan: From Development & For Development You can visit us at: http://home.netnam.vn -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Molly Cheah Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 6:00 AM To: Francisco Sarmiento III Cc: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: [*SPAM* Score/Req: 7.9/7.0] [participants] Re: CONFERENCE-WORKSHOP PARTICIPANTS-HOTEL ROOM ASSIGNMENTS AND ARRIVAL SCHEDULES AT KLIA Thanks Francis for this information. Jason, please take note. I may be out of circulation a bit today and tomorrow (working hours) - MOH meetings. But Jason and Tim Cook are around to assist. To introduce to the other participants, though some have already done so themselves. I hope the rest will subscribe themselves as I don't have their e-mails addresses to do that for them. Thnks, Molly Francisco Sarmiento III wrote: > Dear Sir or Madam: > > We are pleased to provide you with the list of the participants for > the 2007 OSHCA Conference-Workshop as of 03 May 2007, as follows: > > > BY COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: > > CAMBODIA > 1. SOPHEA CHAN, female > 2. DOEUK VISAL, male > > INDONESIA > 3. OLIVIA DWI AYU Q, female > > PHILIPPINES > 4. VICTOLERO, CORNELIA, female > 5. DEL POSO, MELISSA, female > 6. BANZON, PETER ANTONIO, male > 7. BETAN, ARIEL, male > 8. ALAFRIZ, ABRAHAM, male > 9. AMORIN, JAY JESUS, male > 10. CAMPOS, REUBEN, male > 11. VEGA, MIGUEL, male > 12. FALCONE, PAOLO ALEXIS, male > 13. SEA, ALEXANDER, male > 14. SABDULLA, ZULFIKAR, male > 15. RIVERA, JERICHO ARTURO, male > 16. RODRIGUEZ, ALPHONSUS NOEL, male > 17. PEREZ, ALISON, male > 18. MARCELO, ALVIN, male > 19. SARMIENTO III, FRANCISCO, male > 20. SANTUILE, JORNELYN, female > > VIETNAM > 21. LE THANH BINH, female > 22. CHU VIET ANH, male > 23. TRAN TRUNG, male > 24. NGUYEN VU HOANG, male > 25. TRAN TRUNG HIEU, male > 26. TUAN TRUONG ANH, male > > FEMALE = 6 > MALE = 20 > > > BY ROOM ASSIGNMENTS (TWIN SHARING): > > FEMALE ROOM ASSIGNMENTS > > #1 SANTUILE + VICTOLERO > #2 DEL POSO + DWI (arriving 08 May evening) > #3 LE THANH BINH + CHAN > > > MALE ROOM ASSIGNMENTS > > #4 MARCELO + BANZON > #5 FALCONE + VEGA > #6 BETAN + PEREZ (arriving 6th May) > #7 SEA + ALAFRIZ > #8 SARMIENTO + RODRIGUEZ > #9 NGUYEN VU HOANG + TRAN TRUNG HIEU (arriving 6th May) > #10 AMORIN + CAMPOS > #11 SABDULLA + RIVERA > #12 TUAN TRUONG ANH + TRAN TRUNG > #13 DOEUK + CHU TIEN ANH > > > BY ARRIVAL SCHEDULES AT KLIA/LCCT: > > GROUP #1 - 06 MAY CEBU PACIFIC 5J501 0035H > PEREZ, ALISON > > GROUP #2 - 06 MALAYSIAN AIRLINES MH753 1905H > NGUYEN VU HOANG > TRAN TRUNG HIEU > > GROUP #3 - 07 MAY CEBU PACIFIC 5J501 0035H > VICTOLERO, CORNELIA > DEL POSO, MELISSA > BANZON, PETER ANTONIO > BETAN, ARIEL > ALAFRIZ, ABRAHAM > AMORIN, JAY JESUS > CAMPOS, REUBEN > VEGA, MIGUEL > FALCONE, PAOLO ALEXIS > SEA, ALEXANDER > SABDULLA, ZULFIKAR > RIVERA, JERICHO ARTURO > RODRIGUEZ, ALPHONSUS NOEL > > GROUP #4 - 07 MAY MALAYSIAN AIRLINES MH755 1400H > SOPHEA CHAN > DOEUK VISAL > > GROUP #5 - 07 MAY VIETNAM AIRLINES VN759 1455H > LE THANH BINH > CHU VIET ANH > TRAN TRUNG > TUAN TRUONG ANH > > GROUP #6 - 07 MAY SINGAPORE AIRLINES SQ915 1330H > SANTUILE, JORNELYN > SARMIENTO III, FRANCISCO > > GROUP #7 - 08 MAY AIR ASIA AK957 2320H > OLIVIA DWI AYU Q > > > In this connection, may we request for your consideration to provide > GROUND TRANSFERS FROM AIRPORT TO HOTEL and their HOTEL ROOMS UPON > ARRIVAL based on the assigned room assignments for ALL Groups > especially those who are arriving at midnight in GROUPS #1 (06 May) > and #3 (07 May) to ensure everybody's safety. > > > Question #1: Can we wire the payments for the HOTEL ROOMS directly to > Federal Hotel? If yes, how would we go about it? > > Question #2: How much is the allowable cash amount to be brought in > Malaysia per customs regulations? Hope you can provide us with > information the participants should know regarding airport and customs > regulations in KLIA as most of them are first-time travelers. > > > The OSHCA registration forms for the abovementioned participants will > be emailed to you by the afternoon of 03 May 2007. We are still > waiting for the others to send it to us for double-checking before we > send it to conference@oshca.org. > > We will immediately notify you of changes as soon as they happen. > > We would sincerely appreciate your prompt reply. > > Thank you for consideration and understanding. > > > Yours truly, > > Francis > > _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants From KS.Bhaskar at fnf.com Thu May 3 10:42:21 2007 From: KS.Bhaskar at fnf.com (Bhaskar, KS) Date: Thu May 3 09:08:43 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: Registration References: <003d01c78cda$a8615a20$0200a8c0@CameronS><4638C492.9050406@pc.jaring.my><006101c78d0e$d51c51d0$0200a8c0@CameronS> <46392C49.2040002@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <0BCF5F2A5E08F34AA216BCFDB6C47B2B0AC10C@CMBFISLTC06.FNFIS.COM> Cameron -- Most laptops have a world power supply (check of course). You may need to buy an adapter that allows you to plug a US plug into a Malaysian outlet - probably around $10-15 at a place like Radio Shack, hardware store, or travel store. http://www.travel-images.com/electric-plugs.html may be helpful. I tend to carry a network cable with me when I travel - Wifi is not as common as I would like it to be. Also, I carry a crossover cable so that I can always transfer data between two computers at high speed. Regards -- Bhaskar -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org on behalf of Molly Cheah Sent: Wed 5/2/2007 8:26 PM To: Cameron Schlehuber Cc: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: [participants] Re: Registration Here's the information on converter for electrical supply. http://www.walkabouttravelgear.com/c_malay.htm Anything that works in the UK works here. Molly Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > What do I need in terms of a converter for my notebook? 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Of course I can't guarantee that there will be enough stock for all 100+ of you. :-) Regards, Jason Tan On 5/3/07, Bhaskar, KS wrote: > Cameron -- > > Most laptops have a world power supply (check of course). You may need to buy an adapter that allows you to plug a US plug into a Malaysian outlet - probably around $10-15 at a place like Radio Shack, hardware store, or travel store. http://www.travel-images.com/electric-plugs.html may be helpful. > > I tend to carry a network cable with me when I travel - Wifi is not as common as I would like it to be. Also, I carry a crossover cable so that I can always transfer data between two computers at high speed. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > > -----Original Message----- > From: participants-bounces@oshca.org on behalf of Molly Cheah > Sent: Wed 5/2/2007 8:26 PM > To: Cameron Schlehuber > Cc: OSHCA Conference participants > Subject: [participants] Re: Registration > > Here's the information on converter for electrical supply. > http://www.walkabouttravelgear.com/c_malay.htm > Anything that works in the UK works here. > > Molly > > Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > > > What do I need in terms of a converter for my notebook? In fact, > > should I bring it or just bring a thumb drive with my presentation on > > it? I looked at the hotel's web site but found no information on > > connectivity especially Internet connectivity. > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From tanboonteck at gmail.com Thu May 3 10:51:29 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Thu May 3 09:18:23 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: Registration In-Reply-To: <0BCF5F2A5E08F34AA216BCFDB6C47B2B0AC10C@CMBFISLTC06.FNFIS.COM> References: <003d01c78cda$a8615a20$0200a8c0@CameronS> <4638C492.9050406@pc.jaring.my> <006101c78d0e$d51c51d0$0200a8c0@CameronS> <46392C49.2040002@pc.jaring.my> <0BCF5F2A5E08F34AA216BCFDB6C47B2B0AC10C@CMBFISLTC06.FNFIS.COM> Message-ID: For those of you that need to buy any ICT equipment and consumables, KL's most famous IT mall - Low Yat Plaza is located just behind the Federal Hotel. Of course I can't guarantee that there will be enough stock for all 100+ of you. :-) Regards, Jason Tan On 5/3/07, Bhaskar, KS wrote: > Cameron -- > > Most laptops have a world power supply (check of course). You may need to buy an adapter that allows you to plug a US plug into a Malaysian outlet - probably around $10-15 at a place like Radio Shack, hardware store, or travel store. http://www.travel-images.com/electric-plugs.html may be helpful. > > I tend to carry a network cable with me when I travel - Wifi is not as common as I would like it to be. Also, I carry a crossover cable so that I can always transfer data between two computers at high speed. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > > -----Original Message----- > From: participants-bounces@oshca.org on behalf of Molly Cheah > Sent: Wed 5/2/2007 8:26 PM > To: Cameron Schlehuber > Cc: OSHCA Conference participants > Subject: [participants] Re: Registration > > Here's the information on converter for electrical supply. > http://www.walkabouttravelgear.com/c_malay.htm > Anything that works in the UK works here. > > Molly > > Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > > > What do I need in terms of a converter for my notebook? In fact, > > should I bring it or just bring a thumb drive with my presentation on > > it? I looked at the hotel's web site but found no information on > > connectivity especially Internet connectivity. > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From wross at mendocinohre.org Thu May 3 11:46:07 2007 From: wross at mendocinohre.org (Will Ross) Date: Thu May 3 10:12:45 2007 Subject: [participants] To Tim C in KL References: Message-ID: <4E3AD79C-921B-4B67-811E-723ADFBF915C@mendocinohre.org> Tim (or Tim's proxy), As one who is already at the facility, can you please brief those of us traveling towards KL on internet access at the Federal Hotel? Is Bhaskar right? Do we have to bring our own network cables? Or is there decent wifi in our meeting facilities? And part two of the same question: will presenters be able to show live access to internet websites from the podium? With best regards, [wr] - - - - - - - - will ross chief information officer mendocino health records exchange 216 west perkins street, suite 206 ukiah, california 95482 usa 707.462.6369 [office] 707.462.5015 [fax] www.mendocinohre.org - - - - - - - - "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 - - - - - - - - From tanboonteck at gmail.com Thu May 3 11:53:38 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Thu May 3 10:19:54 2007 Subject: [participants] To Tim C in KL In-Reply-To: <4E3AD79C-921B-4B67-811E-723ADFBF915C@mendocinohre.org> References: <4E3AD79C-921B-4B67-811E-723ADFBF915C@mendocinohre.org> Message-ID: We are hoping to set up a wireless LAN at the conference with a gateway joining the internet. However, to reduce the traffic congestion, we would advise the speakers to set up the LAN version if possible, for your colleagues to view your applications. Regards, jason On 5/3/07, Will Ross wrote: > Tim (or Tim's proxy), > > As one who is already at the facility, can you please brief those of > us traveling towards KL on internet access at the Federal Hotel? Is > Bhaskar right? Do we have to bring our own network cables? Or is > there decent wifi in our meeting facilities? > > And part two of the same question: will presenters be able to show > live access to internet websites from the podium? > > With best regards, > > [wr] > > - - - - - - - - > > will ross > chief information officer > mendocino health records exchange > 216 west perkins street, suite 206 > ukiah, california 95482 usa > 707.462.6369 [office] > 707.462.5015 [fax] > www.mendocinohre.org > > - - - - - - - - > > "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." > Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 > > - - - - - - - - > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From tw_cook at comcast.net Thu May 3 12:51:50 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Thu May 3 11:18:37 2007 Subject: [participants] To Tim C in KL In-Reply-To: <4E3AD79C-921B-4B67-811E-723ADFBF915C@mendocinohre.org> References: <4E3AD79C-921B-4B67-811E-723ADFBF915C@mendocinohre.org> Message-ID: <1178167910.10997.38.camel@oship> On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 20:46 -0700, Will Ross wrote: > And part two of the same question: will presenters be able to show > live access to internet websites from the podium? Will, I would not count on being able to demo your NHIN MPI connection. Service doesn't seem to be as consistent (or as fast) as you're used to having. I suggest you just use screen shot and be good a animation. ;-) Cheers, Tim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070503/6f037e96/attachment.pgp From tw_cook at comcast.net Thu May 3 13:19:43 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Thu May 3 11:46:26 2007 Subject: [participants] Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1178169583.10997.47.camel@oship> All, There are now three new conference registration files on the OSHCA website. See: http://www.oshca.org/conference/oshca2007/ The three files are each in a different format for your convenience. Otherwise they are the same. 1. MSWord 2. OpenOffice 2.x 3. OpenOffice 1.x The instructions (which appear with as a description for each file) are as follows: -------------------------------------------- This is the conference registration form for OSHCA2007. Please download this file. Open it in yur word processor. Complete all of the questions and fill in all the blanks. Then chose File, Save As, then where prompted for a filename replace the word 'yourname' with your personal name. Note the location you saved this file then email it back to conference@oshca.org. Thank you. ------------------------------------------- If you are uncertain how to complete the form or follow these instructions then ask a colleague first if no help there then ask on the mailing lists. ***NOTE*** If you have ALREADY COMPLETED the form and sent it in then you DO NOT need to complete one of these. Regards, Tim Cook (for a frustrated Jason) :-> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 11:27 +0800, Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > Dear Tim, > > > Could you please upload these files and publish them. > > Downloading and renaming (95%) of the files received is driving me > insane. Hopefully the user would understand to rename the files before > sending. > > Many thanks. > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070503/1c97b6f1/attachment.pgp From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 14:21:11 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Thu May 3 12:47:54 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <1178113430.4008.25.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> <2c9aeb960705020646n1111b5d2nad3a1e403fc3383a@mail.gmail.com> <4638B5DA.9020807@pc.jaring.my> <1178113430.4008.25.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <46397F57.1020703@pc.jaring.my> Hope you can come in the day before even if you need to use another airline. Molly Ravindra De Silva wrote: >On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 00:01 +0800, Molly Cheah wrote: > > >>We're negotiating with the hotel... Keep your fingers cross. Bring some >>gin or whatever you put into the fruit punch they supply. >> >>But we want everyone to be on time the first day of the conference. >> >> > >Dear Molly > >I will be arriving on KL at 8.30 a.m on 8th and hope to reach the >conference by 10 a.m. Right now there is lot of uncertainty about the >time,ect specially with Malaysian Airlines discontinuing night flights >to Sri Lanka due to recent bomb attacks by the terrorists. since many >places were closed for the past few days to holiday, today only i can >tackle these uncertainties. thanks > >cheers >ravindra > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > From ravindra at opensource.lk Thu May 3 02:32:33 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Thu May 3 13:28:56 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <46397F57.1020703@pc.jaring.my> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> <2c9aeb960705020646n1111b5d2nad3a1e403fc3383a@mail.gmail.com> <4638B5DA.9020807@pc.jaring.my> <1178113430.4008.25.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46397F57.1020703@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <1178130753.4032.39.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > Hope you can come in the day before even if you need to use another airline. > yes i will try my best :) i am supposed to collect my VISA tomorrow. cheers ravindra From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 15:08:21 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Thu May 3 13:35:01 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <1178130753.4032.39.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> <2c9aeb960705020646n1111b5d2nad3a1e403fc3383a@mail.gmail.com> <4638B5DA.9020807@pc.jaring.my> <1178113430.4008.25.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46397F57.1020703@pc.jaring.my> <1178130753.4032.39.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <46398A65.3020506@pc.jaring.my> Even if they don't give you a visa, you can actually apply for a visa at KLIA . Let us know and we'll facilitate that at airport. Rgds, Molly Ravindra De Silva wrote: >>Hope you can come in the day before even if you need to use another airline. >> >> >> > >yes i will try my best :) >i am supposed to collect my VISA tomorrow. > >cheers >ravindra > > > > > From JJulian at oasishospital.org Thu May 3 12:21:00 2007 From: JJulian at oasishospital.org (Jerry Julian) Date: Thu May 3 13:37:31 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription Message-ID: <7a465db0.1c78d3a.817d2fd.29@oasishospital.org> Hi Molly, I will send my flight details today, I am still waiting for the confirmation of the flight. Thanks, Jerry -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Molly Cheah Sent: Thursday, 03 May, 2007 4:55 AM To: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription Jerry, You have yet to provide us with your flight info in the reg form. Without flight information "or" payment of reg fees we would not be able to reg you formally or book your hotel room. Please do so asap. Look forward to see you in KL. Molly Jerry Julian wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to subscribe for the OSHCA Conference 2007. I have > already sent my registration form for the conference I hope you get it. > > Regards, > > *JERRY B. JULIAN* > Information Technology Dept. > OASIS HOSPITAL, P.O.Box 1016 > Al Ain, United Arab Emirates > > _______________________ > Tel.: +971 3 7014 160 > Fax: +971 3 7222 007 > Mobile: +971 50 6934954 > eMail: jjulian@oasis.smart.net > Web: www.oasishospital.org > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 >2:57 PM > > _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants From JJulian at oasishospital.org Thu May 3 14:24:00 2007 From: JJulian at oasishospital.org (Jerry Julian) Date: Thu May 3 13:37:32 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription Message-ID: Hi Molly, Here is my registration form with my flight details, I am flying with ETIHAD airways, Please find it in the Reg Form. The payment will be made upon my arrival in KL. Please let me know any update about my registration and accomodation. Thanks and Regards, Jerry -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Molly Cheah Sent: Thursday, 03 May, 2007 4:55 AM To: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription Jerry, You have yet to provide us with your flight info in the reg form. Without flight information "or" payment of reg fees we would not be able to reg you formally or book your hotel room. Please do so asap. Look forward to see you in KL. Molly Jerry Julian wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to subscribe for the OSHCA Conference 2007. I have > already sent my registration form for the conference I hope you get it. > > Regards, > > *JERRY B. JULIAN* > Information Technology Dept. > OASIS HOSPITAL, P.O.Box 1016 > Al Ain, United Arab Emirates > > _______________________ > Tel.: +971 3 7014 160 > Fax: +971 3 7222 007 > Mobile: +971 50 6934954 > eMail: jjulian@oasis.smart.net > Web: www.oasishospital.org > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >- > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 >2:57 PM > > _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: conference-reg_form-002.doc Type: application/msword Size: 72192 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070503/92532b10/conference-reg_form-002-0001.doc From tchur at optusnet.com.au Thu May 3 09:44:05 2007 From: tchur at optusnet.com.au (Tim Churches) Date: Thu May 3 13:37:39 2007 Subject: [participants] Paying for OSHCA Conference 2007 and membership Message-ID: <200705030144.l431i5ua029755@mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au> Molly Cheah wrote: > > Jerry, > > You have yet to provide us with your flight info in the reg form. > Without flight information "or" payment of reg fees we would not be able > to reg you formally or book your hotel room. Presumably we will be able to pay for accomodation at the conference hotel via credit card. What about the conference registration fees and OSHCA membership fees? Or is cash preferred? Ringgits or will you take US dollars, Euros (or even Aussie dollars? Just need to know how much cash to convert or to draw from an automatic teller machine at the airport). Direct deposit into the OSHCA account from Australia incurs rather expensive conversion fees. Tim C From wross at minformatics.com Thu May 3 11:25:21 2007 From: wross at minformatics.com (will ross) Date: Thu May 3 13:38:27 2007 Subject: [participants] To Tim C in KL Message-ID: Tim, As one who is already at the facility, can you please brief us on the State of Internet Access? Is Bhaskar right, do we have to bring our own network cables? Or does the Federal Hotel have decent wifi in our meeting facilities? With best regards, [wr] - - - - - - - - will ross chief information officer mendocino informatics 216 west perkins street, suite 206 ukiah, california 95482 usa 707.462.6369 [office] 707.462.5015 [fax] www.minformatics.com - - - - - - - - From tanboonteck at gmail.com Thu May 3 15:25:21 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Thu May 3 13:51:36 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms Message-ID: Dear all, For those of you that are still sending in forms as the details get more concrete, please rename your files to include your own name at the end. Mainstream OS filesystems has not advanced to the stage of being able to automagically segregate files with different contents but similar filenames. :-| Thank you for your cooperation. Regards, -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 15:28:11 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Thu May 3 13:54:55 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46398F0B.4000907@pc.jaring.my> Thank you for your registration. We'll book hotel for you from 8-13 May. Please see archives for instructions to hotel. If not clear, post request to the list and someone will answer you. Jason, take note. Look forward to see you in KL. Molly Jerry Julian wrote: >Hi Molly, > >Here is my registration form with my flight details, I am flying with ETIHAD airways, Please find it in the Reg Form. > >The payment will be made upon my arrival in KL. > >Please let me know any update about my registration and accomodation. > >Thanks and Regards, >Jerry > >-----Original Message----- >From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Molly Cheah >Sent: Thursday, 03 May, 2007 4:55 AM >To: OSHCA Conference participants >Subject: Re: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription > >Jerry, > >You have yet to provide us with your flight info in the reg form. >Without flight information "or" payment of reg fees we would not be able to reg you formally or book your hotel room. > >Please do so asap. > >Look forward to see you in KL. > >Molly >Jerry Julian wrote: > > > >>Hi, >> >>I would like to subscribe for the OSHCA Conference 2007. I have >>already sent my registration form for the conference I hope you get it. >> >>Regards, >> >>*JERRY B. JULIAN* >>Information Technology Dept. >>OASIS HOSPITAL, P.O.Box 1016 >>Al Ain, United Arab Emirates >> >>_______________________ >>Tel.: +971 3 7014 160 >>Fax: +971 3 7222 007 >>Mobile: +971 50 6934954 >>eMail: jjulian@oasis.smart.net >>Web: www.oasishospital.org >> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- >> >>_______________________________________________ >>participants mailing list >>participants@oshca.org >>http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 >>2:57 PM >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 15:33:52 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Thu May 3 14:00:37 2007 Subject: [participants] Paying for OSHCA Conference 2007 and membership In-Reply-To: <200705030144.l431i5ua029755@mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200705030144.l431i5ua029755@mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <46399060.8090306@pc.jaring.my> Tim Churches wrote: >Molly Cheah wrote: > > >>Jerry, >> >>You have yet to provide us with your flight info in the reg form. >>Without flight information "or" payment of reg fees we would not be able >>to reg you formally or book your hotel room. >> >> > >Presumably we will be able to pay for accomodation at the conference hotel via credit card. > Yes. >What about the conference registration fees > MYR350 is for conference fees in ringgit >and OSHCA membership fees? Or is cash preferred? > Yes, based on HDI of country and ordinary or Associate Member. (someone please post details?) >Ringgits or will you take US dollars, Euros (or even Aussie dollars? > Prefer ringgit as OSHCA acc is in ringgit. >Just need to know how much cash to convert or to draw from an automatic teller machine at the airport). Direct deposit into the OSHCA account from Australia incurs rather expensive conversion fees. > > There are banks in KLIA with good rates. Incidently the MYR is appreciating against the USD... >Tim C > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > From nssreekanth at gmail.com Thu May 3 16:23:09 2007 From: nssreekanth at gmail.com (sreekanth ns) Date: Thu May 3 14:49:25 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <46398A65.3020506@pc.jaring.my> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> <2c9aeb960705020646n1111b5d2nad3a1e403fc3383a@mail.gmail.com> <4638B5DA.9020807@pc.jaring.my> <1178113430.4008.25.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46397F57.1020703@pc.jaring.my> <1178130753.4032.39.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46398A65.3020506@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <88285a390705030123y707e860ap47aaa5645d5b3ef4@mail.gmail.com> All, I am Sreekanth form India and also a participant for the OSHCA-07 I did not get my Visa so far, I heard about a facility of avaling visa on arrival at Kula lumpur airpot, what you suggest about it ? is it risky ? if not what is the procedure ? it would be very helpful to me if could advise me on the same -- N.S Sreekanth Open Source Software Division (OSSD) C-DAC Mumbai- Raintreemarg, Sector 7 CBD Bellapur- 400 614 Ph(Off): +91-22-27565303/304/305 Ext-319 Mob: +91-99 67 355 625 On 5/3/07, Molly Cheah wrote: > > Even if they don't give you a visa, you can actually apply for a visa at > KLIA . > > Let us know and we'll facilitate that at airport. > > Rgds, > Molly > Ravindra De Silva wrote: > > >>Hope you can come in the day before even if you need to use another > airline. > >> > >> > >> > > > >yes i will try my best :) > >i am supposed to collect my VISA tomorrow. > > > >cheers > >ravindra > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070503/8e74cde7/attachment.htm From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 16:32:22 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Thu May 3 14:59:09 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <88285a390705030123y707e860ap47aaa5645d5b3ef4@mail.gmail.com> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> <2c9aeb960705020646n1111b5d2nad3a1e403fc3383a@mail.gmail.com> <4638B5DA.9020807@pc.jaring.my> <1178113430.4008.25.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46397F57.1020703@pc.jaring.my> <1178130753.4032.39.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46398A65.3020506@pc.jaring.my> <88285a390705030123y707e860ap47aaa5645d5b3ef4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46399E16.3060602@pc.jaring.my> There are airport facilities for "on the spot application for visa on arrival". We'll facilitate that for you or anyone who has problems with visa. After arrival at terminal C, take the skytrain to main building of KLIA and while walking towards the immigration and baggage claims, there is a counter on the right with clear signs Immigration Visa application (or words to that effect.) Even putting the purpose of visit as social will secure you a visa. Anyone else who wish to avail themselves of this facilities please inform us. Usually there is no problem.... Molly sreekanth ns wrote: > All, > I am Sreekanth form India and also a participant for the OSHCA-07 > I did not get my Visa so far, I heard about a facility of > avaling visa on arrival at Kula lumpur airpot, > what you suggest about it ? is it risky ? > if not what is the procedure ? > it would be very helpful to me if could advise me on the same > -- > N.S Sreekanth > Open Source Software Division (OSSD) > C-DAC Mumbai- Raintreemarg, > Sector 7 CBD Bellapur- 400 614 > Ph(Off): +91-22-27565303/304/305 Ext-319 > Mob: +91-99 67 355 625 > > > On 5/3/07, *Molly Cheah* > wrote: > > Even if they don't give you a visa, you can actually apply for a > visa at > KLIA . > > Let us know and we'll facilitate that at airport. > > Rgds, > Molly > Ravindra De Silva wrote: > > >>Hope you can come in the day before even if you need to use > another airline. > >> > >> > >> > > > >yes i will try my best :) > >i am supposed to collect my VISA tomorrow. > > > >cheers > >ravindra > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > From tanboonteck at gmail.com Thu May 3 17:10:12 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Thu May 3 15:36:27 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Tours Message-ID: Tour Packages http://www.yajitravel.com/ To obtain details of the available packages click on the [Clients Login] tab and log in with user: yaji password: yaji7224 The prices indicated are for 2 pax. They have informed me that if you can group together for economies of scale, they are willing to bring down the price. Yaji Travel will set up a booth throughout the conference at the Federal Hotel, to serve you. I would suggest you guys band together and negotiate with them. If you need suggestions and opinions, I'm sure the Malaysian residents or those who have been here can help out. Regards, Jason Tan Logistics Committee -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From ravindra at opensource.lk Thu May 3 05:22:44 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Thu May 3 16:18:59 2007 Subject: [participants] Volunteers Needed In-Reply-To: <1178142351.6242.23.camel@oship> References: <1178142351.6242.23.camel@oship> Message-ID: <1178140964.4032.67.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > Banquet hall > Pahang Suite > Selangor Suite > Day 1 > 1400-1730 I volunteer for the sessions in the Banquet hall from 1400-1730 on Day 1 > 1400-1730 > 1400-1730 > Liaison Name: cheers ravindra From michelsub2003 at yahoo.com Thu May 3 18:03:26 2007 From: michelsub2003 at yahoo.com (Michael Bauwens) Date: Thu May 3 16:29:41 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription In-Reply-To: <46398F0B.4000907@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <94402.39780.qm@web50810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Just to make sure my own data are fine as well. I'll be arriving, as an outside speaker, on the 8th staying on the ninth when I speak leaving on the 10th hope everything is okay with the room already I will be booking my own flight with air asia, Michel --- Molly Cheah wrote: > Thank you for your registration. We'll book hotel > for you from 8-13 > May. Please see archives for instructions to hotel. > If not clear, post > request to the list and someone will answer you. > > Jason, take note. > > Look forward to see you in KL. > > Molly > Jerry Julian wrote: > > >Hi Molly, > > > >Here is my registration form with my flight > details, I am flying with ETIHAD airways, Please > find it in the Reg Form. > > > >The payment will be made upon my arrival in KL. > > > >Please let me know any update about my registration > and accomodation. > > > >Thanks and Regards, > >Jerry > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: participants-bounces@oshca.org > [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of > Molly Cheah > >Sent: Thursday, 03 May, 2007 4:55 AM > >To: OSHCA Conference participants > >Subject: Re: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - > Subrcription > > > >Jerry, > > > >You have yet to provide us with your flight info in > the reg form. > >Without flight information "or" payment of reg fees > we would not be able to reg you formally or book > your hotel room. > > > >Please do so asap. > > > >Look forward to see you in KL. > > > >Molly > >Jerry Julian wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I would like to subscribe for the OSHCA Conference > 2007. I have > >>already sent my registration form for the > conference I hope you get it. > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>*JERRY B. JULIAN* > >>Information Technology Dept. > >>OASIS HOSPITAL, P.O.Box 1016 > >>Al Ain, United Arab Emirates > >> > >>_______________________ > >>Tel.: +971 3 7014 160 > >>Fax: +971 3 7222 007 > >>Mobile: +971 50 6934954 > >>eMail: jjulian@oasis.smart.net > >>Web: www.oasishospital.org > >> > >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>- > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>participants mailing list > >>participants@oshca.org > >>http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > >> > >> > >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>- > >> > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - > Release Date: 5/1/2007 > >>2:57 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >participants mailing list > >participants@oshca.org > >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >participants mailing list > >participants@oshca.org > >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - > Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > The P2P Foundation researches, documents and promotes peer to peer alternatives. Wiki and Encyclopedia, at http://p2pfoundation.net; Blog, at http://blog.p2pfoundation.net; Newsletter, at http://integralvisioning.org/index.php?topic=p2p Basic essay at http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=499; interview at http://poynder.blogspot.com/2006/09/p2p-very-core-of-world-to-come.html; video interview, at http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2006/09/29/network_collaboration_peer_to_peer.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From linuxrescue at gmail.com Thu May 3 19:51:40 2007 From: linuxrescue at gmail.com (Visal Doeuk) Date: Thu May 3 18:17:55 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: participants Digest, Vol 2, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: <4639b110.0caaecd5.5fa4.ffff8c1aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <4639b110.0caaecd5.5fa4.ffff8c1aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Dear All, I am Visal from Cambodia. I just have got many mails from you all. Could you please let us know well about: How many participants? Please list name of them to us. It can clarify the participants numbers and make us ease to prepare some gift for them. Waiting for name of all. Sincerely, Visal On 5/3/07, participants-request@oshca.org wrote: > > Send participants mailing list submissions to > participants@oshca.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > participants-request@oshca.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > participants-owner@oshca.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of participants digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Paying for OSHCA Conference 2007 and membership (Tim Churches) > 2. To Tim C in KL (will ross) > 3. OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms (Jason Tan Boon Teck) > 4. Re: OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription (Molly Cheah) > 5. Re: Paying for OSHCA Conference 2007 and membership (Molly Cheah) > 6. Re: Reception (informal) Information (sreekanth ns) > 7. Re: Reception (informal) Information (Molly Cheah) > 8. OSHCA Conference 2007 - Tours (Jason Tan Boon Teck) > 9. Re: Volunteers Needed (Ravindra De Silva) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 11:44:05 +1000 > From: Tim Churches > Subject: [participants] Paying for OSHCA Conference 2007 and > membership > To: OSHCA Conference participants > Cc: OSHCA Conference participants > Message-ID: <200705030144.l431i5ua029755@mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Molly Cheah wrote: > > > > Jerry, > > > > You have yet to provide us with your flight info in the reg form. > > Without flight information "or" payment of reg fees we would not be able > > to reg you formally or book your hotel room. > > Presumably we will be able to pay for accomodation at the conference hotel > via credit card. What about the conference registration fees and OSHCA > membership fees? Or is cash preferred? Ringgits or will you take US dollars, > Euros (or even Aussie dollars? Just need to know how much cash to convert or > to draw from an automatic teller machine at the airport). Direct deposit > into the OSHCA account from Australia incurs rather expensive conversion > fees. > > Tim C > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 20:25:21 -0700 > From: will ross > Subject: [participants] To Tim C in KL > To: OSHCA Conference participants > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Tim, > > As one who is already at the facility, can you please brief us on the > State of Internet Access? Is Bhaskar right, do we have to bring our > own network cables? Or does the Federal Hotel have decent wifi in > our meeting facilities? > > With best regards, > > [wr] > > - - - - - - - - > > will ross > chief information officer > mendocino informatics > 216 west perkins street, suite 206 > ukiah, california 95482 usa > 707.462.6369 [office] > 707.462.5015 [fax] > www.minformatics.com > > - - - - - - - - > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 15:25:21 +0800 > From: "Jason Tan Boon Teck" > Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms > To: "OSHCA Conference participants" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear all, > > > For those of you that are still sending in forms as the details get > more concrete, please rename your files to include your own name at > the end. Mainstream OS filesystems has not advanced to the stage of > being able to automagically segregate files with different contents > but similar filenames. :-| > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > > Regards, > > > -- > Jason Tan Boon Teck > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 15:28:11 +0800 > From: Molly Cheah > Subject: Re: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription > To: Jerry Julian > Cc: OSHCA Conference participants > Message-ID: <46398F0B.4000907@pc.jaring.my> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thank you for your registration. We'll book hotel for you from 8-13 > May. Please see archives for instructions to hotel. If not clear, post > request to the list and someone will answer you. > > Jason, take note. > > Look forward to see you in KL. > > Molly > Jerry Julian wrote: > > >Hi Molly, > > > >Here is my registration form with my flight details, I am flying with > ETIHAD airways, Please find it in the Reg Form. > > > >The payment will be made upon my arrival in KL. > > > >Please let me know any update about my registration and accomodation. > > > >Thanks and Regards, > >Jerry > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto: > participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Molly Cheah > >Sent: Thursday, 03 May, 2007 4:55 AM > >To: OSHCA Conference participants > >Subject: Re: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Subrcription > > > >Jerry, > > > >You have yet to provide us with your flight info in the reg form. > >Without flight information "or" payment of reg fees we would not be able > to reg you formally or book your hotel room. > > > >Please do so asap. > > > >Look forward to see you in KL. > > > >Molly > >Jerry Julian wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I would like to subscribe for the OSHCA Conference 2007. I have > >>already sent my registration form for the conference I hope you get it. > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>*JERRY B. JULIAN* > >>Information Technology Dept. > >>OASIS HOSPITAL, P.O.Box 1016 > >>Al Ain, United Arab Emirates > >> > >>_______________________ > >>Tel.: +971 3 7014 160 > >>Fax: +971 3 7222 007 > >>Mobile: +971 50 6934954 > >>eMail: jjulian@oasis.smart.net > >>Web: www.oasishospital.org > >> > >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>- > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>participants mailing list > >>participants@oshca.org > >>http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > >> > >> > >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>- > >> > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 > >>2:57 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >participants mailing list > >participants@oshca.org > >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >participants mailing list > >participants@oshca.org > >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 > 2:57 PM > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 15:33:52 +0800 > From: Molly Cheah > Subject: Re: [participants] Paying for OSHCA Conference 2007 and > membership > To: tchur@optusnet.com.au, OSHCA Conference participants > > Message-ID: <46399060.8090306@pc.jaring.my> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Tim Churches wrote: > > >Molly Cheah wrote: > > > > > >>Jerry, > >> > >>You have yet to provide us with your flight info in the reg form. > >>Without flight information "or" payment of reg fees we would not be able > >>to reg you formally or book your hotel room. > >> > >> > > > >Presumably we will be able to pay for accomodation at the conference > hotel via credit card. > > > > Yes. > > >What about the conference registration fees > > > > MYR350 is for conference fees in ringgit > > >and OSHCA membership fees? Or is cash preferred? > > > Yes, based on HDI of country and ordinary or Associate Member. (someone > please post details?) > > >Ringgits or will you take US dollars, Euros (or even Aussie dollars? > > > Prefer ringgit as OSHCA acc is in ringgit. > > >Just need to know how much cash to convert or to draw from an automatic > teller machine at the airport). Direct deposit into the OSHCA account from > Australia incurs rather expensive conversion fees. > > > > > > There are banks in KLIA with good rates. Incidently the MYR is > appreciating against the USD... > > >Tim C > > > >_______________________________________________ > >participants mailing list > >participants@oshca.org > >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 13:53:09 +0530 > From: "sreekanth ns" > Subject: Re: [participants] Reception (informal) Information > To: "OSHCA Conference participants" > Message-ID: > <88285a390705030123y707e860ap47aaa5645d5b3ef4@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > All, > I am Sreekanth form India and also a participant for the OSHCA-07 > I did not get my Visa so far, I heard about a facility of avaling > visa on arrival at Kula lumpur airpot, > what you suggest about it ? is it risky ? > if not what is the procedure ? > it would be very helpful to me if could advise me on the same > -- > N.S Sreekanth > Open Source Software Division (OSSD) > C-DAC Mumbai- Raintreemarg, > Sector 7 CBD Bellapur- 400 614 > Ph(Off): +91-22-27565303/304/305 Ext-319 > Mob: +91-99 67 355 625 > > > On 5/3/07, Molly Cheah wrote: > > > > Even if they don't give you a visa, you can actually apply for a visa at > > KLIA . > > > > Let us know and we'll facilitate that at airport. > > > > Rgds, > > Molly > > Ravindra De Silva wrote: > > > > >>Hope you can come in the day before even if you need to use another > > airline. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >yes i will try my best :) > > >i am supposed to collect my VISA tomorrow. > > > > > >cheers > > >ravindra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070503/8e74cde7/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 16:32:22 +0800 > From: Molly Cheah > Subject: Re: [participants] Reception (informal) Information > To: OSHCA Conference participants > Message-ID: <46399E16.3060602@pc.jaring.my> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > There are airport facilities for "on the spot application for visa on > arrival". We'll facilitate that for you or anyone who has problems with > visa. > > After arrival at terminal C, take the skytrain to main building of KLIA > and while walking towards the immigration and baggage claims, there is a > counter on the right with clear signs Immigration Visa application (or > words to that effect.) Even putting the purpose of visit as social will > secure you a visa. > Anyone else who wish to avail themselves of this facilities please > inform us. Usually there is no problem.... > > Molly > sreekanth ns wrote: > > > All, > > I am Sreekanth form India and also a participant for the > OSHCA-07 > > I did not get my Visa so far, I heard about a facility of > > avaling visa on arrival at Kula lumpur airpot, > > what you suggest about it ? is it risky ? > > if not what is the procedure ? > > it would be very helpful to me if could advise me on the same > > -- > > N.S Sreekanth > > Open Source Software Division (OSSD) > > C-DAC Mumbai- Raintreemarg, > > Sector 7 CBD Bellapur- 400 614 > > Ph(Off): +91-22-27565303/304/305 Ext-319 > > Mob: +91-99 67 355 625 > > > > > > On 5/3/07, *Molly Cheah* > > wrote: > > > > Even if they don't give you a visa, you can actually apply for a > > visa at > > KLIA . > > > > Let us know and we'll facilitate that at airport. > > > > Rgds, > > Molly > > Ravindra De Silva wrote: > > > > >>Hope you can come in the day before even if you need to use > > another airline. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >yes i will try my best :) > > >i am supposed to collect my VISA tomorrow. > > > > > >cheers > > >ravindra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >participants mailing list > >participants@oshca.org > >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 > 2:57 PM > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 17:10:12 +0800 > From: "Jason Tan Boon Teck" > Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Tours > To: "OSHCA Conference participants" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Tour Packages > > http://www.yajitravel.com/ > > To obtain details of the available packages click on the [Clients > Login] tab and log in with > > user: yaji > password: yaji7224 > > The prices indicated are for 2 pax. They have informed me that if you > can group together for economies of scale, they are willing to bring > down the price. > > Yaji Travel will set up a booth throughout the conference at the > Federal Hotel, to serve you. I would suggest you guys band together > and negotiate with them. If you need suggestions and opinions, I'm > sure the Malaysian residents or those who have been here can help out. > > > Regards, > > Jason Tan > Logistics Committee > > -- > Jason Tan Boon Teck > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 02:52:44 +0530 > From: Ravindra De Silva > Subject: Re: [participants] Volunteers Needed > To: tw_cook@comcast.net, OSHCA Conference participants > > Message-ID: <1178140964.4032.67.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > Banquet hall > > Pahang Suite > > Selangor Suite > > Day 1 > > 1400-1730 > > I volunteer for the sessions in the Banquet hall from 1400-1730 on Day 1 > > > 1400-1730 > > 1400-1730 > > Liaison Name: > > > cheers > ravindra > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > End of participants Digest, Vol 2, Issue 14 > ******************************************* > -- LinuxRescue (at) Cambodia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am in the waiting list on a flight that arrives early on 8th in KL. then i can obtain the VISA on 7th and come. right now its the most convenient method and i am more comfortable with bringing the VISA than on arrival. otherwise i have the earlier booked flight on 7th , but i did not pay for it still as i was not sure of obtaining the VISA on 7th. tomorrow i will make the decision after visiting the high commission. thanks a lot for your support and encouragement! cheers ravindra From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu May 3 21:52:54 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Thu May 3 20:19:31 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: FOLLOW-UP ON EARLIER INQUIRIES In-Reply-To: <3c6717fa0705030514l5847bc7r5e69304f6862220@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c6717fa0705030514l5847bc7r5e69304f6862220@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4639E936.5010808@pc.jaring.my> Francisco Sarmiento III wrote: > Dear Sir or Madam: > > We would appreciate a prompt reply. > > We are ready to email the OSHCA registration forms of the workshop > participants. > > However, before doing that, we wish to clarify the following: > > 1. Those who are arriving on May 07 at 0035H will be transferred > directly to Federal Hotel upon arrival at KLIA. To avoid confusion on > their CHECK-IN TIME in the form, would they indicate May 06 or May 07 > as their CHECK-IN TIME? I understand hotels have their billeting > system based on a different time reckoning. Please enlighten us on > this to minimize billing problems. We will make arrangement for this transfer direct to hotel if arrival is late. See schedule from LCCT http://www.skybus.com.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3&Itemid=4 In your example above, check-in date should be May 07. You don't need to specify time of check-in as we will have your arrival date and time. The hotel will check you in regardless of time of arrival if the room is available. (e.g. arrival date is May07 and check-in is from 2pm. However, if you arrive at 9 am and a room is available then, the hotel will check you in, thereby saving you one day hotel rate.) > > 2. We have not gotten our replies to the questions we posted from our > previous emails. Such as wiring payments directly to Federal Hotel, > customs limits in bringing in cash into Malaysia, etc. We would > appreciate answers on this. > Bringing foreign currency into Malaysia (e.g USD You need not declare if you're bringing in MYR1,000 or less or foreign currency and/or travellers checks of USD2,500 or less You need to declare if you bring in more than MYR1,000 or foreign currency and travellers check of more than USD2,500 In other words there is no limit to bringing in foreign currency but you need to declare. However, you need approval if you want to take out of Malaysia more than what you bring into Malaysia, provided the amount taken out is more than the equivalent of USD2,500.. > > Thank you for your attention. > > > With kind regards, > > Francis From mikeymckay at gmail.com Thu May 3 23:06:05 2007 From: mikeymckay at gmail.com (Mike McKay) Date: Thu May 3 21:32:36 2007 Subject: [participants] Hardware manufactureres in KL Message-ID: <4639FA5D.3090405@gmail.com> Hi everyone, As a quick introduction - I am Mike and will be coming to the conference from Malawi Africa. The situation of 1 million HIV positive people and almost no trained health care workers presents some serious challenges. We do realtime touchscreen data capture by health care workers using ruby on rails and javascript. I will be presenting - so I look forward to lots of feedback and new ideas from this group. While in KL, I will also be trying to meet with hardware manufacturers so that I can hopefully design and procure a new low cost clinical workstation. Instead of one laptop per child - think one touchscreen per health care worker. Molly has kindly offered to show off our current touchscreen to manufacturers to see what they can build and to make introductions for me. As my time is limited, I will need to be very efficient with my schedule. Can anybody in KL suggest manufacturers that I can meet with and ideally, people that I could get in contact with by email tomorrow, so they will be prepared for me next week? Thanks! Mike McKay http://www.baobabhealth.org From tchur at optushome.com.au Fri May 4 05:23:35 2007 From: tchur at optushome.com.au (Tim Churches) Date: Fri May 4 03:50:23 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <4639E365.4000707@defoam.net> References: <4638D1D0.2040603@fnf.com> <4638FCD5.3050204@optushome.com.au> <4638FD9E.90208@fnf.com> <463903CE.8080005@optushome.com.au> <4639E365.4000707@defoam.net> Message-ID: <463A52D7.8090801@optushome.com.au> Adrian Midgley wrote: > I will bring my Sony Minidisc recorder, which may be useful for audio. I've had excellent results recording a seminar in a large room using a Sony Minidisc recorder and an omnidirectional condensor mike - picks up speaker, audience questions etc. But then I found that it was impossible to download the resulting digital recording from the device due to Sony copy-protection/DRM safeguards. I was dumbstruck. Have they fixed that problem? There was a flood of complaints from end users who discovered the same thing. I returned the machine to the shop and demanded a refund. > I hope there are plenty of power sockets and trailing mains leads. And gaffer (duct) tape... > I'd like us to turn out a bound book... Are you offering to edit and typeset it, Adrian? Producing a book is not a minor undertaking. I think that putting the conference material up on a Web site with enough bandwidth to allow satisfactory downloads is a higher priority. Improving the current OSHCA Web server arrangements will be a topic of discussion. Tim C From francis.sarmiento3 at gmail.com Thu May 3 16:39:13 2007 From: francis.sarmiento3 at gmail.com (Francisco Sarmiento III) Date: Fri May 4 11:17:22 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <88285a390705030123y707e860ap47aaa5645d5b3ef4@mail.gmail.com> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> <2c9aeb960705020646n1111b5d2nad3a1e403fc3383a@mail.gmail.com> <4638B5DA.9020807@pc.jaring.my> <1178113430.4008.25.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46397F57.1020703@pc.jaring.my> <1178130753.4032.39.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46398A65.3020506@pc.jaring.my> <88285a390705030123y707e860ap47aaa5645d5b3ef4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3c6717fa0705030139t1608e204tb5470425ce1ead96@mail.gmail.com> Dear Sreekanth, It seems that the OSHCA reg form that I sent to you along with Tushar Mathews and MR Rajagopalan did not reach you. I'm sending it again. Our apologies for the inconvenience. Best regards, Francis -- Francisco "Francis" E. Sarmiento III, MD Project Support Officer UNDP-International Open Source Network ASEAN+3 Sub-Regional Node University of the Philippines Manila-National Telehealth Center 3rd Floor I.T. Complex, Dietary Building, PGH Compound Taft Avenue, 1000 MANILA, Philippines Telefax no: +00 63 2 5256501 Mobile: +63 915 8501111 Website: www.iosn.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2007-04-07_conference-reg_form-002.odt Type: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text Size: 12572 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070503/b9de6ea6/2007-04-07_conference-reg_form-002-0001.bin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To what extent that affects other travellers from other places I don't know, but be aware of it. -- Adrian Midgley [1] Red Bordeaux From amidgley2 at defoam.net Thu May 3 19:08:15 2007 From: amidgley2 at defoam.net (Dr Adrian Midgley (In the office)) Date: Fri May 4 11:17:23 2007 Subject: [participants] Paying for OSHCA Conference 2007 and membership In-Reply-To: <200705030144.l431i5ua029755@mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200705030144.l431i5ua029755@mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <4639C29F.1080805@defoam.net> Tim Churches wrote: > Ringgits or will you take US dollars, Euros (or even Aussie dollars? ... Direct deposit into the OSHCA account from Australia incurs rather expensive conversion fees. One day OSHCA may have accounts in several currencies, but at the moment a risk of taking other currencies is of OSHCA paying the conversion fees. Easier in-country though I'm sure. -- Adrian Midgley From tw_cook at comcast.net Fri May 4 12:36:20 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Fri May 4 11:17:23 2007 Subject: [participants] Daily Conference Schedule Update Message-ID: <1178253380.3383.39.camel@oship> Skipped content of type multipart/mixed-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070504/de94cd75/attachment-0001.pgp From tw_cook at comcast.net Fri May 4 12:40:47 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Fri May 4 11:17:23 2007 Subject: [participants] Abstracts Update Message-ID: <1178253647.3383.40.camel@oship> Skipped content of type multipart/mixed-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I hope there are plenty of power sockets and trailing mains leads. I'd like us to turn out a bound book... -- A From wross at mendocinohre.org Fri May 4 13:43:19 2007 From: wross at mendocinohre.org (Will Ross) Date: Fri May 4 12:09:52 2007 Subject: [participants] Daily Conference Schedule Update In-Reply-To: <1178253380.3383.39.camel@oship> References: <1178253380.3383.39.camel@oship> Message-ID: tim, please disambiguate the location of session 13: pahang suite or banquet hall? with best regards, [wr] - - - - - - - - On May 3, 2007, at 9:36 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > Read, Plan and enjoy! > > Tim > > PS. Any comments, criticisms (egads - errors!) please let me know. > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants [wr] - - - - - - - - will ross chief information officer mendocino health records exchange 216 west perkins street, suite 206 ukiah, california 95482 usa 707.462.6369 [office] 707.462.5015 [fax] www.mendocinohre.org - - - - - - - - "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 - - - - - - - - From aizat.faiz at gmail.com Fri May 4 14:36:42 2007 From: aizat.faiz at gmail.com (Ezwan Aizat Bin Abdullah Faiz) Date: Fri May 4 13:02:47 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <463903CE.8080005@optushome.com.au> References: <4638D1D0.2040603@fnf.com> <4638FCD5.3050204@optushome.com.au> <4638FD9E.90208@fnf.com> <463903CE.8080005@optushome.com.au> Message-ID: On 5/3/07, Tim Churches wrote: > Or video? A digital video camera on a tripod, with a plug-in condensor > mike works well and is fuss-free. It is tedious to convert the videos > later but the actual recording is easy. A little ffmpeg magic, and let it run in the background, then upload to google video. If you do decide video tape, I only request that it be released under a Creative Commons license :) Regards, Aizat -- aizatto - sleep, to the power of z -_-;;^zzz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bhaskar" wrote: > The VistA Free / Open Source Software stack is VistA > on GT.M on Linux. > Anyone who wishes to do so will have the opportunity > to leave Kuala > Lumpur able to run the VistA FOSS stack. The VistA > FOSS Stack Clinic > starts at 1600 on Day 2 (Wednesday, May 9) and is > scheduled till 1730, > but will continue as long as needed - I will > personally commit to > getting the software up and running on your x86 > based laptop/PC.* > > There are three approaches to getting the stack > installed: > > 1. The Brain Transplant approach is to install Linux > on your PC's hard > drive, either over an existing Windows partition, or > into a new > partition. If you want to install into a new > partition to be carved out > of your Windows partition, please defragment your > Windows *before* you > come to the clinic, and ensure that you have at > least 3GB of free space. > Also, back up any valuable files in your Windows > partition, including > possibly the entire partition: to date, I have not > lost a Windows > partition during a Linux install, and we would all > prefer not to have > your PC be the first one. Once Linux is installed, > we will install > VistA & GT.M. [If your PC is already running Linux, > please make sure > you have at least 1.2GB free space.] > > 2. In the VivitA live CD approach, the hard drive on > your disk is > untouched. When you want to run VistA, you boot > your PC with a live CD > that includes the entire VistA FOSS stack. The > read/write storage for > the database is provided by a USB flash drive (1GB > minimum). The > advantage of this technique is that you can run this > on your laptop in > KL, take it home, and run it on a different PC > there. > > 3. In the Toaster approach, your Windows / Mac > machine runs an emulator > or virtual PC that runs the VistA FOSS stack. This > is the most flexible > approach, but is not suitable for production use. > If you want to use > this approach, please bring a USB flash drive (2GB > minimum) or ensure > that you have at least 2GB available on your hard > drive. > > I personally went with the brain transplant approach > on my laptop. > > If you have questions, please e-mail the list (reply > to this e-mail) and > I will answer - it is likely that someone else has > the same question. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > > * Caveat: Just because it's so easy to install the > VistA FOSS stack and > get it up an running in a matter of minnutes doesn't > mean that you will > have a fully functional VistA implementation. VistA > requires > configuration for your institution. > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From nandalalx at yahoo.com Fri May 4 19:07:08 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Fri May 4 17:33:08 2007 Subject: [participants] Congratulations to OSHCA organizers In-Reply-To: <000001c78ce4$15fb4790$41f1d6b0$@com> Message-ID: <14550.26596.qm@web58712.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I totally agree with you, and I have more inside info on her efforts, knowing her before the confernece was planned. OSCHA is now a registered organization entirely due to her efforts. Nandalal --- Xavier Gonzalez Alonso wrote: > After reading the so many 'urgent' queries from > participants and kind > answers from the organizers of the 2007 OSHCA > Conference, I just had this > need to congratulate Molly et al, for your warmth, > patience and - I would > say - heroic commitment to the organization of this > important international > event. > > > > So, from a little farther away than 'the other side > of the world' (13 hours > time difference in Southern Mexico), please receive > my recognition. I am > sure all participants greatly appreciate your > efforts and will be very > pleased to meet you and say this in person next > week... > > > > Best, > > Xavier Gonzalez > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From nandalalx at yahoo.com Fri May 4 19:09:21 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Fri May 4 17:35:22 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <1178130753.4032.39.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <457227.27029.qm@web58712.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi Ravindra. When are you supposed to fly? Nandalal --- Ravindra De Silva wrote: > > Hope you can come in the day before even if you > need to use another airline. > > > > yes i will try my best :) > i am supposed to collect my VISA tomorrow. > > cheers > ravindra > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail From nandalalx at yahoo.com Fri May 4 19:15:13 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Fri May 4 17:41:13 2007 Subject: [participants] SWAG In-Reply-To: <1178140456.6242.8.camel@oship> Message-ID: <133689.59701.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> SWAG Stuff We All Get or Stuff WE Ain't Got. :-) --- Tim Cook wrote: > > "In popular culture, the term swag now usually > refers to promotional > items or gifts that are given away by companies or > organizations. It can > also simply be used as a slang term for desirable > items in general." > > There will be tables available for you to distribute > CDs, brochures, > etc. The tables are 2 feet wide and 8 feet long. I > assume we can likely > accommodate 2 - 3 different displays on a table. > > Please let us know if you will need space and if so > approx. how much. > > Cheers, > Tim > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nandalalx at yahoo.com Fri May 4 19:33:14 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Fri May 4 17:59:14 2007 Subject: [participants] Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: <1178169583.10997.47.camel@oship> Message-ID: <706508.38012.qm@web58710.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Are we all supposed to send these using the "new" files or is it only for those who have NOT registered yet? nandalal --- Tim Cook wrote: > All, > > There are now three new conference registration > files on the OSHCA > website. See: > http://www.oshca.org/conference/oshca2007/ > > The three files are each in a different format for > your convenience. > Otherwise they are the same. > > 1. MSWord > 2. OpenOffice 2.x > 3. OpenOffice 1.x > > The instructions (which appear with as a description > for each file) are > as follows: > -------------------------------------------- > This is the conference registration form for > OSHCA2007. Please download > this file. Open it in yur word processor. Complete > all of the questions > and fill in all the blanks. Then chose File, Save > As, then where > prompted for a filename replace the word 'yourname' > with your personal > name. Note the location you saved this file then > email it back to > conference@oshca.org. Thank you. > ------------------------------------------- > > If you are uncertain how to complete the form or > follow these > instructions then ask a colleague first if no help > there then ask on the > mailing lists. > > ***NOTE*** If you have ALREADY COMPLETED the form > and sent it in then > you DO NOT need to complete one of these. > > Regards, > Tim Cook (for a frustrated Jason) :-> > > > On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 11:27 +0800, Jason Tan Boon > Teck wrote: > > Dear Tim, > > > > > > Could you please upload these files and publish > them. > > > > Downloading and renaming (95%) of the files > received is driving me > > insane. Hopefully the user would understand to > rename the files before > > sending. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From tanboonteck at gmail.com Fri May 4 19:35:20 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Fri May 4 18:01:20 2007 Subject: [participants] Fwd: KL Sentral Taxi counter Info (Important) In-Reply-To: <319467.67991.qm@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <319467.67991.qm@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Siti Fara Date: May 4, 2007 7:33 PM Subject: KL Sentral Taxi counter Info (Important) To: tanboonteck@gmail.com Dear Jason, Please forward this email to your conference mailing list because I cannot find how to include my email in the said list. Thank you. For those of you whose taking KLIA Express, upon arrival at KL Sentral Arrival Hall, please proceed to Budget Taxi counter with OSCHA signage in front of it. For those of you who are taking the bus from LCCT, upon arrival at the KL Sentral, proceed to the taxi coupon counter with OSCHA signage in front of it. KL Sentral uses taxi coupon system where the taxi fares is fixed and must be paid at the counter before you board the taxi. Just mention the name of the hotel that you are staying and the clerk will tell you the price. Taxis around Kuala Lumpur runs on meter, so please make sure that the driver uses the meter and refuse those who don't. If you encounter any problem with the driver, please take down the taxi number and report to the secretariat. For taxi bookings using phone call, an extra RM 2 is charged. For Airport trips, an extra RM12 is charged. Taxi bookings through telephone can be done by calling any one of these companies: Comfort Cab 03-8024 2727 Public Cab 03-6259 2020 Thank you. Regards, Siti Faradilah Aslah Destination Transport (M) Sdn Bhd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From tw_cook at comcast.net Fri May 4 19:38:14 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Fri May 4 18:04:33 2007 Subject: [participants] Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: <706508.38012.qm@web58710.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <706508.38012.qm@web58710.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1178278694.3383.97.camel@oship> On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 04:33 -0700, Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: > Are we all supposed to send these using the "new" > files or is it only for those who have NOT registered > yet? > > nandalal READ ALL and yea shall be enlightened. > > > ***NOTE*** If you have ALREADY COMPLETED the form > > and sent it in then > > you DO NOT need to complete one of these. > Cheers, Tim > --- Tim Cook wrote: > > > All, > > > > There are now three new conference registration > > files on the OSHCA > > website. See: > > http://www.oshca.org/conference/oshca2007/ > > > > The three files are each in a different format for > > your convenience. > > Otherwise they are the same. > > > > 1. MSWord > > 2. OpenOffice 2.x > > 3. OpenOffice 1.x > > > > The instructions (which appear with as a description > > for each file) are > > as follows: > > -------------------------------------------- > > This is the conference registration form for > > OSHCA2007. Please download > > this file. Open it in yur word processor. Complete > > all of the questions > > and fill in all the blanks. Then chose File, Save > > As, then where > > prompted for a filename replace the word 'yourname' > > with your personal > > name. Note the location you saved this file then > > email it back to > > conference@oshca.org. Thank you. > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > If you are uncertain how to complete the form or > > follow these > > instructions then ask a colleague first if no help > > there then ask on the > > mailing lists. > > > > ***NOTE*** If you have ALREADY COMPLETED the form > > and sent it in then > > you DO NOT need to complete one of these. > > > > Regards, > > Tim Cook (for a frustrated Jason) :-> > > > > > > On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 11:27 +0800, Jason Tan Boon > > Teck wrote: > > > Dear Tim, > > > > > > > > > Could you please upload these files and publish > > them. > > > > > > Downloading and renaming (95%) of the files > > received is driving me > > > insane. Hopefully the user would understand to > > rename the files before > > > sending. > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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When are you supposed to fly? good question! i was just about to ask you. the reason is, from yesterday onwards Colombo airport is closed from 10 p.m to 4 a.m. Hence all the night flights are canceled. unfortunately my final flight confirmation was for a flight that leaves SL at 1.30 a.m. on 8th and thats re-scheduled to 8.30 a.m morning on 8th. If you also had a flight at night it must have been rescheduled. if not when are you flying? but i am on the waiting list on all the flights on 7th and 8th and hopefully i can come on time for the conference. right now as it is i will be coming on the afternoon of 8th. > > > Hope you can come in the day before even if you > > need to use another airline. > > > > > > > yes i will try my best :) > > i am supposed to collect my VISA tomorrow. I managed to collect my VISA among the floods in the city. these two days it took me 4 hours to reach the office opposed to usual 1/2 hour. its very difficult to give a definitive word these days with so many uncertainties :( cheers ravindra From wross at mendocinohre.org Fri May 4 20:41:08 2007 From: wross at mendocinohre.org (Will Ross) Date: Fri May 4 19:07:34 2007 Subject: [participants] arrival at KLIA, 1430 hrs, 7 May Message-ID: Am flying in on Singapore Airlines, arriving early Monday afternoon. Anyone else arriving at KLIA on Monday afternoon? Unfortunately my cell phone will not work in Asia (because I have a small regional cell carrier) so I will be off of that leash. Can temporary phones be purchased at KLIA with prepaid minutes? [wr] ps, the prior OSHCA I attended, 2002 in Los Angeles, I shared a shuttle with Wayne Wilson from LAX to UCLA. - - - - - - - - will ross chief information officer mendocino health records exchange 216 west perkins street, suite 206 ukiah, california 95482 usa 707.462.6369 [office] 707.462.5015 [fax] www.mendocinohre.org - - - - - - - - "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 - - - - - - - - From ravindra at opensource.lk Fri May 4 20:47:48 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Fri May 4 19:10:45 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <480123.47252.qm@web58702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <480123.47252.qm@web58702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1178282868.4121.26.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > The problem you may have to resolve is finding GT.M > programmers in asia or convincing them that it is a > useful language to learn. > > Otherwise it is going to be difficult to push for it's > use in a government health setting. I tend to agree on this from a programmers perspective. Usually we enjoy learning a new technology/language when there are a lot of applications. No offense , but unfortunately in this case the experience/knowledge we gain from installing/customizing will not be of that much use for other opportunities. and of course most of the programmers like to say they have 5 years experience in JAVA, C ++,PHP,ect. and i wonder how would that be here. How ever, for a person who specializes in health care i think this is one of the best. just my 2 cents. cheers ravindra From tw_cook at comcast.net Fri May 4 21:12:22 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Fri May 4 19:38:42 2007 Subject: [participants] Request for a Speaker Message-ID: <1178284342.3383.108.camel@oship> All, We have had a speaker cancel today. The session is a workshop on PHP CAKE. We would like to have someone whether already speaking or not, fill-in with a presentation/demo/instruction as you wish on PHP CAKE or something related. The slot is Workshop #18 1445-1530 on 11 May. 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Selvaraju Nandalal Jayantha de Livera Gunaratne Bauwens, Michael GK Ganesan Kasinathan Pascual, Marvin Khairil Yusof Lauesen, William Alan See Seah Hong Yee Robin Hoo Mike McCoy Chacko, James George Many thanks. -- Jason Tan Boon Teck -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: conference-reg_form-002_yourname.odt Type: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text Size: 17854 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070504/709cea74/conference-reg_form-002_yourname-0001.bin From mikeymckay at gmail.com Fri May 4 21:58:16 2007 From: mikeymckay at gmail.com (Mike McKay) Date: Fri May 4 20:24:44 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <463B3BF8.3020706@gmail.com> Jason, Any chance Mike McCoy is the same as Mike McKay? If so - I have already sent in my registration form. Otherwise, I am looking forward to meeting somebody with so fine sounding a name... ;-) Mike McKAY www.baobabhealth.org Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > Dear all, > > > I do not seem to have the registration form from the following > persons. My apologies if you have already done so, as I have been > inundated with countless files. Could please send them to me, after > renaming them? > > Selvaraju > Nandalal Jayantha de Livera Gunaratne > Bauwens, Michael > GK Ganesan Kasinathan > Pascual, Marvin > Khairil Yusof > Lauesen, William > Alan See > Seah Hong Yee > Robin Hoo > Mike McCoy > Chacko, James George > > Many thanks. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants From tanboonteck at gmail.com Fri May 4 22:02:40 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Fri May 4 20:28:58 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: <463B3BF8.3020706@gmail.com> References: <463B3BF8.3020706@gmail.com> Message-ID: He could be the real McCoy. :-P On 5/4/07, Mike McKay wrote: > Jason, > > Any chance Mike McCoy is the same as Mike McKay? If so - I have already > sent in my registration form. Otherwise, I am looking forward to meeting > somebody with so fine sounding a name... ;-) > > Mike McKAY > www.baobabhealth.org > > Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > > > I do not seem to have the registration form from the following > > persons. My apologies if you have already done so, as I have been > > inundated with countless files. Could please send them to me, after > > renaming them? > > > > Selvaraju > > Nandalal Jayantha de Livera Gunaratne > > Bauwens, Michael > > GK Ganesan Kasinathan > > Pascual, Marvin > > Khairil Yusof > > Lauesen, William > > Alan See > > Seah Hong Yee > > Robin Hoo > > Mike McCoy > > Chacko, James George > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From dalmolin at e-cology.ca Fri May 4 22:07:39 2007 From: dalmolin at e-cology.ca (Joseph Dal Molin) Date: Fri May 4 20:30:34 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: <463B3BF8.3020706@gmail.com> References: <463B3BF8.3020706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <463B3E2B.1060309@e-cology.ca> No... Mike McCoy is a different person whom I am sure you will enjoy meeting :-) Joseph Mike McKay wrote: > Jason, > > Any chance Mike McCoy is the same as Mike McKay? If so - I have already > sent in my registration form. Otherwise, I am looking forward to meeting > somebody with so fine sounding a name... ;-) > > Mike McKAY > www.baobabhealth.org > > Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> >> I do not seem to have the registration form from the following >> persons. My apologies if you have already done so, as I have been >> inundated with countless files. Could please send them to me, after >> renaming them? >> >> Selvaraju >> Nandalal Jayantha de Livera Gunaratne >> Bauwens, Michael >> GK Ganesan Kasinathan >> Pascual, Marvin >> Khairil Yusof >> Lauesen, William >> Alan See >> Seah Hong Yee >> Robin Hoo >> Mike McCoy >> Chacko, James George >> >> Many thanks. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> participants mailing list >> participants@oshca.org >> http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > . > From tw_cook at comcast.net Fri May 4 22:27:23 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Fri May 4 20:53:45 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: <463B3E2B.1060309@e-cology.ca> References: <463B3BF8.3020706@gmail.com> <463B3E2B.1060309@e-cology.ca> Message-ID: <1178288843.3383.133.camel@oship> On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 10:07 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > No... Mike McCoy is a different person whom I am sure you will enjoy > meeting :-) > > Joseph That is true. Mike is a very nice person from my short meeting with him. However, we still don't know if he is coming since we do not have a registration form yet. It is difficult to plan for his arrival and accommodation with it. If yu have contact with him or anyone else on that list please let them know this is urgent. Thank You, Tim Cook -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070504/8068c88c/attachment.pgp From ks.bhaskar at fnf.com Fri May 4 22:28:53 2007 From: ks.bhaskar at fnf.com (K.S. Bhaskar) Date: Fri May 4 20:55:01 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <1178282868.4121.26.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <480123.47252.qm@web58702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <1178282868.4121.26.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <463B4325.3050500@fnf.com> M (MUMPS, of which GT.M is an implementation) is a relatively straightforward third generation language with the flavor of BASIC, awk or perl. There are no obstacles to a programmer picking up a manual and learning to program M in short order. You will likely not find experienced M programmers by advertising in the pages of your local newspaper. But if VistA as a free / open source health care information system is a compelling application, and you have competent local programmers, getting them to pick up M is the least of your concerns. Regards -- Bhaskar Ravindra De Silva wrote, On 05/04/2007 08:47 AM: > > > The problem you may have to resolve is finding GT.M > > programmers in asia or convincing them that it is a > > useful language to learn. > > > > Otherwise it is going to be difficult to push for it's > > use in a government health setting. > > I tend to agree on this from a programmers perspective. > Usually we enjoy learning a new technology/language when there are > a lot of applications. No offense , but unfortunately in this case the > experience/knowledge we gain from installing/customizing will not be of > that much use for other opportunities. and of course most of the > programmers like to say they have 5 years experience in JAVA, C > ++,PHP,ect. and i wonder how would that be here. How ever, for a person > who specializes in health care i think this is one of the best. > just my 2 cents. > > cheers > ravindra From jerichorivera at gmail.com Fri May 4 22:51:15 2007 From: jerichorivera at gmail.com (Jericho Rivera) Date: Fri May 4 21:17:16 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 Message-ID: To the OSHCA2007 Organizers, I would like to commend the efforts that the entire organizing committee has extended for the success of this event. I am already eager to meet the best minds of the FOSS World. Hoping that I can apply the things I can learn there in our own region. Since this is my first OSHCA Conference participation, will there be conference kits for each participant? Jericho Rivera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We don't know of any yet so do count on too much. ;-) The best part though is to be able to meet and get to know some of the most knowledgeable people in health informatics and open source software all at one time. Now how cool is that? :-) You must be one of those people since you are attending an OSHCA conference!!!! See You Soon, Tim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There are no obstacles to a programmer picking up a manual and > learning to program M in short order. yes i agree > You will likely not find experienced M programmers by advertising in the > pages of your local newspaper. But if VistA as a free / open source > health care information system is a compelling application, and you have > competent local programmers, getting them to pick up M is the least of > your concerns. yes i strongly agree VISTA is one of the best health care systems. I guess Dr. Nandalal was just trying to highlight a practicality he faced in sri lanka , and i was just giving my opinions as a programmer and sorry if it meant otherwise :) and i am really looking forward to learn about VISA and GT.M cheers ravindra http://r4vi.org ....... All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. -- Sean O'Casey From hongyee at hongyee.org Sat May 5 00:04:45 2007 From: hongyee at hongyee.org (Seah Hong Yee) Date: Fri May 4 22:25:07 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I did already send it to nan phin. On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > Dear all, > > > I do not seem to have the registration form from the following > persons. My apologies if you have already done so, as I have been > inundated with countless files. Could please send them to me, after > renaming them? > > Selvaraju > Nandalal Jayantha de Livera Gunaratne > Bauwens, Michael > GK Ganesan Kasinathan > Pascual, Marvin > Khairil Yusof > Lauesen, William > Alan See > Seah Hong Yee > Robin Hoo > Mike McCoy > Chacko, James George > > Many thanks. > > -- > Jason Tan Boon Teck > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants From CamSchlehuber at cox.net Sat May 5 01:38:01 2007 From: CamSchlehuber at cox.net (Cameron Schlehuber) Date: Sat May 5 00:03:57 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic References: <480123.47252.qm@web58702.mail.re1.yahoo.com><1178282868.4121.26.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <463B4325.3050500@fnf.com> Message-ID: <00eb01c78e72$f73acbb0$0200a8c0@CameronS> Bhaskar is quite correct, especially regarding VistA. Even the most average programmer can learn all the commands and functions in M in about a day. What takes months of study of the available documentation as well as trial and error experience is to learn how to make good use of the services and application interfaces. But that's really only necessary if the intention is to make programming modifications. The REAL effort lies with the Clinical Application Coordinator whose responsibility is to configure the choices the system offers for maximum benfit. And the problem here is that the amount of documentation on the applications is simply enormous. Succinct documentation and brief introduction material is still lacking. (Part of the reason for that is that the working knowledge has built up over the years and the users aren't as aware of what they've learned and need to pass on in print to others.) There are several other anomalies with regard to M. M programmers tend to have lower salaries than those who program in Java, C, etc. And there are certainly fewer M programmers. M is just plain easy to learn. The experience in the US Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) has been that it is far easier to train clinically or administratively knowledgeable people in M (and in the VistA architecture) than it is to train an M programmer to have clinical or administrative knowledge. Another factor contributing to the number of M programmers and their average salaries is that it's just plain more efficient. VA has for years measured functionality and productivity using Function Points. The number of developers necessary to bring to production code written in VistA/M ranges from one half to one fifth of the number that VA is throwing at Java/SQL based projects. While counting "lines of code" is somewhat akin to counting the number of boards it takes a carpenter to erect a building (a bad carpenter can mangle a lot of lumber), line counts can give a rough sense of how much code there is to maintain. Estimates for VistA (on the M side) are that there are roughly 2,000,000 "lines" of code (or about 10,000,000 commands). There are about a dozen GUI's (CPRS and Imaging being the flagships, with others such as Vitals, Clinical Case Registry, etc). CPRS has about 500,000 command lines in Delphi. The number of M programmers actually maintaining VistA are between 20 and 50 (depending on what you count as a "programmer"). Similar higher productivity ratios with M are seen in other industries as well. System performance of M based systems has also proven to be a major competitive advantage. For organizations with lots of money and managers with the desire to build an IT empire, M is not the best choice. Cameron Schlehuber ----- Original Message ----- From: "K.S. Bhaskar" To: ; "OSHCA Conference participants" Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic >M (MUMPS, of which GT.M is an implementation) is a relatively >straightforward third generation language with the flavor of BASIC, awk or >perl. There are no obstacles to a programmer picking up a manual and >learning to program M in short order. > > You will likely not find experienced M programmers by advertising in the > pages of your local newspaper. But if VistA as a free / open source > health care information system is a compelling application, and you have > competent local programmers, getting them to pick up M is the least of > your concerns. > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > > Ravindra De Silva wrote, On 05/04/2007 08:47 AM: >> >> > The problem you may have to resolve is finding GT.M >> > programmers in asia or convincing them that it is a >> > useful language to learn. >> > >> > Otherwise it is going to be difficult to push for it's >> > use in a government health setting. >> >> I tend to agree on this from a programmers perspective. >> Usually we enjoy learning a new technology/language when there are >> a lot of applications. No offense , but unfortunately in this case the >> experience/knowledge we gain from installing/customizing will not be of >> that much use for other opportunities. and of course most of the >> programmers like to say they have 5 years experience in JAVA, C >> ++,PHP,ect. and i wonder how would that be here. How ever, for a person >> who specializes in health care i think this is one of the best. >> just my 2 cents. >> >> cheers >> ravindra > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants From veryeh77 at hotmail.com Fri May 4 23:42:09 2007 From: veryeh77 at hotmail.com (veryeh sambu) Date: Sat May 5 04:27:19 2007 Subject: [participants] Attachment for Registration Message-ID: Hi! I am veryeh Sambu from Muhimbli and Harvard Project in Dar es Salaam-Tanzania as Computer Programmer and I am Interested to attend the meeting,so I am attach the registration for and also I am ask about fund for travel,accomodation and conference cost,also for living allowance. Thanks Veryeh _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Lauesen >Bahrain > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/787 - Release Date: 5/3/2007 2:11 PM > > From tw_cook at comcast.net Sat May 5 06:18:19 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Sat May 5 04:44:24 2007 Subject: [participants] Abstracts Message-ID: <1178317099.3383.167.camel@oship> The latet abstracts update is here: http://www.oshca.org/Members/twcook/oshca2007_Abstracts.pdf/view Please compare the session id's to the schedule. If you find any mistakes please let me know. Also, if you are a presenter and you see that there is a blank where your abstract should be that meas I do not have it. Please help me by sending one in today. Thank You, Tim Cook PS. 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Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 - - - - - - - - From tw_cook at comcast.net Sat May 5 06:54:37 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Sat May 5 05:20:41 2007 Subject: [participants] Workshops Message-ID: <1178319277.3383.172.camel@oship> Just to avoid any confusion. The organization InWEnt has sponsored the Day 4 workshops and several studentships to go with them. BUT! This does not exclude anyone from attending those workshops. If you are attending the conference you are welcome to attend the developer workshops as well. Tim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Tim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070504/082c1608/attachment.pgp From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Sat May 5 08:07:14 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sat May 5 06:33:33 2007 Subject: [participants] Member Section of Portal In-Reply-To: <8ED879E4-1F79-4CCE-BC58-1BCBB9BE0BF1@mendocinohre.org> References: <1178316747.3383.162.camel@oship> <8ED879E4-1F79-4CCE-BC58-1BCBB9BE0BF1@mendocinohre.org> Message-ID: <463BCAB2.8070009@pc.jaring.my> Will, Right now, only OSHCA Committee Members and those who are helping to update the portal have access to the portal. The web-portal development committee (if its functional) has to refine the rules, regulations and use of the portal in the current web-portal manual (that is in the intranet) for use of members (?in benefit or otherwise) because the portal serves as the "home" and "management office" of OSHCA. In other words, OSHCA is managed electronically and everything about OSHCA is in the web-portal, including mailing lists, digitized documents etc, members list, membership forms etc The different office bearers of OSHCA need to be familiar with their roles AND responsibilities to ensure that what they post to the portal, whether that should be for public consumption, members only (like minutes of AGM, Annual reports, Accounts), Committee members only (like Committee minutes), Auditors only (like invoices, account entries etc) and so on are clearly and properly defined. This has not been done. Please be patient as we hope to have an opportunity to do this in a session "Getting OSHCA organised" whether internally or working with other organisations such as yours. Rgds, Molly Will Ross wrote: > How does a member get an account on the OSHCA portal? > > [wr] > > - - - - - - - - > > will ross > chief information officer > mendocino health records exchange > 216 west perkins street, suite 206 > ukiah, california 95482 usa > 707.462.6369 [office] > 707.462.5015 [fax] > www.mendocinohre.org > > - - - - - - - - > > "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." > Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 > > - - - - - - - - > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Sat May 5 08:31:59 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sat May 5 06:58:20 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Membership Message-ID: <463BD07F.1090903@pc.jaring.my> Dear all participants, I would like to take this opportunity, on behalf of the OSHCA Committee, to attach the OSHCA membership application form for your use. The OSHCA Committee made the decision that financial support for travel will only be given to those who are or become OSHCA members. Acceptance of such support means you agree to become OSHCA members, if you are not yet members. In order to facilitate the process, please complete the form (if you have not already done so or not yet a member) and submit it (please name the completed file as per instruction in the form) and return it to secretariat@oshca.org (NOT to this list, please). We will deduct your membership fee dues from the reimbursements that you are entitled to as per guidelines UNLESS otherwise proposed and agreed to by you. There were exceptions made (applicable to many from both developed and developing countries) to accommodate additional participants especially from developing countries. We thank you for supporting OSHCA and to meeting one of the objectives of this conference too. See you all in Kuala Lumpur. 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There is another George James - George James Chacko. :-) Regards, jason tan On 5/4/07, George James wrote: > > > Jason > You must have my form somewhere as that's the only way you could have even > got my name! > > Anyway, I've renamed it and attached it for you. > > Regards > George > > George James Software > 42-44 High Street > Shepperton > TW17 9AU > United Kingdom > > +44-1932-252568 > www.georgejames.com > > > ________________________________ > From: George James > Sent: 30 April 2007 17:40 > To: 'conference@oshca.org' > Cc: 'drcheah@pc.jaring.my' > Subject: OSHCA Conference Registration > > > > Registration form attached. > > > Regards > George > > George James Software > 42-44 High Street > Shepperton > TW17 9AU > United Kingdom > > +44-1932-252568 > www.georgejames.com > > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From tanboonteck at gmail.com Sat May 5 09:28:31 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Sat May 5 07:54:23 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Hong Yee, Could please send it to us, since Nan Phin did not manage to forward that. Thanks. Jason Tan On 5/5/07, Seah Hong Yee wrote: > I did already send it to nan phin. > > > On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I do not seem to have the registration form from the following > > persons. My apologies if you have already done so, as I have been > > inundated with countless files. Could please send them to me, after > > renaming them? > > > > Selvaraju > > Nandalal Jayantha de Livera Gunaratne > > Bauwens, Michael > > GK Ganesan Kasinathan > > Pascual, Marvin > > Khairil Yusof > > Lauesen, William > > Alan See > > Seah Hong Yee > > Robin Hoo > > Mike McCoy > > Chacko, James George > > > > Many thanks. > > > > -- > > Jason Tan Boon Teck > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From tanboonteck at gmail.com Sat May 5 10:46:06 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Sat May 5 09:11:59 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Pick up Message-ID: Dear Francis, We are arranging a van (or 2) to pick the trainees coming in to the LCCT past midnight of Sunday and Tuesday. As the flight from Manila is bringing in 14 people, we will need 2 vans. If we fail to secure 2 vans that night, then we will make 2 trips to ferry them to the Federal Hotel. I will be personally coming along to greet them, and thus they can buy me dinner later. :-) Nobody else seems to be coming in on the graveyard shift, so please direct them to take the public transport on their own. For KLIA, please use the Express Rail Link (ERL) and from the LCCT, there are buses outside the arrival hall that goes to KL Sentral. AirAsia is running one of the bus service called Sky Bus. There are competitors providing the same service as well. And don't forget, buy the RM10 coupons at the KL Sentral to get taxi to the Federal Hotel. Regards, -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From ks.bhaskar at fnf.com Sat May 5 12:15:28 2007 From: ks.bhaskar at fnf.com (K.S. Bhaskar) Date: Sat May 5 10:41:45 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <4639BC2F.5020506@defoam.net> References: <1178075454.3715.21.camel@oship> <4639BC2F.5020506@defoam.net> Message-ID: <463C04E0.4080306@fnf.com> Pennsylvania is not exactly known for its fine wines (we're beer drinkers), but I have picked up a bottle of Chaddsford 2002 Cabernet Sauvignon for what it's worth. -- Bhaskar Dr Adrian Midgley (In the office) wrote, On 05/03/2007 06:40 AM: > Will Ross wrote: > > as i live in california wine country, i plan to bring a nice bottle. > > our cool north pacific coastal appellation specializes in alsatian > > varietals: > > I'm routed through Paris, perhaps I can snag a bottle of Claret1[1] en > passant. > > Our security state has gone from relaxed to paranoid+ recently so any > fluids I bring will have to be in the hold baggage, or have been > purchased on the airside of the last departure airport. To what extent > that affects other travellers from other places I don't know, but be > aware of it. > > -- > Adrian Midgley > > [1] Red Bordeaux > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Sat May 5 13:16:28 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sat May 5 11:42:45 2007 Subject: [participants] Countries in the Yellow Fever-Endemic Zone Message-ID: <463C132C.5080705@pc.jaring.my> *Countries in the Yellow Fever-Endemic Zone - African and South American countries. http://www2.ncid.cdc.gov/travel/yb/utils/ybGet.asp?section=dis&obj=yellowfever.htm Dear participants, If you are from one of the countries with Yellow Fever - Endemic Zone, I assume that you are aware that you needed to be vaccinated before you leave for international trips. Please let us know immediately if you are from such countries and your immunization status. Rgds, Molly * From tusharm at cdac.in Sat May 5 13:39:25 2007 From: tusharm at cdac.in (Tushar Mathew) Date: Sat May 5 12:05:16 2007 Subject: [participants] Hi from IOSN SA Message-ID: A big hello to all from the IOSN South Asia Node ! I'm Tushar Abraham Mathew, Programme Manager and I will be attending the conference along with Mr. M.R. Rajagopalan (Director) and Mr. Sreekanth N.S. (Project Engineer, Open Source Software Division). Ravindra, we're already in touch with Chamindra De Silva and Sheran Corera from the Sahana Team; so looking forward to meeting you and all the others. Expecting meaningful dialogues and partnerships so as to create a "healthier" world ! Regards, Tushar. From tusharm at cdac.in Sat May 5 13:39:48 2007 From: tusharm at cdac.in (Tushar Mathew) Date: Sat May 5 12:05:37 2007 Subject: [participants] Hi from IOSN SA Message-ID: A big hello to all from the IOSN South Asia Node ! I'm Tushar Abraham Mathew, Programme Manager and I will be attending the conference along with Mr. M.R. Rajagopalan (Director) and Mr. Sreekanth N.S. (Project Engineer, Open Source Software Division). Ravindra, we're already in touch with Chamindra De Silva and Sheran Corera from the Sahana Team; so looking forward to meeting you and all the others. Expecting meaningful dialogues and partnerships so as to create a "healthier" world ! Regards, Tushar. From Chris.Seebregts at mrc.ac.za Sat May 5 13:53:56 2007 From: Chris.Seebregts at mrc.ac.za (Chris Seebregts) Date: Sat May 5 12:20:08 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <463C04E0.4080306@fnf.com> Message-ID: <7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A19D35D@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> Hi Everyone I will be attending the OSHCA meeting next week and want to say a few words of introduction. My name is Chris Seebregts; I live and work in South Africa and participate in the OpenMRS collaborative (www.openmrs.org ). Hopefully, I will be joined by our other colleagues and collaborators, Daniel Kayiwa (Uganda), Morris Mathebula (from HISP, South Africa) and Mike McKay (Malawi). I look forward to meeting the members of OSHCA and learning more about FOSS in healthcare. I will also be bringing a good red and a good white from our well-known Cape winelands to share with anyone wanting a taste of Africa! Best wishes Chris =================================================================== Chris Seebregts, PhD Biomedical Informatics Research Division, Medical Research Council Graduate Program in Medical Informatics, University of KwaZulu-Natal South Africa Voice: (mobile): +27 82 461 5556; (office): +27 21 938 0318; (skype): chris.seebregts Fax: +27 21 938 0526; Postal: PO Box 19070, Tygerberg 7505, South Africa ======================================================================== ====== -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of K.S. Bhaskar Sent: 05 May 2007 06:15 To: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] Reception (informal) Information Pennsylvania is not exactly known for its fine wines (we're beer drinkers), but I have picked up a bottle of Chaddsford 2002 Cabernet Sauvignon for what it's worth. -- Bhaskar Dr Adrian Midgley (In the office) wrote, On 05/03/2007 06:40 AM: > Will Ross wrote: > > as i live in california wine country, i plan to bring a nice bottle. > > our cool north pacific coastal appellation specializes in alsatian > > varietals: > > I'm routed through Paris, perhaps I can snag a bottle of Claret1[1] en > passant. > > Our security state has gone from relaxed to paranoid+ recently so any > fluids I bring will have to be in the hold baggage, or have been > purchased on the airside of the last departure airport. To what extent > that affects other travellers from other places I don't know, but be > aware of it. > > -- > Adrian Midgley > > [1] Red Bordeaux > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants -- This e-mail and its contents are subject to the South African Medical Research Council e-mail legal notice available at http://www.mrc.ac.za/about/EmailLegalNotice.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070505/38da831f/attachment.htm From nandalalx at yahoo.com Sat May 5 17:30:25 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Sat May 5 15:56:15 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <463B4325.3050500@fnf.com> Message-ID: <650952.88562.qm@web58714.mail.re1.yahoo.com> --- "K.S. Bhaskar" wrote: > pages of your local newspaper. But if VistA as a > free / open source > health care information system is a compelling > application, and you have > competent local programmers, getting them to pick up > M is the least of > your concerns. Glad to hear that ;-) I do not know any programming, except a little python maybe. Hm! i could start with GT.M! Nandalal > > Regards > -- Bhaskar > > Ravindra De Silva wrote, On 05/04/2007 08:47 AM: > > > > > The problem you may have to resolve is finding > GT.M > > > programmers in asia or convincing them that it > is a > > > useful language to learn. > > > > > > Otherwise it is going to be difficult to push > for it's > > > use in a government health setting. > > > > I tend to agree on this from a programmers > perspective. > > Usually we enjoy learning a new > technology/language when there are > > a lot of applications. No offense , but > unfortunately in this case the > > experience/knowledge we gain from > installing/customizing will not be of > > that much use for other opportunities. and of > course most of the > > programmers like to say they have 5 years > experience in JAVA, C > > ++,PHP,ect. and i wonder how would that be here. > How ever, for a person > > who specializes in health care i think this is one > of the best. > > just my 2 cents. > > > > cheers > > ravindra > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nandalalx at yahoo.com Sat May 5 17:34:15 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Sat May 5 16:00:05 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <648423.59898.qm@web58713.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I send it to registration@oscha.org myself. But please help Jason by resending, as I did. Nandalal --- Seah Hong Yee wrote: > I did already send it to nan phin. > > > On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Jason Tan Boon Teck > wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I do not seem to have the registration form from > the following > > persons. My apologies if you have already done so, > as I have been > > inundated with countless files. Could please send > them to me, after > > renaming them? > > > > Selvaraju > > Nandalal Jayantha de Livera Gunaratne > > Bauwens, Michael > > GK Ganesan Kasinathan > > Pascual, Marvin > > Khairil Yusof > > Lauesen, William > > Alan See > > Seah Hong Yee > > Robin Hoo > > Mike McCoy > > Chacko, James George > > > > Many thanks. > > > > -- > > Jason Tan Boon Teck > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nandalalx at yahoo.com Sat May 5 17:40:53 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Sat May 5 16:06:42 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <00eb01c78e72$f73acbb0$0200a8c0@CameronS> Message-ID: <180889.96136.qm@web58712.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I have tried the numerous live CDs produced by Bhashkar, and one he kindly posted to me. But I could not get going on it and do anything. It boils down to the fact that there has to be a "Getting Started with VistA" doc, and a tutorial to actually use it; add a doctor, then a patient by that doctor, and finally add some info to the patient - clinical, operation, radiology report and pathology report perhaps. This will get us going, and maybe there will be no stopping us! Nandalal --- Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > Bhaskar is quite correct, especially regarding > VistA. Even the most average > programmer can learn all the commands and functions > in M in about a day. > What takes months of study of the available > documentation as well as trial > and error experience is to learn how to make good > use of the services and > application interfaces. But that's really only > necessary if the intention > is to make programming modifications. The REAL > effort lies with the > Clinical Application Coordinator whose > responsibility is to configure the > choices the system offers for maximum benfit. And > the problem here is that > the amount of documentation on the applications is > simply enormous. > Succinct documentation and brief introduction > material is still lacking. > (Part of the reason for that is that the working > knowledge has built up over > the years and the users aren't as aware of what > they've learned and need to > pass on in print to others.) > > There are several other anomalies with regard to M. > M programmers tend to > have lower salaries than those who program in Java, > C, etc. And there are > certainly fewer M programmers. M is just plain easy > to learn. The > experience in the US Department of Veterans Affairs > (VA) has been that it is > far easier to train clinically or administratively > knowledgeable people in M > (and in the VistA architecture) than it is to train > an M programmer to have > clinical or administrative knowledge. Another > factor contributing to the > number of M programmers and their average salaries > is that it's just plain > more efficient. > > VA has for years measured functionality and > productivity using Function > Points. The number of developers necessary to bring > to production code > written in VistA/M ranges from one half to one fifth > of the number that VA > is throwing at Java/SQL based projects. While > counting "lines of code" is > somewhat akin to counting the number of boards it > takes a carpenter to erect > a building (a bad carpenter can mangle a lot of > lumber), line counts can > give a rough sense of how much code there is to > maintain. Estimates for > VistA (on the M side) are that there are roughly > 2,000,000 "lines" of code > (or about 10,000,000 commands). There are about a > dozen GUI's (CPRS and > Imaging being the flagships, with others such as > Vitals, Clinical Case > Registry, etc). CPRS has about 500,000 command > lines in Delphi. The number > of M programmers actually maintaining VistA are > between 20 and 50 (depending > on what you count as a "programmer"). Similar > higher productivity ratios > with M are seen in other industries as well. System > performance of M based > systems has also proven to be a major competitive > advantage. For > organizations with lots of money and managers with > the desire to build an IT > empire, M is not the best choice. > > Cameron Schlehuber > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K.S. Bhaskar" > To: ; "OSHCA Conference > participants" > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:28 AM > Subject: Re: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic > > > >M (MUMPS, of which GT.M is an implementation) is a > relatively > >straightforward third generation language with the > flavor of BASIC, awk or > >perl. There are no obstacles to a programmer > picking up a manual and > >learning to program M in short order. > > > > You will likely not find experienced M programmers > by advertising in the > > pages of your local newspaper. But if VistA as a > free / open source > > health care information system is a compelling > application, and you have > > competent local programmers, getting them to pick > up M is the least of > > your concerns. > > > > Regards > > -- Bhaskar > > > > Ravindra De Silva wrote, On 05/04/2007 08:47 AM: > >> > >> > The problem you may have to resolve is finding > GT.M > >> > programmers in asia or convincing them that it > is a > >> > useful language to learn. > >> > > >> > Otherwise it is going to be difficult to push > for it's > >> > use in a government health setting. > >> > >> I tend to agree on this from a programmers > perspective. > >> Usually we enjoy learning a new > technology/language when there are > >> a lot of applications. No offense , but > unfortunately in this case the > >> experience/knowledge we gain from > installing/customizing will not be of > >> that much use for other opportunities. and of > course most of the > >> programmers like to say they have 5 years > experience in JAVA, C > >> ++,PHP,ect. and i wonder how would that be here. > How ever, for a person > >> who specializes in health care i think this is > one of the best. > >> just my 2 cents. > >> > >> cheers > >> ravindra > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From tanboonteck at gmail.com Sat May 5 18:12:42 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Sat May 5 16:38:33 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: <648423.59898.qm@web58713.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <648423.59898.qm@web58713.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ahh, perhaps this why I didn't receive your file earlier. Thank you for the resend. jason On 5/5/07, Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: > I send it to registration@oscha.org myself. But please > help Jason by resending, as I did. > > Nandalal > --- Seah Hong Yee wrote: > > > I did already send it to nan phin. > > > > > > On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Jason Tan Boon Teck > > wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > I do not seem to have the registration form from > > the following > > > persons. My apologies if you have already done so, > > as I have been > > > inundated with countless files. Could please send > > them to me, after > > > renaming them? > > > > > > Selvaraju > > > Nandalal Jayantha de Livera Gunaratne > > > Bauwens, Michael > > > GK Ganesan Kasinathan > > > Pascual, Marvin > > > Khairil Yusof > > > Lauesen, William > > > Alan See > > > Seah Hong Yee > > > Robin Hoo > > > Mike McCoy > > > Chacko, James George > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > -- > > > Jason Tan Boon Teck > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > participants mailing list > > > participants@oshca.org > > > > > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Sat May 5 18:35:51 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sat May 5 17:02:05 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: <648423.59898.qm@web58713.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <648423.59898.qm@web58713.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <463C5E07.5050309@pc.jaring.my> Nandalal, There is no such email address as registration@oshca.org. It should be conference@oshca.org Rgds, Molly Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: >I send it to registration@oscha.org myself. But please >help Jason by resending, as I did. > >Nandalal >--- Seah Hong Yee wrote: > > > >>I did already send it to nan phin. >> >> >> >> From nplee at tm.net.my Sat May 5 12:45:42 2007 From: nplee at tm.net.my (NP Lee) Date: Sat May 5 17:16:33 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA Conference 2007 - Forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <463C0BF6.1040600@tm.net.my> Hong Yee, I hv been outstation, and no access to internet. my mail box is probably full. Can you pls sent direct to the person in charge, Jason? Robin, hv you sent the registration form and presentation material to Jason? Thanks for your support. Seah Hong Yee wrote: > I did already send it to nan phin. > > > On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> >> I do not seem to have the registration form from the following >> persons. My apologies if you have already done so, as I have been >> inundated with countless files. Could please send them to me, after >> renaming them? >> >> Selvaraju >> Nandalal Jayantha de Livera Gunaratne >> Bauwens, Michael >> GK Ganesan Kasinathan >> Pascual, Marvin >> Khairil Yusof >> Lauesen, William >> Alan See >> Seah Hong Yee >> Robin Hoo >> Mike McCoy >> Chacko, James George >> >> Many thanks. >> >> -- >> Jason Tan Boon Teck >> >> _______________________________________________ >> participants mailing list >> participants@oshca.org >> http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- best wishes. /nan phin Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. From alvin.marcelo at gmail.com Sat May 5 20:25:40 2007 From: alvin.marcelo at gmail.com (Alvin Marcelo) Date: Sat May 5 18:51:29 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <180889.96136.qm@web58712.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <00eb01c78e72$f73acbb0$0200a8c0@CameronS> <180889.96136.qm@web58712.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2c9aeb960705050525m3825fbefo1228551241473999@mail.gmail.com> Hello KS, Finally, we will meet and you can give us the lowdown on VistA. I promise to breathe and sleep VistA while there and make that final decision before returning to the Philippines on how to move forward. Peter Banson will be with me and we hope to get a deeper understanding of the technology. Nanda, I was able to make VistA work from the LiveCD Molly gave me last December. Don't worry -- I'm sure KS will bring originals for us to copy... alvin On 5/5/07, Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: > > I have tried the numerous live CDs produced by > Bhashkar, and one he kindly posted to me. But I could > not get going on it and do anything. > > It boils down to the fact that there has to be a > "Getting Started with VistA" doc, and a tutorial to > actually use it; add a doctor, then a patient by that > doctor, and finally add some info to the patient - > clinical, operation, radiology report and pathology > report perhaps. > > This will get us going, and maybe there will be no > stopping us! > > Nandalal > --- Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > > > Bhaskar is quite correct, especially regarding > > VistA. Even the most average > > programmer can learn all the commands and functions > > in M in about a day. > > What takes months of study of the available > > documentation as well as trial > > and error experience is to learn how to make good > > use of the services and > > application interfaces. But that's really only > > necessary if the intention > > is to make programming modifications. The REAL > > effort lies with the > > Clinical Application Coordinator whose > > responsibility is to configure the > > choices the system offers for maximum benfit. And > > the problem here is that > > the amount of documentation on the applications is > > simply enormous. > > Succinct documentation and brief introduction > > material is still lacking. > > (Part of the reason for that is that the working > > knowledge has built up over > > the years and the users aren't as aware of what > > they've learned and need to > > pass on in print to others.) > > > > There are several other anomalies with regard to M. > > M programmers tend to > > have lower salaries than those who program in Java, > > C, etc. And there are > > certainly fewer M programmers. M is just plain easy > > to learn. The > > experience in the US Department of Veterans Affairs > > (VA) has been that it is > > far easier to train clinically or administratively > > knowledgeable people in M > > (and in the VistA architecture) than it is to train > > an M programmer to have > > clinical or administrative knowledge. Another > > factor contributing to the > > number of M programmers and their average salaries > > is that it's just plain > > more efficient. > > > > VA has for years measured functionality and > > productivity using Function > > Points. The number of developers necessary to bring > > to production code > > written in VistA/M ranges from one half to one fifth > > of the number that VA > > is throwing at Java/SQL based projects. While > > counting "lines of code" is > > somewhat akin to counting the number of boards it > > takes a carpenter to erect > > a building (a bad carpenter can mangle a lot of > > lumber), line counts can > > give a rough sense of how much code there is to > > maintain. Estimates for > > VistA (on the M side) are that there are roughly > > 2,000,000 "lines" of code > > (or about 10,000,000 commands). There are about a > > dozen GUI's (CPRS and > > Imaging being the flagships, with others such as > > Vitals, Clinical Case > > Registry, etc). CPRS has about 500,000 command > > lines in Delphi. The number > > of M programmers actually maintaining VistA are > > between 20 and 50 (depending > > on what you count as a "programmer"). Similar > > higher productivity ratios > > with M are seen in other industries as well. System > > performance of M based > > systems has also proven to be a major competitive > > advantage. For > > organizations with lots of money and managers with > > the desire to build an IT > > empire, M is not the best choice. > > > > Cameron Schlehuber > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "K.S. Bhaskar" > > To: ; "OSHCA Conference > > participants" > > > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:28 AM > > Subject: Re: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic > > > > > > >M (MUMPS, of which GT.M is an implementation) is a > > relatively > > >straightforward third generation language with the > > flavor of BASIC, awk or > > >perl. There are no obstacles to a programmer > > picking up a manual and > > >learning to program M in short order. > > > > > > You will likely not find experienced M programmers > > by advertising in the > > > pages of your local newspaper. But if VistA as a > > free / open source > > > health care information system is a compelling > > application, and you have > > > competent local programmers, getting them to pick > > up M is the least of > > > your concerns. > > > > > > Regards > > > -- Bhaskar > > > > > > Ravindra De Silva wrote, On 05/04/2007 08:47 AM: > > >> > > >> > The problem you may have to resolve is finding > > GT.M > > >> > programmers in asia or convincing them that it > > is a > > >> > useful language to learn. > > >> > > > >> > Otherwise it is going to be difficult to push > > for it's > > >> > use in a government health setting. > > >> > > >> I tend to agree on this from a programmers > > perspective. > > >> Usually we enjoy learning a new > > technology/language when there are > > >> a lot of applications. No offense , but > > unfortunately in this case the > > >> experience/knowledge we gain from > > installing/customizing will not be of > > >> that much use for other opportunities. and of > > course most of the > > >> programmers like to say they have 5 years > > experience in JAVA, C > > >> ++,PHP,ect. and i wonder how would that be here. > > How ever, for a person > > >> who specializes in health care i think this is > > one of the best. > > >> just my 2 cents. > > >> > > >> cheers > > >> ravindra > > > _______________________________________________ > > > participants mailing list > > > participants@oshca.org > > > > > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! 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We would like to have someone whether already speaking or not, > fill-in with a presentation/demo/instruction as you wish on PHP CAKE or > something related. > > The slot is Workshop #18 1445-1530 on 11 May. > > If you would like to take this opportunity to present at OSHCA2007 then > please send a sort abstract (just a few lines of describing your talk) > to conference@oshca.org using the subject line "Fill-in Speaker" > > > Thank You, > Tim Cook > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > -- Alvin B. Marcelo, MD Director National Telehealth Center University of the Philippines Manila Telefax: 632-525-6501 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070505/62f18b4e/attachment.htm From ravindra at opensource.lk Sat May 5 21:36:28 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Sat May 5 19:59:13 2007 Subject: [participants] Hi from IOSN SA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1178372188.4262.11.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > Ravindra, we're already in touch with Chamindra De Silva and Sheran Corera > from the Sahana Team; so looking forward to meeting you and all the > others. great! i am looking forward to meet all of you and for a very productive conference cheers ravindra From ravindra at opensource.lk Sat May 5 21:47:30 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Sat May 5 20:10:15 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <813376.65713.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <813376.65713.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1178372850.4262.23.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> hi Finally i confirmed my flight that lands in KL on 8th at 1.30 p.m. I was on the waiting list for several flights on 7th and 8th, but did not work out. Molly please be kind enough to excuse me coming late like this. all the flights i booked got rescheduled due to air port closure and its beyond my control. of course i should have confirmed the 7th morning flight when i had the chance , but i waited for the VISA :( I hope you understand. so please count me out for dinner,ect on 7th and 8th breakfast,ect. should i send the registration form again with this changed schedule? thanks in advance cheers ravindra From ravindra at opensource.lk Sat May 5 22:00:20 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Sat May 5 20:23:04 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <00eb01c78e72$f73acbb0$0200a8c0@CameronS> References: <480123.47252.qm@web58702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <1178282868.4121.26.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <463B4325.3050500@fnf.com> <00eb01c78e72$f73acbb0$0200a8c0@CameronS> Message-ID: <1178373620.4262.32.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > > VA has for years measured functionality and productivity using Function > Points. The number of developers necessary to bring to production code > written in VistA/M ranges from one half to one fifth of the number that VA > is throwing at Java/SQL based projects. While counting "lines of code" is > somewhat akin to counting the number of boards it takes a carpenter to erect > a building (a bad carpenter can mangle a lot of lumber), line counts can > give a rough sense of how much code there is to maintain. Estimates for > VistA (on the M side) are that there are roughly 2,000,000 "lines" of code > (or about 10,000,000 commands). There are about a dozen GUI's (CPRS and > Imaging being the flagships, with others such as Vitals, Clinical Case > Registry, etc). CPRS has about 500,000 command lines in Delphi. The number > of M programmers actually maintaining VistA are between 20 and 50 (depending > on what you count as a "programmer"). Similar higher productivity ratios > with M are seen in other industries as well. System performance of M based > systems has also proven to be a major competitive advantage. For > organizations with lots of money and managers with the desire to build an IT > empire, M is not the best choice. thanks a lot for the enlightening email! I am thoroughly interested to dive into M and VISTA. Can you give me some pointer to upto-date good links to M programming? From what i see from your description its very much like PERL and i like PERL :). and from the sound of it i like M too :) cheers ravindra From wross at mendocinohre.org Sat May 5 22:07:50 2007 From: wross at mendocinohre.org (Will Ross) Date: Sat May 5 20:34:04 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A19D35D@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> References: <7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A19D35D@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> Message-ID: Chris, I'm looking forward to meeting you. I've been working with folks at Regenstrief for a few years. Shaun Grannis has been contributing to the OpenEMPI work I will be presenting on Tuesday. With best regards, [wr] - - - - - - - - On May 4, 2007, at 10:53 PM, Chris Seebregts wrote: > Hi Everyone > > > > I will be attending the OSHCA meeting next week and want to say a > few words of introduction. My name is Chris Seebregts; I live and > work in South Africa and participate in the OpenMRS collaborative > (www.openmrs.org). Hopefully, I will be joined by our other > colleagues and collaborators, Daniel Kayiwa (Uganda), Morris > Mathebula (from HISP, South Africa) and Mike McKay (Malawi). > > > > I look forward to meeting the members of OSHCA and learning more > about FOSS in healthcare. > > > > I will also be bringing a good red and a good white from our well- > known Cape winelands to share with anyone wanting a taste of Africa! > > > > Best wishes > > > > Chris > > > > =================================================================== > > Chris Seebregts, PhD > > Biomedical Informatics Research Division, Medical Research Council > > Graduate Program in Medical Informatics, University of KwaZulu-Natal > > South Africa > > Voice: (mobile): +27 82 461 5556; (office): +27 21 938 0318; > (skype): chris.seebregts > > Fax: +27 21 938 0526; Postal: PO Box 19070, Tygerberg 7505, South > Africa > > ====================================================================== > ======== > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants- > bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of K.S. Bhaskar > > Sent: 05 May 2007 06:15 > > To: OSHCA Conference participants > > Subject: Re: [participants] Reception (informal) Information > > > > Pennsylvania is not exactly known for its fine wines (we're beer > > drinkers), but I have picked up a bottle of Chaddsford 2002 Cabernet > > Sauvignon for what it's worth. > > > > -- Bhaskar > > > > Dr Adrian Midgley (In the office) wrote, On 05/03/2007 06:40 AM: > > > Will Ross wrote: > > > > as i live in california wine country, i plan to bring a nice > bottle. > > > > our cool north pacific coastal appellation specializes in > alsatian > > > > varietals: > > > > > > I'm routed through Paris, perhaps I can snag a bottle of Claret1 > [1] en > > > passant. > > > > > > Our security state has gone from relaxed to paranoid+ recently so > any > > > fluids I bring will have to be in the hold baggage, or have been > > > purchased on the airside of the last departure airport. To what > extent > > > that affects other travellers from other places I don't know, but be > > > aware of it. > > > > > > -- > > > Adrian Midgley > > > > > > [1] Red Bordeaux > > > _______________________________________________ > > > participants mailing list > > > participants@oshca.org > > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > -- > This e-mail and its contents are subject to the > South African Medical Research Council > e-mail legal notice available at http://www.mrc.ac.za/about/ > EmailLegalNotice.html > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants [wr] - - - - - - - - will ross chief information officer mendocino health records exchange 216 west perkins street, suite 206 ukiah, california 95482 usa 707.462.6369 [office] 707.462.5015 [fax] www.mendocinohre.org - - - - - - - - "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 - - - - - - - - From dalmolin at e-cology.ca Sat May 5 22:17:23 2007 From: dalmolin at e-cology.ca (Joseph Dal Molin) Date: Sat May 5 20:39:59 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <1178373620.4262.32.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <480123.47252.qm@web58702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <1178282868.4121.26.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <463B4325.3050500@fnf.com> <00eb01c78e72$f73acbb0$0200a8c0@CameronS> <1178373620.4262.32.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <463C91F3.9070607@e-cology.ca> Here are a couple of places you can start: http://207.192.157.194/Demo/AnnoStd http://www.jacquardsystems.com/Examples/ Ravindra De Silva wrote: >> VA has for years measured functionality and productivity using Function >> Points. The number of developers necessary to bring to production code >> written in VistA/M ranges from one half to one fifth of the number that VA >> is throwing at Java/SQL based projects. While counting "lines of code" is >> somewhat akin to counting the number of boards it takes a carpenter to erect >> a building (a bad carpenter can mangle a lot of lumber), line counts can >> give a rough sense of how much code there is to maintain. Estimates for >> VistA (on the M side) are that there are roughly 2,000,000 "lines" of code >> (or about 10,000,000 commands). There are about a dozen GUI's (CPRS and >> Imaging being the flagships, with others such as Vitals, Clinical Case >> Registry, etc). CPRS has about 500,000 command lines in Delphi. The number >> of M programmers actually maintaining VistA are between 20 and 50 (depending >> on what you count as a "programmer"). Similar higher productivity ratios >> with M are seen in other industries as well. System performance of M based >> systems has also proven to be a major competitive advantage. For >> organizations with lots of money and managers with the desire to build an IT >> empire, M is not the best choice. > > thanks a lot for the enlightening email! I am thoroughly interested to > dive into M and VISTA. Can you give me some pointer to upto-date good > links to M programming? From what i see from your description its very > much like PERL and i like PERL :). and from the sound of it i like M > too :) > > cheers > ravindra > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > . > From alvin.marcelo at gmail.com Sat May 5 22:16:27 2007 From: alvin.marcelo at gmail.com (Alvin Marcelo) Date: Sat May 5 20:42:18 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: Filled forms In-Reply-To: <4638BAA2.5090805@pc.jaring.my> References: <63583d000705020848j7106c855vff156c8fc80587a5@mail.gmail.com> <4638BAA2.5090805@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <2c9aeb960705050716w58087cdtc130661c67b1af08@mail.gmail.com> Hi Daniel! All, Will there be a wiki (local or net) for the conference? Anyone thinking of setting one up (even if local)? alvin On 5/3/07, Molly Cheah wrote: > > Thanks Daniel. I hope you are subscribed to the participants list to get > announcements and updates on the conference. Someone in the list will > guide you thru the archives if you missed the earlier messages on how to > get to the hotel from the airpot, KLIA. > > Everyone, this is Daniel Kayiwa from Uganda, Africa and he's got > something exciting to show you all from Africa. > > Molly > Daniel Kayiwa wrote: > > > > > Dear Conference organiser, > > > > Attached are the filled forms. > > > > Daniel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 > 2:57 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Alvin B. Marcelo, MD Director National Telehealth Center University of the Philippines Manila Telefax: 632-525-6501 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070505/c4f08336/attachment.html From francis.sarmiento3 at gmail.com Sat May 5 22:38:16 2007 From: francis.sarmiento3 at gmail.com (Francisco Sarmiento III) Date: Sat May 5 21:04:03 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <1178372850.4262.23.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <813376.65713.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <1178372850.4262.23.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <3c6717fa0705050738w2454e002qcc99080d52cf8730@mail.gmail.com> Dear Ravindra, And my prayers got answered! My friend, we are looking forward to see you and SAHANA again! Safe journey! Sincerely, Francis On 5/5/07, Ravindra De Silva wrote: > hi > > Finally i confirmed my flight that lands in KL on 8th at 1.30 p.m. > I was on the waiting list for several flights on 7th and 8th, but did > not work out. Molly please be kind enough to excuse me coming late like > this. all the flights i booked got rescheduled due to air port closure > and its beyond my control. of course i should have confirmed the 7th > morning flight when i had the chance , but i waited for the VISA :( > I hope you understand. > so please count me out for dinner,ect on 7th and 8th breakfast,ect. > should i send the registration form again with this changed schedule? > thanks in advance > > cheers > ravindra > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Francisco "Francis" E. Sarmiento III, MD Project Support Officer UNDP-International Open Source Network ASEAN+3 Sub-Regional Node University of the Philippines Manila-National Telehealth Center 3rd Floor I.T. Complex, Dietary Building, PGH Compound Taft Avenue, 1000 MANILA, Philippines Telefax no: +00 63 2 5256501 Mobile: +63 915 8501111 Website: www.iosn.net From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Sat May 5 23:54:29 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sat May 5 22:20:47 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <1178372850.4262.23.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <813376.65713.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <1178372850.4262.23.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <463CA8B5.9050503@pc.jaring.my> We'll miss you for the welcome bash - hoping for a bottle from you :) Anyway please do send us an updated reg form and Jason will be happy besides, we all save one day's hotel charge. See you on tuesday anyway. Rgds, Molly Ravindra De Silva wrote: >hi > >Finally i confirmed my flight that lands in KL on 8th at 1.30 p.m. >I was on the waiting list for several flights on 7th and 8th, but did >not work out. Molly please be kind enough to excuse me coming late like >this. all the flights i booked got rescheduled due to air port closure >and its beyond my control. of course i should have confirmed the 7th >morning flight when i had the chance , but i waited for the VISA :( >I hope you understand. >so please count me out for dinner,ect on 7th and 8th breakfast,ect. >should i send the registration form again with this changed schedule? >thanks in advance > >cheers >ravindra > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > From alvin.marcelo at gmail.com Sun May 6 00:05:19 2007 From: alvin.marcelo at gmail.com (Alvin Marcelo) Date: Sat May 5 22:31:05 2007 Subject: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> Message-ID: <2c9aeb960705050905s220e836bu3b5f260c18c640bb@mail.gmail.com> Hi Jason, Do note that these services are not running 24 > hours and you would either have to take a taxi directly from the > airport to the hotel (USE THE COUPON SYSTEM), or wait for the earliest > service, if you touch down past midnight. How much might this LCCT to hotel transfer cost (using coupon)? Thanks... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070506/9a9d9c8f/attachment.htm From tanboonteck at gmail.com Sun May 6 00:10:51 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Sat May 5 22:36:37 2007 Subject: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <2c9aeb960705050905s220e836bu3b5f260c18c640bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> <2c9aeb960705050905s220e836bu3b5f260c18c640bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: http://www.klia.com.my/index.php?ch=8&pg=3&ac=1688 Please take note that there is a surcharge of 30 % for usage between 12 midnight to 6 am. jason On 5/6/07, Alvin Marcelo wrote: > Hi Jason, > > > > Do note that these services are not running 24 > > hours and you would either have to take a taxi directly from the > > airport to the hotel (USE THE COUPON SYSTEM), or wait for the earliest > > service, if you touch down past midnight. > > How much might this LCCT to hotel transfer cost (using coupon)? > > Thanks... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Sun May 6 00:13:44 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sat May 5 22:39:54 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: Filled forms In-Reply-To: <2c9aeb960705050716w58087cdtc130661c67b1af08@mail.gmail.com> References: <63583d000705020848j7106c855vff156c8fc80587a5@mail.gmail.com> <4638BAA2.5090805@pc.jaring.my> <2c9aeb960705050716w58087cdtc130661c67b1af08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <463CAD38.4060505@pc.jaring.my> Yes Alvin, There will be a wiki. Since Tim Cook arrive early to help me out, he is going to set it up. Molly Alvin Marcelo wrote: > Hi Daniel! > > All, > > Will there be a wiki (local or net) for the conference? Anyone > thinking of setting one up (even if local)? > > alvin > > > > On 5/3/07, * Molly Cheah* > wrote: > > Thanks Daniel. I hope you are subscribed to the participants list > to get > announcements and updates on the conference. Someone in the list will > guide you thru the archives if you missed the earlier messages on > how to > get to the hotel from the airpot, KLIA. > > Everyone, this is Daniel Kayiwa from Uganda, Africa and he's got > something exciting to show you all from Africa. > > Molly > Daniel Kayiwa wrote: > > > > > Dear Conference organiser, > > > > Attached are the filled forms. > > > > Daniel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: > 5/1/2007 2:57 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > -- > Alvin B. Marcelo, MD > Director > National Telehealth Center > University of the Philippines Manila > Telefax: 632-525-6501 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/789 - Release Date: 5/4/2007 5:49 PM > > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Sun May 6 00:20:22 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sat May 5 22:46:35 2007 Subject: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <2c9aeb960705050905s220e836bu3b5f260c18c640bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> <2c9aeb960705050905s220e836bu3b5f260c18c640bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <463CAEC6.1000300@pc.jaring.my> We've arranged for special van to get you all arriving after midnight direct to the airport. Jason will give more info tomorrow. Rgds, Molly Alvin Marcelo wrote: > Hi Jason, > > Do note that these services are not running 24 > hours and you would either have to take a taxi directly from the > airport to the hotel (USE THE COUPON SYSTEM), or wait for the earliest > service, if you touch down past midnight. > > > How much might this LCCT to hotel transfer cost (using coupon)? > > Thanks... > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/789 - Release Date: 5/4/2007 5:49 PM > > From kayiwadaniel at gmail.com Sun May 6 01:51:16 2007 From: kayiwadaniel at gmail.com (Daniel Kayiwa) Date: Sun May 6 00:17:01 2007 Subject: [participants] Instructions from air port to the hotel Message-ID: <63583d000705051051u350a9965je725af3b0e919a77@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Can i please get instructions on how to get to the hotel from the air port? Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070505/204029f3/attachment.html From tanboonteck at gmail.com Sun May 6 01:58:12 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Sun May 6 00:23:59 2007 Subject: Fwd: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? In-Reply-To: References: <21805.152.131.12.192.1178040222.squirrel@207.44.156.96> <46377A68.9040406@fnf.com> Message-ID: Chris S, for your info. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jason Tan Boon Teck Date: May 2, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [participants] Getting from the Airport to the Federal Hotel -Suggestions? To: OSHCA Conference participants FYI: TAXI: Do NOT try to get taxis from airports and KL Sentral terminal, without using the coupon system. As was mentioned earlier, there is the Express Rail Link http://www.kliaekspres.com (RM35) from the KLIA (Kuala Lumpur International Airport) and buses (about RM13) from the LCCT (Low Cost Carrier Terminal), depending on which airline you are taking, to go to KL Sentral terminal. Do note that these services are not running 24 hours and you would either have to take a taxi directly from the airport to the hotel (USE THE COUPON SYSTEM), or wait for the earliest service, if you touch down past midnight. At KL Sentral, you need to buy a RM10 COUPON from the taxi COUNTER, to get to the Federal Hotel. The KL Taxi Association will be putting up a banner to greet the participants and to guide them to get the coupons. If you are more adventurous, you can take the Monorail from KL Sentral to the hotel, but you will have to do some walking. :-) Remember, use the coupons for taxis from terminals. CITY TOUR: For those interested in the city tour, KL has available Hop-on-Hop-off buses touring the city in a circuit.You pay one time for the whole day, and you can use the ticket multiple times within the day. The buses are supposed to also come with tourist guides to explain the various tourists spot to the passengers. MALAYSIA TOUR: Yaji Travel (www.yajitravel.com) has partnered us to assist you in getting to know Malaysia better. 2007 is designated as Visit Malaysia Year in conjuction with our 50th Birthday as an independent nation and the Ministry of Tourism has planned numerous activities to please the tourists. FOOD: As to the availability of food - it is not a problem. We have cuisines from various cultures - Malay, Chinese, Indian, Western, Vegetarian and also from other countries such as Japanese, Koreans, etc. at affordable prices. There are food outlets and food stalls that runs 24 hours or caters to the night crowd. HOTEL: The Federal Hotel is giving a special room rate of MYR180 to the OSHCA Conference participants. If you wish to stay in cheaper hotels, there are numerous hotels within walking distance from Federal Hotel. For registered participants of OSHCA, the following will be provided: Dinner: May 7, 8 and 10 Lunch: May 8-11 Breakfast: Federal Hotel rooms includes breakfast. Regards, Jason Tan Logistics Committee On 5/2/07, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > Chris -- > > Are you arriving at Kuala Lumpur International Airport? If so, take the > train to KL Sentral (cost is something like RM 35). From KL Sentral > there are no specific instructions, but if I don't get alternative > directions, I'll take a taxi from a regular taxi stand at the station. > Watch out for unauthorized / unregulated "taxis" soliciting your business. > > -- Bhaskar > > rcr@rcresearch.us wrote, On 05/01/2007 01:23 PM: > > Thank you for all of your help so far. The digests have been > > informative. Is there a prescribed method of getting from the airport to > > the hotel when we fly in? I am coming in a day early (Sunday) and will be > > a bit more on my own than those who were able to make better arrangements. > > If there is a good suggested means of accomplishing the transfer from the > > airport to the hotel, I would love to become informed. Best wishes; > > Chris Richardson > > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From john.forman at globo.com Sun May 6 03:25:56 2007 From: john.forman at globo.com (John Forman) Date: Sun May 6 01:51:45 2007 Subject: RES: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A19D35D@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> References: <463C04E0.4080306@fnf.com> <7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A19D35D@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> Message-ID: <008801c78f4b$350b2330$e878a8c0@JLForman> Hi everybody, I'm already on my way to OSHCA, waiting in S?o Paulo, Brazil, to board to Amsterdam, where I'll get another flight to Kuala Lumpur. Due to that stop, I'm not allowed to take any recipients with more than 100ml of liquid stuff. Unfortunately they don't sell Brazilian wine (or any wine) in such small amounts ... :-( But I was able to buy five 50ml sample bottles of Brazilian CACHA?A, which is our local Tequila. It is made out of sugar cane, and there are people that say that some home-made CACHA?A can be used to fuel cars around here :-) The ones I'm taking are not that strong, but still will require more adventurous people to taste it. :-) FOSS here in Brazil is gaining some momentum, but still not many people involved with FOSS projects in healthcare. Nevertheless, I think there are people working in a pilot project in S?o Paulo with Vista and a group of people that received some funding from the government to translate to Portuguese Care2x. I hope I can learn about these and other projects and help to spread the word on OSHCA around Brazil and Latin America. See you all soon. Regards, John John Lemos Forman, MSc, CPHIMS (I'm not sure I'm using the right order, as we do not usually put these abreviations after our full names here in Brazil) _____ De: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] Em nome de Chris Seebregts Enviada em: s?bado, 5 de maio de 2007 02:54 Para: OSHCA Conference participants Assunto: RE: [participants] Reception (informal) Information Hi Everyone I will be attending the OSHCA meeting next week and want to say a few words of introduction. My name is Chris Seebregts; I live and work in South Africa and participate in the OpenMRS collaborative (www.openmrs.org ). Hopefully, I will be joined by our other colleagues and collaborators, Daniel Kayiwa (Uganda), Morris Mathebula (from HISP, South Africa) and Mike McKay (Malawi). I look forward to meeting the members of OSHCA and learning more about FOSS in healthcare. I will also be bringing a good red and a good white from our well-known Cape winelands to share with anyone wanting a taste of Africa! Best wishes Chris =================================================================== Chris Seebregts, PhD Biomedical Informatics Research Division, Medical Research Council Graduate Program in Medical Informatics, University of KwaZulu-Natal South Africa Voice: (mobile): +27 82 461 5556; (office): +27 21 938 0318; (skype): chris.seebregts Fax: +27 21 938 0526; Postal: PO Box 19070, Tygerberg 7505, South Africa ============================================================================ == -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of K.S. Bhaskar Sent: 05 May 2007 06:15 To: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] Reception (informal) Information Pennsylvania is not exactly known for its fine wines (we're beer drinkers), but I have picked up a bottle of Chaddsford 2002 Cabernet Sauvignon for what it's worth. -- Bhaskar Dr Adrian Midgley (In the office) wrote, On 05/03/2007 06:40 AM: > Will Ross wrote: > > as i live in california wine country, i plan to bring a nice bottle. > > our cool north pacific coastal appellation specializes in alsatian > > varietals: > > I'm routed through Paris, perhaps I can snag a bottle of Claret1[1] en > passant. > > Our security state has gone from relaxed to paranoid+ recently so any > fluids I bring will have to be in the hold baggage, or have been > purchased on the airside of the last departure airport. To what extent > that affects other travellers from other places I don't know, but be > aware of it. > > -- > Adrian Midgley > > [1] Red Bordeaux > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants -- This e-mail and its contents are subject to the South African Medical Research Council e-mail legal notice available at http://www.mrc.ac.za/about/EmailLegalNotice.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070505/9a7e5c38/attachment.htm From tanboonteck at gmail.com Sun May 6 03:29:05 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Sun May 6 01:54:48 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <008801c78f4b$350b2330$e878a8c0@JLForman> References: <463C04E0.4080306@fnf.com> <7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A19D35D@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> <008801c78f4b$350b2330$e878a8c0@JLForman> Message-ID: Have a safe trip, John. See you in KL. jason On 5/6/07, John Forman wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > I'm already on my way to OSHCA, waiting in S?o Paulo, Brazil, to board to > Amsterdam, where I'll get another flight to Kuala Lumpur. Due to that stop, > I'm not allowed to take any recipients with more than 100ml of liquid stuff. > Unfortunately they don't sell Brazilian wine (or any wine) in such small > amounts ... :-( But I was able to buy five 50ml sample bottles of > Brazilian CACHA?A, which is our local Tequila. It is made out of sugar cane, > and there are people that say that some home-made CACHA?A can be used to > fuel cars around here :-) The ones I'm taking are not that strong, but > still will require more adventurous people to taste it. :-) > > FOSS here in Brazil is gaining some momentum, but still not many people > involved with FOSS projects in healthcare. Nevertheless, I think there are > people working in a pilot project in S?o Paulo with Vista and a group of > people that received some funding from the government to translate to > Portuguese Care2x. I hope I can learn about these and other projects and > help to spread the word on OSHCA around Brazil and Latin America. > > See you all soon. > > Regards, > > John > > John Lemos Forman, MSc, CPHIMS (I'm not sure I'm using the right order, as > we do not usually put these abreviations after our full names here in > Brazil) > > ________________________________ > De: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] > Em nome de Chris Seebregts > Enviada em: s?bado, 5 de maio de 2007 02:54 > Para: OSHCA Conference participants > Assunto: RE: [participants] Reception (informal) Information > > > > > > Hi Everyone > > > > I will be attending the OSHCA meeting next week and want to say a few words > of introduction. My name is Chris Seebregts; I live and work in South > Africa and participate in the OpenMRS collaborative (www.openmrs.org). > Hopefully, I will be joined by our other colleagues and collaborators, > Daniel Kayiwa (Uganda), Morris Mathebula (from HISP, South Africa) and Mike > McKay (Malawi). > > > > I look forward to meeting the members of OSHCA and learning more about FOSS > in healthcare. > > > > I will also be bringing a good red and a good white from our well-known Cape > winelands to share with anyone wanting a taste of Africa! > > > > Best wishes > > > > Chris > > > > =================================================================== > > Chris Seebregts, PhD > > Biomedical Informatics Research Division, Medical Research Council > > Graduate Program in Medical Informatics, University of KwaZulu-Natal > > South Africa > > Voice: (mobile): +27 82 461 5556; (office): +27 21 938 0318; (skype): > chris.seebregts > > Fax: +27 21 938 0526; Postal: PO Box 19070, Tygerberg 7505, South Africa > > ============================================================================== > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] > On Behalf Of K.S. Bhaskar > > Sent: 05 May 2007 06:15 > > To: OSHCA Conference participants > > Subject: Re: [participants] Reception (informal) Information > > > > Pennsylvania is not exactly known for its fine wines (we're beer > > drinkers), but I have picked up a bottle of Chaddsford 2002 Cabernet > > Sauvignon for what it's worth. > > > > -- Bhaskar > > > > Dr Adrian Midgley (In the office) wrote, On 05/03/2007 06:40 AM: > > > Will Ross wrote: > > > > as i live in california wine country, i plan to bring a nice bottle. > > > > our cool north pacific coastal appellation specializes in alsatian > > > > varietals: > > > > > > I'm routed through Paris, perhaps I can snag a bottle of Claret1[1] en > > > passant. > > > > > > Our security state has gone from relaxed to paranoid+ recently so any > > > fluids I bring will have to be in the hold baggage, or have been > > > purchased on the airside of the last departure airport. To what extent > > > that affects other travellers from other places I don't know, but be > > > aware of it. > > > > > > -- > > > Adrian Midgley > > > > > > [1] Red Bordeaux > > > _______________________________________________ > > > participants mailing list > > > participants@oshca.org > > > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > -- > This e-mail and its contents are subject to the > South African Medical Research Council > e-mail legal notice available at > http://www.mrc.ac.za/about/EmailLegalNotice.html > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From rcr at rcresearch.us Sun May 6 04:44:25 2007 From: rcr at rcresearch.us (Chris Richardson) Date: Sun May 6 03:10:20 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: participants Digest, Vol 2, Issue 19 Message-ID: <01f401c78f56$2c6e8b30$0d7e13ac@FarLiteWV> I have brought a digital camera (1 gig Chip) and a tripod as well as a 6 megapixel still camera (2 gig chip). I also have some DVD burners (one on the laptop, one off-board). ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 4:45 AM Subject: participants Digest, Vol 2, Issue 19 > Send participants mailing list submissions to > participants@oshca.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > participants-request@oshca.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > participants-owner@oshca.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of participants digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: VistA FOSS Stack Clinic (Adrian Midgley) > 2. Re: Daily Conference Schedule Update (Will Ross) > 3. Re: VistA FOSS Stack Clinic (Ezwan Aizat Bin Abdullah Faiz) > 4. Re: Daily Conference Schedule Update (Tim Cook) > 5. Re: VistA FOSS Stack Clinic (Nandalal Gunaratne) > 6. Re: Congratulations to OSHCA organizers (Nandalal Gunaratne) > 7. Re: Reception (informal) Information (Nandalal Gunaratne) > 8. Re: SWAG (Nandalal Gunaratne) > 9. Re: Conference 2007 - Forms (Nandalal Gunaratne) > 10. Fwd: KL Sentral Taxi counter Info (Important) > (Jason Tan Boon Teck) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 14:28:05 +0100 > From: Adrian Midgley > Subject: Re: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic > To: tchur@optusnet.com.au, OSHCA Conference participants > > Message-ID: <4639E365.4000707@defoam.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Tim Churches wrote: >> That would be a fantastic "product" of the conference. >> >> Talking of conference "products", are there plans to (audio) record the >> sessions? > > I'll bring my SLR for stills of those presenting and attending, and yes > some release forms. > > I'm not a movie man. > > I will bring my Sony Minidisc recorder, which may be useful for audio. > > I hope there are plenty of power sockets and trailing mains leads. > > I'd like us to turn out a bound book... > > -- > A > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 22:43:19 -0700 > From: Will Ross > Subject: Re: [participants] Daily Conference Schedule Update > To: tw_cook@comcast.net, OSHCA Conference participants > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > tim, > > please disambiguate the location of session 13: pahang suite or > banquet hall? > > with best regards, > > [wr] > > - - - - - - - - > > On May 3, 2007, at 9:36 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > >> Read, Plan and enjoy! >> >> Tim >> >> PS. Any comments, criticisms (egads - errors!) please let me know. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> participants mailing list >> participants@oshca.org >> http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > [wr] > > - - - - - - - - > > will ross > chief information officer > mendocino health records exchange > 216 west perkins street, suite 206 > ukiah, california 95482 usa > 707.462.6369 [office] > 707.462.5015 [fax] > www.mendocinohre.org > > - - - - - - - - > > "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." > Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 > > - - - - - - - - > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 14:36:42 +0800 > From: "Ezwan Aizat Bin Abdullah Faiz" > Subject: Re: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic > To: tchur@optusnet.com.au, "OSHCA Conference participants" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On 5/3/07, Tim Churches wrote: > >> Or video? A digital video camera on a tripod, with a plug-in condensor >> mike works well and is fuss-free. It is tedious to convert the videos >> later but the actual recording is easy. > > > > A little ffmpeg magic, and let it run in the background, then upload to > google video. > > If you do decide video tape, I only request that it be released under a > Creative Commons license :) > > Regards, > Aizat > > -- > aizatto - sleep, to the power of z -_-;;^zzz > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070504/46999a0c/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 07:18:09 +0000 > From: Tim Cook > Subject: Re: [participants] Daily Conference Schedule Update > To: OSHCA Conference participants > Message-ID: <1178263089.3383.77.camel@oship> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 22:43 -0700, Will Ross wrote: >> tim, >> >> please disambiguate the location of session 13: pahang suite or >> banquet hall? > > > Will, > > My apologies. It is the Banquet Hall. > > Sorry it was caused by a blown out spreadsheet formula. Maybe it's a > case of using a spreadsheet when a database app was called for? Or > better yet an open source application like > http://www.conftool.net/en/features.html > > Maybe next time. > > There will be another release tomorrow to correct a couple of other > minor errors and to add the country of the speaker after their name. > > Cheers, > Tim > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part > Url : > http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070504/18050a67/attachment-0001.pgp > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 04:04:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: Nandalal Gunaratne > Subject: Re: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic > To: OSHCA Conference participants > Message-ID: <480123.47252.qm@web58702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > The problem you may have to resolve is finding GT.M > programmers in asia or convincing them that it is a > useful language to learn. > > Otherwise it is going to be difficult to push for it's > use in a government health setting. > > Nandalal > > > --- "K.S. Bhaskar" wrote: > >> The VistA Free / Open Source Software stack is VistA >> on GT.M on Linux. >> Anyone who wishes to do so will have the opportunity >> to leave Kuala >> Lumpur able to run the VistA FOSS stack. The VistA >> FOSS Stack Clinic >> starts at 1600 on Day 2 (Wednesday, May 9) and is >> scheduled till 1730, >> but will continue as long as needed - I will >> personally commit to >> getting the software up and running on your x86 >> based laptop/PC.* >> >> There are three approaches to getting the stack >> installed: >> >> 1. The Brain Transplant approach is to install Linux >> on your PC's hard >> drive, either over an existing Windows partition, or >> into a new >> partition. If you want to install into a new >> partition to be carved out >> of your Windows partition, please defragment your >> Windows *before* you >> come to the clinic, and ensure that you have at >> least 3GB of free space. >> Also, back up any valuable files in your Windows >> partition, including >> possibly the entire partition: to date, I have not >> lost a Windows >> partition during a Linux install, and we would all >> prefer not to have >> your PC be the first one. Once Linux is installed, >> we will install >> VistA & GT.M. [If your PC is already running Linux, >> please make sure >> you have at least 1.2GB free space.] >> >> 2. In the VivitA live CD approach, the hard drive on >> your disk is >> untouched. When you want to run VistA, you boot >> your PC with a live CD >> that includes the entire VistA FOSS stack. The >> read/write storage for >> the database is provided by a USB flash drive (1GB >> minimum). The >> advantage of this technique is that you can run this >> on your laptop in >> KL, take it home, and run it on a different PC >> there. >> >> 3. In the Toaster approach, your Windows / Mac >> machine runs an emulator >> or virtual PC that runs the VistA FOSS stack. This >> is the most flexible >> approach, but is not suitable for production use. >> If you want to use >> this approach, please bring a USB flash drive (2GB >> minimum) or ensure >> that you have at least 2GB available on your hard >> drive. >> >> I personally went with the brain transplant approach >> on my laptop. >> >> If you have questions, please e-mail the list (reply >> to this e-mail) and >> I will answer - it is likely that someone else has >> the same question. >> >> Regards >> -- Bhaskar >> >> * Caveat: Just because it's so easy to install the >> VistA FOSS stack and >> get it up an running in a matter of minnutes doesn't >> mean that you will >> have a fully functional VistA implementation. VistA >> requires >> configuration for your institution. >> _______________________________________________ >> participants mailing list >> participants@oshca.org >> > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 04:07:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Nandalal Gunaratne > Subject: Re: [participants] Congratulations to OSHCA organizers > To: OSHCA Conference participants > Message-ID: <14550.26596.qm@web58712.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I totally agree with you, and I have more inside info > on her efforts, knowing her before the confernece was > planned. OSCHA is now a registered organization > entirely due to her efforts. > > Nandalal > > > --- Xavier Gonzalez Alonso wrote: > >> After reading the so many 'urgent' queries from >> participants and kind >> answers from the organizers of the 2007 OSHCA >> Conference, I just had this >> need to congratulate Molly et al, for your warmth, >> patience and - I would >> say - heroic commitment to the organization of this >> important international >> event. >> >> >> >> So, from a little farther away than 'the other side >> of the world' (13 hours >> time difference in Southern Mexico), please receive >> my recognition. I am >> sure all participants greatly appreciate your >> efforts and will be very >> pleased to meet you and say this in person next >> week... >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Xavier Gonzalez >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> participants mailing list >> participants@oshca.org >> > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 04:09:21 -0700 (PDT) > From: Nandalal Gunaratne > Subject: Re: [participants] Reception (informal) Information > To: ravindra@opensource.lk, OSHCA Conference participants > > Message-ID: <457227.27029.qm@web58712.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Ravindra. When are you supposed to fly? > > Nandalal > --- Ravindra De Silva wrote: > >> > Hope you can come in the day before even if you >> need to use another airline. >> > >> >> yes i will try my best :) >> i am supposed to collect my VISA tomorrow. >> >> cheers >> ravindra >> >> _______________________________________________ >> participants mailing list >> participants@oshca.org >> > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 04:15:13 -0700 (PDT) > From: Nandalal Gunaratne > Subject: Re: [participants] SWAG > To: tw_cook@comcast.net, OSHCA Conference participants > > Message-ID: <133689.59701.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > SWAG > Stuff We All Get or Stuff WE Ain't Got. > :-) > --- Tim Cook wrote: > >> >> "In popular culture, the term swag now usually >> refers to promotional >> items or gifts that are given away by companies or >> organizations. It can >> also simply be used as a slang term for desirable >> items in general." >> >> There will be tables available for you to distribute >> CDs, brochures, >> etc. The tables are 2 feet wide and 8 feet long. I >> assume we can likely >> accommodate 2 - 3 different displays on a table. >> >> Please let us know if you will need space and if so >> approx. how much. >> >> Cheers, >> Tim >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> participants mailing list >> participants@oshca.org >> > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 04:33:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: Nandalal Gunaratne > Subject: Re: [participants] Conference 2007 - Forms > To: tw_cook@comcast.net, OSHCA Conference participants > > Message-ID: <706508.38012.qm@web58710.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Are we all supposed to send these using the "new" > files or is it only for those who have NOT registered > yet? > > nandalal > --- Tim Cook wrote: > >> All, >> >> There are now three new conference registration >> files on the OSHCA >> website. See: >> http://www.oshca.org/conference/oshca2007/ >> >> The three files are each in a different format for >> your convenience. >> Otherwise they are the same. >> >> 1. MSWord >> 2. OpenOffice 2.x >> 3. OpenOffice 1.x >> >> The instructions (which appear with as a description >> for each file) are >> as follows: >> -------------------------------------------- >> This is the conference registration form for >> OSHCA2007. Please download >> this file. Open it in yur word processor. Complete >> all of the questions >> and fill in all the blanks. Then chose File, Save >> As, then where >> prompted for a filename replace the word 'yourname' >> with your personal >> name. Note the location you saved this file then >> email it back to >> conference@oshca.org. Thank you. >> ------------------------------------------- >> >> If you are uncertain how to complete the form or >> follow these >> instructions then ask a colleague first if no help >> there then ask on the >> mailing lists. >> >> ***NOTE*** If you have ALREADY COMPLETED the form >> and sent it in then >> you DO NOT need to complete one of these. >> >> Regards, >> Tim Cook (for a frustrated Jason) :-> >> >> >> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 11:27 +0800, Jason Tan Boon >> Teck wrote: >> > Dear Tim, >> > >> > >> > Could you please upload these files and publish >> them. >> > >> > Downloading and renaming (95%) of the files >> received is driving me >> > insane. Hopefully the user would understand to >> rename the files before >> > sending. >> > >> > Many thanks. >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> participants mailing list >> participants@oshca.org >> > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 19:35:20 +0800 > From: "Jason Tan Boon Teck" > Subject: [participants] Fwd: KL Sentral Taxi counter Info (Important) > To: "OSHCA Conference participants" , "Siti > Fara" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Siti Fara > Date: May 4, 2007 7:33 PM > Subject: KL Sentral Taxi counter Info (Important) > To: tanboonteck@gmail.com > > > Dear Jason, > > Please forward this email to your conference mailing list because I > cannot find how to include my email in the said list. Thank you. > > For those of you whose taking KLIA Express, upon arrival at KL Sentral > Arrival Hall, please proceed to Budget Taxi counter with OSCHA signage > in front of it. For those of you who are taking the bus from LCCT, > upon arrival at the KL Sentral, proceed to the taxi coupon counter > with OSCHA signage in front of it. KL Sentral uses taxi coupon system > where the taxi fares is fixed and must be paid at the counter before > you board the taxi. Just mention the name of the hotel that you are > staying and the clerk will tell you the price. > > Taxis around Kuala Lumpur runs on meter, so please make sure that the > driver uses the meter and refuse those who don't. If you encounter > any problem with the driver, please take down the taxi number and > report to the secretariat. > > For taxi bookings using phone call, an extra RM 2 is charged. For > Airport trips, an extra RM12 is charged. Taxi bookings through > telephone can be done by calling any one of these companies: > Comfort Cab 03-8024 2727 > Public Cab 03-6259 2020 > > Thank you. > > Regards, > Siti Faradilah Aslah > Destination Transport (M) Sdn Bhd > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Jason Tan Boon Teck > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > End of participants Digest, Vol 2, Issue 19 > ******************************************* > > From tw_cook at comcast.net Sun May 6 06:15:20 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Sun May 6 04:41:43 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: Filled forms In-Reply-To: <2c9aeb960705050716w58087cdtc130661c67b1af08@mail.gmail.com> References: <63583d000705020848j7106c855vff156c8fc80587a5@mail.gmail.com> <4638BAA2.5090805@pc.jaring.my> <2c9aeb960705050716w58087cdtc130661c67b1af08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1178403320.15349.0.camel@oship> On Sat, 2007-05-05 at 22:16 +0800, Alvin Marcelo wrote: > Hi Daniel! > > All, > > Will there be a wiki (local or net) for the conference? 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From: "Jason Tan Boon Teck" Subject: OSHCA Conference 2007 - Travel Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 03:23:32 +0800 Size: 4077 Url: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070506/0cfb897f/OSHCAConference2007-Travel.mht From chelle at orangeandbronze.com Sun May 6 12:50:42 2007 From: chelle at orangeandbronze.com (chelle obligacion) Date: Sun May 6 11:16:23 2007 Subject: [participants] [Fwd: OSHCA Conference 2007 - Travel] In-Reply-To: <463D46A7.5000708@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <927697.43942.qm@web414.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Molly! Am Chelle Gray, Head of Business Development and Admin from Orange and Bronze Software Labs Ltd. Co., an opensource advocate software development company here in the Phils. I met Dr. Francis and Dr. Marcelo at the 1st Phil. Conference on FOSS in e-Governance last March 2007 in Manila. Our abstract before for the Clinical Database Management System was approved by Mr. Wayne Wilson and the rest of the organizers. Unfortunately, 2 weeks ago we had to send our regrets for the speaking opportunity because one of the projects were currently doin had major changes and Butch Landingin our CTO had to attend it. At that time we taught it will take some time to resolve the issues. Good news we were able to resolve it a lot earlier. I've read in the OSCHA participants mailing list that the speaker who's suppose to talk about PHP Cake wont be able to attend the Conference. I forwarded the mail to our company mailing list and I've got 2 volunteers who are very competent to speak about STRUTS, SPRING and HIBERNATE; One is our CTO, Butch Landingin and the other is our Senior Software Engineer , Ealden Escanan who are both open source advocates - Butch is one of the Board Members of the Philippine Linux Users Group (PLUG), Primary Developer and Past Maintainer, Squishdot Open Source Project and was a speaker before at the Philippine Open Source Conference in 2004. He also had more or less 18 years of experience in software development and 9 of which was spent in Silicon Valley. While Ealden is a member of the Ubuntu PH and currently the team lead for a project outsourced by a US Medical Software Company. Please advise if you'll consider our application again to be speakers or be part of OSHCA 2007 so I can arrange their flights if ever the soonest possible and if ever we would request for hotel accomodations for them. Looking forward to your positive response. Many thanks and warm regards. Chelle Chelle Gray Head, Business Development Orange & Bronze Software Labs Ltd. Co. Telefax: +6328943415/7514726 HP: +9178985674 http://software.orangeandbronze.com Molly Cheah wrote: For others information. Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 03:23:32 +0800 From: "Jason Tan Boon Teck" To: "Francisco Sarmiento III" , "OSHCA Conference" Subject: OSHCA Conference 2007 - Travel Dear Francis, The ground travel arrangements for the IOSN contingent are as follows: 1. Flights coming in during the day - traveller will have to make their own way from the LCCT airport to the hotel as follows - take bus (Skybus or competitors) on the exit of the arrival hall, costing RM12 to RM15, to KL Sentral terminal - at KL Sentral buy COUPON for taxi at RM10 - take taxi to Federal Hotel - maximum cost = RM25 or USD8 per head 2. Flights coming in past midnight (5J501 and Olivia) - Jason will be there to greet travellers with a A4 sized sign with words "OSHCA" - board van to go directly to Federal Hotel - zzzz - maximum cost = nil for traveller, secretariat will deal directly with Francis 3. Flights leaving at night (5J502) - board van at Federal Hotel to go directly to LCCT - maximum cost = nil for traveller, secretariat will deal directly with Francis 4. Flights leaving during the day - board van at Federal Hotel to go directly to LCCT (to be confirmed betw Francis and Secretariat) - otherwise share taxi from Federal Hotel to KL Sentral, should be cheaper than coupon system - take bus to LCCT from KL Sentral, costing RM12 to RM15 Current forex rate USD1 = RM3.40 If there are any further questions, you can contact me or participants@oshca.org Regards, Jason Tan Logistics Committee -- Jason Tan Boon Teck _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070505/bd97597f/attachment.html From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Sun May 6 16:13:48 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun May 6 14:39:58 2007 Subject: [participants] [Fwd: OSHCA Conference 2007 - Travel] In-Reply-To: <927697.43942.qm@web414.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <927697.43942.qm@web414.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <463D8E3C.10502@pc.jaring.my> Dear Chelle, OK. Please fill up the conference reg form and sens asap. Since the speakers are replacing the speakers for the training programme,I presume that your travel and hotel will be covered under the InWEnt funding. Please proceed to book your flights (low cost airlines) as I can see that the training prog provides for low cost flights only. I'mcopying this to Francis and Alvin as well. We will book your hotel under twin sharing arrangement. Molly chelle obligacion wrote: > Hi Molly! > > Am Chelle Gray, Head of Business Development and Admin from Orange and > Bronze Software Labs Ltd. Co., an opensource advocate software > development company here in the Phils. I met Dr. Francis and Dr. > Marcelo at the 1st Phil. Conference on FOSS in e-Governance last March > 2007 in Manila. > > Our abstract before for the Clinical Database Management System was > approved by Mr. Wayne Wilson and the rest of the organizers. > Unfortunately, 2 weeks ago we had to send our regrets for the speaking > opportunity because one of the projects were currently doin had major > changes and Butch Landingin our CTO had to attend it. At that time we > taught it will take some time to resolve the issues. Good news we > were able to resolve it a lot earlier. > > I've read in the OSCHA participants mailing list that the speaker > who's suppose to talk about PHP Cake wont be able to attend the > Conference. I forwarded the mail to our company mailing list and I've > got 2 volunteers who are very competent to speak about STRUTS, SPRING > and HIBERNATE; One is our CTO, Butch Landingin and the other is our > Senior Software Engineer , Ealden Escanan who are both open source > advocates - Butch is one of the Board Members of the Philippine Linux > Users Group (PLUG), Primary Developer and Past Maintainer, Squishdot > Open Source Project and was a speaker before at the Philippine Open > Source Conference in 2004. He also had more or less 18 years of > experience in software development and 9 of which was spent in Silicon > Valley. > > While Ealden is a member of the Ubuntu PH and currently the team lead > for a project outsourced by a US Medical Software Company. > > Please advise if you'll consider our application again to be speakers > or be part of OSHCA 2007 so I can arrange their flights if ever the > soonest possible and if ever we would request for hotel accomodations > for them. > > Looking forward to your positive response. > > Many thanks and warm regards. > > Chelle > > Chelle Gray > Head, Business Development > Orange & Bronze Software Labs Ltd. Co. > Telefax: +6328943415/7514726 > HP: +9178985674 > http://software.orangeandbronze.com > > */Molly Cheah /* wrote: > > For others information. > Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 03:23:32 +0800 > From: "Jason Tan Boon Teck" > To: "Francisco Sarmiento III" , > "OSHCA Conference" > Subject: OSHCA Conference 2007 - Travel > > Dear Francis, > > > The ground travel arrangements for the IOSN contingent are as follows: > > 1. Flights coming in during the day > - traveller will have to make their own way from the LCCT airport to > the hotel as follows > - take bus (Skybus or competitors) on the exit of the arrival hall, > costing RM12 to RM15, to KL Sentral terminal > - at KL Sentral buy COUPON for taxi at RM10 > - take taxi to Federal Hotel > - maximum cost = RM25 or USD8 per head > > 2. 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Molly please be kind enough to excuse me coming late like this. all the flights i booked got rescheduled due to air port closure and its beyond my control. of course i should have confirmed the 7th morning flight when i had the chance , but i waited for the VISA :( I hope you understand. so please count me out for dinner,ect on 7th and 8th breakfast,ect. should i send the registration form again with this changed schedule? thanks in advance cheers ravindra From ravindra at opensource.lk Sat May 5 22:00:20 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Sun May 6 17:33:12 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <00eb01c78e72$f73acbb0$0200a8c0@CameronS> References: <480123.47252.qm@web58702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <1178282868.4121.26.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <463B4325.3050500@fnf.com> <00eb01c78e72$f73acbb0$0200a8c0@CameronS> Message-ID: <1178373620.4262.32.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > > VA has for years measured functionality and productivity using Function > Points. The number of developers necessary to bring to production code > written in VistA/M ranges from one half to one fifth of the number that VA > is throwing at Java/SQL based projects. While counting "lines of code" is > somewhat akin to counting the number of boards it takes a carpenter to erect > a building (a bad carpenter can mangle a lot of lumber), line counts can > give a rough sense of how much code there is to maintain. Estimates for > VistA (on the M side) are that there are roughly 2,000,000 "lines" of code > (or about 10,000,000 commands). There are about a dozen GUI's (CPRS and > Imaging being the flagships, with others such as Vitals, Clinical Case > Registry, etc). CPRS has about 500,000 command lines in Delphi. The number > of M programmers actually maintaining VistA are between 20 and 50 (depending > on what you count as a "programmer"). Similar higher productivity ratios > with M are seen in other industries as well. System performance of M based > systems has also proven to be a major competitive advantage. For > organizations with lots of money and managers with the desire to build an IT > empire, M is not the best choice. thanks a lot for the enlightening email! I am thoroughly interested to dive into M and VISTA. Can you give me some pointer to upto-date good links to M programming? From what i see from your description its very much like PERL and i like PERL :). and from the sound of it i like M too :) cheers ravindra From ravindra at opensource.lk Sun May 6 10:03:08 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Sun May 6 17:33:18 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <463C91F3.9070607@e-cology.ca> References: <480123.47252.qm@web58702.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <1178282868.4121.26.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <463B4325.3050500@fnf.com> <00eb01c78e72$f73acbb0$0200a8c0@CameronS> <1178373620.4262.32.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <463C91F3.9070607@e-cology.ca> Message-ID: <1178416988.4262.38.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > http://207.192.157.194/Demo/AnnoStd > http://www.jacquardsystems.com/Examples/ > great! thanks cheers ravindra From ravindra at opensource.lk Sun May 6 10:26:41 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Sun May 6 17:33:32 2007 Subject: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <463CA8B5.9050503@pc.jaring.my> References: <813376.65713.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <1178372850.4262.23.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <463CA8B5.9050503@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <1178418401.4262.51.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > We'll miss you for the welcome bash - hoping for a bottle from you :) i can bring a local brew named "arrack" , but i think its a bit difficult to swallow, i will try for a WINE at KL airport :) > Anyway please do send us an updated reg form and Jason will be happy > besides, we all save one day's hotel charge. yes and there is a saving on the VISA cost as well since i obtained it from here :) , i just now sent the updated forms to conference@oshca.org . thanks cheers ravindra From nandalalx at yahoo.com Sun May 6 22:27:01 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Sun May 6 20:52:36 2007 Subject: RES: [participants] Reception (informal) Information In-Reply-To: <008801c78f4b$350b2330$e878a8c0@JLForman> Message-ID: <562335.73827.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I hope to bring a wine form South Africa which is a Shiraz ( One of Tim's favorites ). I hope nobody stops me at the airport. I think the use of OSCAR with postgresql was done in Brazil. I also read the Brazilian Journal of Urology which is the first peer reviewed journal in that field of healthcare to appear free online. Thanks Brazil!! Nandalal --- John Forman wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I'm already on my way to OSHCA, waiting in S?o > Paulo, Brazil, to board to > Amsterdam, where I'll get another flight to Kuala > Lumpur. Due to that stop, > I'm not allowed to take any recipients with more > than 100ml of liquid stuff. > Unfortunately they don't sell Brazilian wine (or any > wine) in such small > amounts ... :-( But I was able to buy five 50ml > sample bottles of > Brazilian CACHA?A, which is our local Tequila. It is > made out of sugar cane, > and there are people that say that some home-made > CACHA?A can be used to > fuel cars around here :-) The ones I'm taking are > not that strong, but > still will require more adventurous people to taste > it. :-) > > FOSS here in Brazil is gaining some momentum, but > still not many people > involved with FOSS projects in healthcare. > Nevertheless, I think there are > people working in a pilot project in S?o Paulo with > Vista and a group of > people that received some funding from the > government to translate to > Portuguese Care2x. I hope I can learn about these > and other projects and > help to spread the word on OSHCA around Brazil and > Latin America. > > See you all soon. > > Regards, > > John > > John Lemos Forman, MSc, CPHIMS (I'm not sure I'm > using the right order, as > we do not usually put these abreviations after our > full names here in > Brazil) > > _____ > > De: participants-bounces@oshca.org > [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] > Em nome de Chris Seebregts > Enviada em: s?bado, 5 de maio de 2007 02:54 > Para: OSHCA Conference participants > Assunto: RE: [participants] Reception (informal) > Information > > > > Hi Everyone > > > > I will be attending the OSHCA meeting next week and > want to say a few words > of introduction. My name is Chris Seebregts; I live > and work in South > Africa and participate in the OpenMRS collaborative > (www.openmrs.org > ). Hopefully, I will be > joined by our other > colleagues and collaborators, Daniel Kayiwa > (Uganda), Morris Mathebula (from > HISP, South Africa) and Mike McKay (Malawi). > > > > I look forward to meeting the members of OSHCA and > learning more about FOSS > in healthcare. > > > > I will also be bringing a good red and a good white > from our well-known Cape > winelands to share with anyone wanting a taste of > Africa! > > > > Best wishes > > > > Chris > > > > =================================================================== > > Chris Seebregts, PhD > > Biomedical Informatics Research Division, Medical > Research Council > > Graduate Program in Medical Informatics, University > of KwaZulu-Natal > > South Africa > > Voice: (mobile): +27 82 461 5556; (office): +27 21 > 938 0318; (skype): > chris.seebregts > > Fax: +27 21 938 0526; Postal: PO Box 19070, > Tygerberg 7505, South Africa > > ============================================================================ > == > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: participants-bounces@oshca.org > [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] > On Behalf Of K.S. Bhaskar > > Sent: 05 May 2007 06:15 > > To: OSHCA Conference participants > > Subject: Re: [participants] Reception (informal) > Information > > > > Pennsylvania is not exactly known for its fine wines > (we're beer > > drinkers), but I have picked up a bottle of > Chaddsford 2002 Cabernet > > Sauvignon for what it's worth. > > > > -- Bhaskar > > > > Dr Adrian Midgley (In the office) wrote, On > 05/03/2007 06:40 AM: > > > Will Ross wrote: > > > > as i live in california wine country, i plan to > bring a nice bottle. > > > > our cool north pacific coastal appellation > specializes in alsatian > > > > varietals: > > > > > > I'm routed through Paris, perhaps I can snag a > bottle of Claret1[1] en > > > passant. > > > > > > Our security state has gone from relaxed to > paranoid+ recently so any > > > fluids I bring will have to be in the hold > baggage, or have been > > > purchased on the airside of the last departure > airport. To what extent > > > that affects other travellers from other places I > don't know, but be > > > aware of it. > > > > > > -- > > > Adrian Midgley > > > > > > [1] Red Bordeaux > > > _______________________________________________ > > > participants mailing list > > > participants@oshca.org > === message truncated ===> _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Mon May 7 00:13:14 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun May 6 22:48:06 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA Conference 2007, Kuala Lumpur In-Reply-To: <8ea78e010705060622y502efcd1ld34868719f26cb33@mail.gmail.com> References: <463C13A5.1050900@pc.jaring.my> <8ea78e010705060622y502efcd1ld34868719f26cb33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <463DFE9A.1010304@pc.jaring.my> Hi Fred, I've subscribed you to the OSHCA's participants list even though you're not attending the OSHCA conference. Hi everyone, let me introduce you to Fred Noronha who write and he can make you all famous :) He wishes to inteview you all for his bytesfor all.org publication. Tells him what you do and if he's interested, he'll ask you more questions etc. etc. etc. Happy interviewing Fred. Apologies, but let me just give Fred the latest programme so that he knows who to ask questions to. 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I would like to confirm my travel to KLIA by MH > 755. > > I will arrive KLIA on 14:00, And waiting for check out 15 mn + waiting for > package 15 mn. > > I have attached my 3 current pictures with my wear. I will meet you all at > KL. > > See you this evening ! > > Sicerely, > > Visal > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From tanboonteck at gmail.com Mon May 7 12:20:45 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Mon May 7 10:46:21 2007 Subject: [participants] Travel Informattion From Cambodia! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Visal, Francis managed to get my message while in Changi airport. He will wait for you. Regards, jason On 5/7/07, Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > Dear Visal, > > > There is a van coming to pick up Francisco, Alvin and Jornelyn and the > training materials, coming in at 1330 h. > > If you're fast enough, you might be able to join them. Otherwise, you > can just catch the Express Rail Link train to KL Sentral > > > On 5/7/07, Visal Doeuk wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > I am Visal from Cambodia. I would like to confirm my travel to KLIA by MH > > 755. > > > > I will arrive KLIA on 14:00, And waiting for check out 15 mn + waiting for > > package 15 mn. > > > > I have attached my 3 current pictures with my wear. I will meet you all at > > KL. > > > > See you this evening ! > > > > Sicerely, > > > > Visal > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > > > > > -- > Jason Tan Boon Teck > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From Klaus at Veil.net.au Mon May 7 13:56:28 2007 From: Klaus at Veil.net.au (Klaus D Veil) Date: Mon May 7 12:22:45 2007 Subject: [participants] Paying for OSHCA Conference 2007 and membership In-Reply-To: <4639C29F.1080805@defoam.net> Message-ID: <016401c7906c$908ce910$1183ca3e@acerkv> Has OSHCA thought about setting up PayPal for their accounts? Klaus -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Dr Adrian Midgley (In the office) Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:08 To: tchur@optusnet.com.au; OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] Paying for OSHCA Conference 2007 and membership Tim Churches wrote: > Ringgits or will you take US dollars, Euros (or even Aussie dollars? ... Direct deposit into the OSHCA account from Australia incurs rather expensive conversion fees. One day OSHCA may have accounts in several currencies, but at the moment a risk of taking other currencies is of OSHCA paying the conversion fees. Easier in-country though I'm sure. -- Adrian Midgley _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants From wross at mendocinohre.org Mon May 7 17:12:45 2007 From: wross at mendocinohre.org (Will Ross) Date: Mon May 7 15:38:46 2007 Subject: [participants] Key Signing Reminder In-Reply-To: <1176637168.3342.24.camel@oship> References: <1176637168.3342.24.camel@oship> Message-ID: <83F1D6C2-DBFA-4747-A77C-7FBEE46313E4@mendocinohre.org> tim, i'll miss the key signing event due in part to my travel logistics, becasue i have to leave the conference early in order to attend my daughter's graduation from humboldt state university in california on saturday may 12th. but for the three days i will be in kl i look forward to discussions about the concept and practice of secure keys, primarily because i do not see any current practical use for signed keys across the general health care domain, though they have excellent uses within an enterprise event horizon. that is, i dispute the notion of a generalized global web of trust for due to logistic impracticality, and in its place i assert enterprise authorities who manage trust within their respective perimeters. the objections i have may be unique to the insanely dysfunctional american medical system, where there is no top level domain to organize trust among participants. looking forward to productive discussions! with best regards, [wr] - - - - - - - - On Apr 15, 2007, at 4:39 AM, Tim Cook wrote: > I just wanted to remind everyone that if you plan to participate in > the > Key Signing Event you should read the document at > http://www.oshca.org/Members/twcook/keysigningevent/view > > I would prefer to have the information sent to me BEFORE 28 April. > Since I am not certain I will have much time to work on this between > then and the conference start. > > We sign keys because GnuPG/PGP is based upon a Web of Trust. This > web of > trust is what ensures that no one can pretend to be you and that > you can > really believe that a message you receive from Dr. Jones is really > from > Dr. Jones. The more deep and tightly inter-linked the web of trust is, > the more difficult it is to defeat. > > > Sincerely, > Tim Cook > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > [wr] - - - - - - - - will ross chief information officer mendocino health records exchange 216 west perkins street, suite 206 ukiah, california 95482 usa 707.462.6369 [office] 707.462.5015 [fax] www.mendocinohre.org - - - - - - - - "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 - - - - - - - - From haroonroedad at hotmail.com Sat May 12 23:36:42 2007 From: haroonroedad at hotmail.com (khan haroon) Date: Sat May 12 22:01:32 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA Conference 2007, Kuala Lumpur In-Reply-To: <463DFE9A.1010304@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070512/34cb5222/attachment.htm From haroonroedad at hotmail.com Sat May 12 23:44:05 2007 From: haroonroedad at hotmail.com (khan haroon) Date: Sat May 12 22:08:50 2007 Subject: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic In-Reply-To: <650952.88562.qm@web58714.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070512/36a577f9/attachment.html From nandalalx at yahoo.com Sun May 13 19:16:42 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Sun May 13 17:41:01 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: Mohan Raj In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <406812.18141.qm@web58714.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mohan is also an MBA Ph.D and is the CEO of Healthnet and has connections to Boston USA. mpradhan@healthnet.org.np He has gone to Singapore and then back to KL again, and then going back to Nepal. BTW is it true you hope to go to Mecca in December? PanaceA will meet in December and are unlikely to change that, very unlikely. Nanda --- khan haroon wrote: --------------------------------- Nanadal Great meeting you at KL. Wish we could have more time. Could you please give me Mohens (the great man) from Nepals E-mail ? regards Haroon Islamabad --------------------------------- From: Nandalal Gunaratne Reply-To: OSHCA Conference participants To: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] VistA FOSS Stack Clinic Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 02:30:25 -0700 (PDT) > >--- "K.S. Bhaskar" wrote: > > > pages of your local newspaper. But if VistA as a > > free / open source > > health care information system is a compelling > > application, and you have > > competent local programmers, getting them to pick up > > M is the least of > > your concerns. > >Glad to hear that ;-) > >I do not know any programming, except a little python >maybe. Hm! i could start with GT.M! > >Nandalal > > > > > Regards > > -- Bhaskar > > > > Ravindra De Silva wrote, On 05/04/2007 08:47 AM: > > > > > > > The problem you may have to resolve is finding > > GT.M > > > > programmers in asia or convincing them that it > > is a > > > > useful language to learn. > > > > > > > > Otherwise it is going to be difficult to push > > for it's > > > > use in a government health setting. > > > > > > I tend to agree on this from a programmers > > perspective. > > > Usually we enjoy learning a new > > technology/language when there are > > > a lot of applications. No offense , but > > unfortunately in this case the > > > experience/knowledge we gain from > > installing/customizing will not be of > > > that much use for other opportunities. and of > > course most of the > > > programmers like to say they have 5 years > > experience in JAVA, C > > > ++,PHP,ect. and i wonder how would that be here. > > How ever, for a person > > > who specializes in health care i think this is one > > of the best. > > > just my 2 cents. > > > > > > cheers > > > ravindra > > _______________________________________________ > > participants mailing list > > participants@oshca.org > > >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants --------------------------------- Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You?ll love Windows Live Hotmail. > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From haroonroedad at hotmail.com Mon May 14 12:02:51 2007 From: haroonroedad at hotmail.com (khan haroon) Date: Mon May 14 10:26:58 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: Mohan Raj In-Reply-To: <406812.18141.qm@web58714.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070514/9db7ed57/attachment.htm From ariel.betan at up.edu.ph Mon May 14 23:57:49 2007 From: ariel.betan at up.edu.ph (Ariel Betan) Date: Mon May 14 22:21:47 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all! In-Reply-To: <192b620f0705140853g217dfed4ob48193134b850590@mail.gmail.com> References: <192b620f0705140853g217dfed4ob48193134b850590@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <192b620f0705140857o7f37c00v11bf4c3119608a1b@mail.gmail.com> I just would like to thank Molly and the organizers of OSHCA 2007 for a job well done! We enjoyed our stay in KL. To the presentors, we learned a lot from you. To the participants, for the lively exchange. Hope to meet each other in the future and looking forward for continuous collaboration -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Happiness is not a destination ... Its a journey Everyday is a good day! ---------------------------------------------------------- Ariel S. Betan University of the Philippines Linux Counter Reg. Linux User # 146358 Linux Professional Institute # LPI000121339 http://free-ur-minds.com/yel From brianbong at ibeys.com Tue May 15 05:54:31 2007 From: brianbong at ibeys.com (Brian Bong) Date: Tue May 15 04:18:23 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all! In-Reply-To: <192b620f0705140857o7f37c00v11bf4c3119608a1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <192b620f0705140853g217dfed4ob48193134b850590@mail.gmail.com> <192b620f0705140857o7f37c00v11bf4c3119608a1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4648DA97.50101@ibeys.com> This is the first time I attended an open source conference and I found it a great learning session. Many thanks to the presenters in sharing their experience and know-how. Regards, Brian Bong Ariel Betan wrote: > I just would like to thank Molly and the organizers of OSHCA 2007 for > a job well done! We enjoyed our stay in KL. > > To the presentors, we learned a lot from you. > > To the participants, for the lively exchange. > > Hope to meet each other in the future and looking forward for > continuous collaboration > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Happiness is not a destination ... Its a journey > Everyday is a good day! > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Ariel S. Betan > University of the Philippines > > Linux Counter Reg. Linux User # 146358 > Linux Professional Institute # LPI000121339 > http://free-ur-minds.com/yel > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > From alvin.marcelo at gmail.com Tue May 15 09:54:34 2007 From: alvin.marcelo at gmail.com (Alvin Marcelo) Date: Tue May 15 08:18:26 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all! In-Reply-To: <192b620f0705140857o7f37c00v11bf4c3119608a1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <192b620f0705140853g217dfed4ob48193134b850590@mail.gmail.com> <192b620f0705140857o7f37c00v11bf4c3119608a1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2c9aeb960705141854p6d19b3d8h4550c5e17082f8f@mail.gmail.com> Same here. Kudos to Molly and OSHCA. Likewise to Tim Cook and the rest who chipped in with the organization and management of the conference. I would like to request for the presentation slides of the sessions if that is possible. Francis was able to obtain some of them but not all. It would be good to have them on the OSHCA website (or at least the IOSN website while OSHCA is under development). Pls email them to molly cc "francis sarmiento" Thank you. alvin On 5/14/07, Ariel Betan wrote: > > I just would like to thank Molly and the organizers of OSHCA 2007 for > a job well done! We enjoyed our stay in KL. > > To the presentors, we learned a lot from you. > > To the participants, for the lively exchange. > > Hope to meet each other in the future and looking forward for > continuous collaboration > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Happiness is not a destination ... Its a journey > Everyday is a good day! > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Ariel S. Betan > University of the Philippines > > Linux Counter Reg. Linux User # 146358 > Linux Professional Institute # LPI000121339 > http://free-ur-minds.com/yel > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Alvin B. Marcelo, MD Director National Telehealth Center University of the Philippines Manila Telefax: 632-525-6501 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070515/6407fd59/attachment.html From lseldon at alum.mit.edu Tue May 15 11:49:21 2007 From: lseldon at alum.mit.edu (Lee Seldon) Date: Tue May 15 10:13:11 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> Dear OSHCA leaders, To actually start working on inter-operability, I suggest that OSHCA set up a separate mailing list. Each application should have 1-2 members - those responsible for implementing inter-operability - on the list. An informal suggestion - to canvas your opinions on how to move forward: 1) establish a common vocabulary / minimum data set For this, find a mapping between SNOMED, HL7 v2.x or 3, LOINC, CCR (ASTM E2369 Continuity of Care Record, as different from the new HL7 Continuity of Care Document), etc. Distribute to the open-source developers and ask them to map their existing data fields to one or more of the standard vocabularies. Then find a "greatest common denominator" of data fields. 2) select a communications standard. (Preferably an XML-based one, e.g. HL7 v2.3-2.5 XML, HL7 v3, CCR). 3) depending on which standard is selected, implementation will vary 2 major barriers to the adoption of FOSS in healthcare are 1) lack of (IT) training of healthcare workers 2) lack of support for applications To address (1), OSHCA should develop "health informatics" modules which can be delivered (face-to-face, hands-on and locally) to healthcare workers in various countries. With a view towards later establishing a "support" network for FOSS applications (ad 2), I believe that you will need a "commercial" company that has employees and can sign contracts. E.g. Redhat Linux. Lee From psayo at idrc.org.in Tue May 15 12:03:28 2007 From: psayo at idrc.org.in (Phet Sayo) Date: Tue May 15 10:27:22 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all! In-Reply-To: <2c9aeb960705141854p6d19b3d8h4550c5e17082f8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006301c796a5$fe62b340$0401000a@SARO.IDRC.ORG> Hi all, I would like to also join in the thanks to the organizers for hosting us. I've learned a great deal and have a better sense of the challenges you all face (at such different levels as well). I look forward to finding out (as the agenda unfolds) what OSHCA will tackle and how. It's always great fun to get back to KL, especially getting to see familiar faces again. I hope you all had a chance to do some sightseeing and relaxation. Cheers, Phet (back in Delhi) _____ From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Alvin Marcelo Sent: May 15, 2007 7:25 AM To: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] Thank you all! Same here. Kudos to Molly and OSHCA. Likewise to Tim Cook and the rest who chipped in with the organization and management of the conference. I would like to request for the presentation slides of the sessions if that is possible. Francis was able to obtain some of them but not all. It would be good to have them on the OSHCA website (or at least the IOSN website while OSHCA is under development). Pls email them to molly cc "francis sarmiento" Thank you. alvin On 5/14/07, Ariel Betan wrote: I just would like to thank Molly and the organizers of OSHCA 2007 for a job well done! We enjoyed our stay in KL. To the presentors, we learned a lot from you. To the participants, for the lively exchange. Hope to meet each other in the future and looking forward for continuous collaboration -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Happiness is not a destination ... Its a journey Everyday is a good day! ---------------------------------------------------------- Ariel S. Betan University of the Philippines Linux Counter Reg. Linux User # 146358 Linux Professional Institute # LPI000121339 http://free-ur-minds.com/yel _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants -- Alvin B. Marcelo, MD Director National Telehealth Center University of the Philippines Manila Telefax: 632-525-6501 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070515/24e140c6/attachment.htm From alvin.marcelo at gmail.com Tue May 15 13:09:49 2007 From: alvin.marcelo at gmail.com (Alvin Marcelo) Date: Tue May 15 11:33:41 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <2c9aeb960705142209u3332c97ep1a3d1faccb51b016@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for this Lee. For PH, we will field the following to this inter-operability list: Alison Perez and Herman Tolentino for CHITS Marvin Yoingco and Mela Lapitan for ISIS (Integrated Surgical Information System) plus myself. "mela_gmail" , , "alison" < alison_perez@yahoo.com>, "Herman Tolentino" , alvin.marcelo@gmail.com On 5/15/07, Lee Seldon wrote: > > Dear OSHCA leaders, > > To actually start working on inter-operability, I suggest that OSHCA set > up a separate mailing list. Each application should have 1-2 members - > those responsible for implementing inter-operability - on the list. > > An informal suggestion - to canvas your opinions on how to move forward: > 1) establish a common vocabulary / minimum data set > For this, find a mapping between SNOMED, HL7 v2.x or 3, LOINC, CCR > (ASTM E2369 Continuity of Care Record, as different from the new HL7 > Continuity of Care Document), etc. Distribute to the open-source > developers and ask them to map their existing data fields to one or more > of the standard vocabularies. Then find a "greatest common denominator" > of data fields. > 2) select a communications standard. (Preferably an XML-based one, e.g. > HL7 v2.3-2.5 XML, HL7 v3, CCR). > 3) depending on which standard is selected, implementation will vary > > 2 major barriers to the adoption of FOSS in healthcare are > 1) lack of (IT) training of healthcare workers > 2) lack of support for applications > To address (1), OSHCA should develop "health informatics" modules which > can be delivered (face-to-face, hands-on and locally) to healthcare > workers in various countries. > With a view towards later establishing a "support" network for FOSS > applications (ad 2), I believe that you will need a "commercial" company > that has employees and can sign contracts. E.g. Redhat Linux. > > Lee > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Alvin B. Marcelo, MD Director National Telehealth Center University of the Philippines Manila Telefax: 632-525-6501 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070515/0bb2fad2/attachment.html From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Tue May 15 13:36:24 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Tue May 15 12:00:12 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <464946D8.5080602@pc.jaring.my> Dear Lee, Thanks for taking this initiative to put the interoperability question here. Clearly, this mailing list may not be appropriate as people may unsubscribe from this list after the conference. The purpose of this participants list is also for subsequent conferences/workshops. OSHCA can easily set up another list, not specifically to address interoperability but more for followup discussion and brain storming that took place at the KL Conference so that we don't loose the momentum that was started. I'm grappling with the name of this new discussion list. Here's the suggested list and I invite your views and proposals.. 1. FOSS_health@oshca.org 2. FOSS-in-health@oshca.org 3. activities@oshca.org 4. discuss@oshca.org (set up but not activated) 5. openhealth@oshca.org (set up but not activated, besides there is a openhealth list at yahoogroups that was migrated from the original list at Minoru Corporation while waiting for OSHCA to be registered.) There are three activities to be followed up, of which funding is available. 1. Refining the proposal for an Interoperability Grant, focusing on "Gap Analysis for Data Portability amongst current FOSS health applications". Related to this will be the enhancement of the OSHCA Web-portal to provide the electronic working environment for the activities of this proposal - IOSN ASEAN+3 Lee's suggestions below will provide the content for this content management system. 2. Cost analysis and comparison of deploying FOSS and proprietary systems in health care (specifically hospital/clinic/public health systems or a variation of focus) - ?IDRC 3. Modelling for capacity building in FOSS for health care in developing countries (emphasis of Africa, Latin America and Asia) - UNU-IGH. We're working on the membership list to add to the OSHCA members mailing list in preparation for the AGM before the end of 2007. The planned AGM didn't happen during the conference. Many of you were at the training on the 4th day when future road maps were discussed. So we welcome suggestions here or at the new list to be set up. Rgds, Molly Lee Seldon wrote: > Dear OSHCA leaders, > > To actually start working on inter-operability, I suggest that OSHCA > set up a separate mailing list. Each application should have 1-2 > members - those responsible for implementing inter-operability - on > the list. > > An informal suggestion - to canvas your opinions on how to move forward: > 1) establish a common vocabulary / minimum data set > For this, find a mapping between SNOMED, HL7 v2.x or 3, LOINC, CCR > (ASTM E2369 Continuity of Care Record, as different from the new HL7 > Continuity of Care Document), etc. Distribute to the open-source > developers and ask them to map their existing data fields to one or > more of the standard vocabularies. Then find a "greatest common > denominator" of data fields. > 2) select a communications standard. (Preferably an XML-based one, > e.g. HL7 v2.3-2.5 XML, HL7 v3, CCR). > 3) depending on which standard is selected, implementation will vary > > 2 major barriers to the adoption of FOSS in healthcare are > 1) lack of (IT) training of healthcare workers > 2) lack of support for applications > To address (1), OSHCA should develop "health informatics" modules > which can be delivered (face-to-face, hands-on and locally) to > healthcare workers in various countries. > With a view towards later establishing a "support" network for FOSS > applications (ad 2), I believe that you will need a "commercial" > company that has employees and can sign contracts. E.g. Redhat Linux. > > Lee > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > From tanboonteck at gmail.com Tue May 15 13:55:16 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Tue May 15 12:19:05 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: Dear Lee, Please add my name to the list on inter-operability as well. PCDOM PrimaCare is available to represent the primary care component. Regards, Jason Tan On 5/15/07, Lee Seldon wrote: > Dear OSHCA leaders, > > To actually start working on inter-operability, I suggest that OSHCA set > up a separate mailing list. Each application should have 1-2 members - > those responsible for implementing inter-operability - on the list. > > An informal suggestion - to canvas your opinions on how to move forward: > 1) establish a common vocabulary / minimum data set > For this, find a mapping between SNOMED, HL7 v2.x or 3, LOINC, CCR > (ASTM E2369 Continuity of Care Record, as different from the new HL7 > Continuity of Care Document), etc. Distribute to the open-source > developers and ask them to map their existing data fields to one or more > of the standard vocabularies. Then find a "greatest common denominator" > of data fields. > 2) select a communications standard. (Preferably an XML-based one, e.g. > HL7 v2.3-2.5 XML, HL7 v3, CCR). > 3) depending on which standard is selected, implementation will vary > > 2 major barriers to the adoption of FOSS in healthcare are > 1) lack of (IT) training of healthcare workers > 2) lack of support for applications > To address (1), OSHCA should develop "health informatics" modules which > can be delivered (face-to-face, hands-on and locally) to healthcare > workers in various countries. > With a view towards later establishing a "support" network for FOSS > applications (ad 2), I believe that you will need a "commercial" company > that has employees and can sign contracts. E.g. Redhat Linux. > > Lee > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From ravindra at opensource.lk Tue May 15 14:01:27 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Tue May 15 12:25:14 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 13:55 +0800, Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > Dear Lee, > > > Please add my name to the list on inter-operability as well. PCDOM > PrimaCare is available to represent the primary care component. if you also think interoperability with Disaster Management is necessary ,which i strongly believe in , please add my name for interoperability with SAHANA (or in general disaster management). cheers ravindra From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Tue May 15 14:22:56 2007 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Riaz Bajwa) Date: Tue May 15 12:47:33 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you note to Organizers and Next Steps Message-ID: <464951C0.7040909@googlemail.com> Dear Molly and OSHCA Team, First of all, Kudos to all of you for organizing and managing such an important activity and including us in the process. It is great to be part of the OSHCA team now and I look forward to be of as much contribution as possible. I would also like to thank IOSN South Asia as well as IOSN ASEAN for cooperating supporting participation. As future action discussions are being led forward for next steps, it is clear that there are two main requirements for us to facilitate the adoption and growth of FOSS based HIMSs, that is, Awareness and Capacity Building of Local Healthcare professionals and providing them with FOSS coupled with low-cost hardware to slash costs in implementation of such systems. Another important area to work upon is in identifying evidence of FOSS use in Health and as we already have many of such material available on the Internet, it would be very useful for us to compile smaller case studies as well as white papers in support of our objectives. Discussions should also be lead on specific lists as Molly outlined and areas that Lee has mentioned. This will help us to lead focused discussions on the topics so that we can have a single destination to refer to and seek collaborative input on such focus areas. Members of the participants lists can then eventually subscribe to the discussion lists relevant to their interest areas or explore on others areas which may have been undermined earlier. I would also like to mention that there should be seperate lists for General Discussions and Technical Discussions. The project identification and management team should also have a separate list that focuses on maturing project proposals after enquiry phase. We must not forget that if we move with our end complete on all data and information with necessary inputs as evidence, we will be able to convince donors and partners to work with us in achieving our goals. Fouad Riaz Bajwa FOSS Advocate & Member OSHCA Asia Region From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Tue May 15 14:25:07 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Tue May 15 12:48:54 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my> Ravindra De Silva wrote: >On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 13:55 +0800, Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > > >>Dear Lee, >> >> >>Please add my name to the list on inter-operability as well. PCDOM >>PrimaCare is available to represent the primary care component. >> >> > >if you also think interoperability with Disaster Management is >necessary ,which i strongly believe in , please add my name for >interoperability with SAHANA (or in general disaster management). > > > Yes, Ravi. We've already thought of a scenario where MrA was washed up (alive) during a tsunami and sent to a clinic using PrimaCare, where he was found to have developed complications and he had to be referred to the hospital using ?Hospital-OS/VistAOutreach/MyVistA/VistA VOE for investigation and further treatment. Naturally, the Health Dept using CHITS was also interested in him because he's a TB patient absconded from treatment and he's still in an infectious state. In the meantime, his wife couldn't find him and went to an NGO using SAHANA... to ask for help as their house was washed away too. Hmmm... can we have more scenarios for our write-up for funding? Molly From ravindra at opensource.lk Tue May 15 15:09:28 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Tue May 15 13:33:15 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <1179212969.4030.49.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > Yes, Ravi. We've already thought of a scenario where MrA was washed up > (alive) during a tsunami and sent to a clinic using PrimaCare, where he > was found to have developed complications and he had to be referred to > the hospital using ?Hospital-OS/VistAOutreach/MyVistA/VistA VOE for > investigation and further treatment. Naturally, the Health Dept using > CHITS was also interested in him because he's a TB patient absconded > from treatment and he's still in an infectious state. In the meantime, > his wife couldn't find him and went to an NGO using SAHANA... to ask for > help as their house was washed away too. excellent scenario! very well highlights how several systems maintain their own records of the same person. the challenge is provide one portal with info from all these records, so one can find TB data, victim data, patient record,ect with in a single click. > > Hmmm... can we have more scenarios for our write-up for funding? yes ,lets brainstorm , here are three potential scenarios from me, though not as good as the one you mentioned. 1. The hospital already has records of the patients through VISTA/OSCAR/OpenMRS/CHITS/HospitalOS,ect with their location info. Once the disaster occurs happen in location A, SAHANA can be fed with these data as potential missing persons. For an organization who makes sure ,every missing person is accounted for , this gives them a list to start with. 2. when ever a person record is entered into the health care application , we can assume that the patient is now in the hospital. now if this health care application provides some thing like an RSS feed, SAHANA installation can subscribe to that , and update the relevant missing persons as found in the hospital(by comparing name,id no,ect). 3. SAHANA has a request management system and tons of medicines pour in at the event of a disaster to match the overwhelming need. since these data is already captured in SAHANA, may be the health care application can use it get an idea of the resources and demand the health care workers needs to cater. and of course there is a lot of scope for pandemic integration for SAHANA, for which i hope to collaborate with NetEpi,ect. cheers ravindra From hmgoh at amorphous.com.my Tue May 15 15:17:20 2007 From: hmgoh at amorphous.com.my (Dr HM Goh) Date: Tue May 15 13:37:18 2007 Subject: [participants] Bridging the gap ... In-Reply-To: <2c9aeb960705142209u3332c97ep1a3d1faccb51b016@mail.gmail.com> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <2c9aeb960705142209u3332c97ep1a3d1faccb51b016@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002501c796c1$13d2b8e0$3b782aa0$@com.my> Dear all, Great to see meet some old friends at the conference. Also, it was nice to make some new friends too. There were many discussions during the conference to have a more permanent platform for interactions. Go beyond mailing list. Some suggested to me to start a phpbb forum, so those key discussions that were initiated at the conference can continue virtually. Esp those issues I highlighted at the debate (Strategic drivers: people, policy, process; Strategic enablers: infrastructure, solutions and services). There are still a lot of things to talk about. Hope to get a consensus, get some "strategic directions" / roadmap. I think we can merge the Asia Pacific Association for Medical Informatics (APAMI) online discussions which is also a mailing list. into the same phpbb forum. Once we have a critical mass, that information can be disseminated easily via the forum. I am in Singapore this week for HIMSS Asia Pacific, will get the phpbb forum up and running by end of next week. This will be a discussion forum to bridge the expectation gaps between IT community and medical fraternity.. The more immediate questions will be: How can we drive the paradigm shifts of healthcare stakeholders from "paper" to "digital" realms? (That will still be the universal challenges need to be addressed by both OPEN and PROPRIETARY community) What do you think? Regards, HM Dr Goh Hsien Ming ------------------------------------------------------------ Health Informatician Amorphous Consulting Sdn Bhd Amorphous Health Informatics Sdn Bhd 15-4-2, Level 4, Bangunan Setia 1, Lorong Dungun, Damansara Heights, 50490 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Tel: +6(012) 4 2828 40 (mobile) Tel: +6(03) 2093 28 00 (main) Fax:+6(03) 2094 27 00 Professional Affiliations Protem Committee, HL7 Malaysia Editorial Board, E-Journal of Health Informatics (http://ejhi.net ) Secretary, Malaysian Health Informatics Association (MHIA) ( www.ehealth.org.my) Chair, WG2, Asia Pacific Association for Medical Informatics (APAMI) ( www.apami.org) Committee, Strategic Planning Task Force, International Medical Informatics Association (IMIA) Board Member, International Medical Informatics Association (IMIA) ( www.imia.org) President, International Medical University (IMU) Alumni Association ( www.imu.org.my) From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Alvin Marcelo Sent: 15 May 2007 13:10 To: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list Thanks for this Lee. For PH, we will field the following to this inter-operability list: Alison Perez and Herman Tolentino for CHITS Marvin Yoingco and Mela Lapitan for ISIS (Integrated Surgical Information System) plus myself. "mela_gmail" , , "alison" < alison_perez@yahoo.com>, "Herman Tolentino" , alvin.marcelo@gmail.com On 5/15/07, Lee Seldon wrote: Dear OSHCA leaders, To actually start working on inter-operability, I suggest that OSHCA set up a separate mailing list. Each application should have 1-2 members - those responsible for implementing inter-operability - on the list. An informal suggestion - to canvas your opinions on how to move forward: 1) establish a common vocabulary / minimum data set For this, find a mapping between SNOMED, HL7 v2.x or 3, LOINC, CCR (ASTM E2369 Continuity of Care Record, as different from the new HL7 Continuity of Care Document), etc. Distribute to the open-source developers and ask them to map their existing data fields to one or more of the standard vocabularies. Then find a "greatest common denominator" of data fields. 2) select a communications standard. (Preferably an XML-based one, e.g. HL7 v2.3-2.5 XML, HL7 v3, CCR). 3) depending on which standard is selected, implementation will vary 2 major barriers to the adoption of FOSS in healthcare are 1) lack of (IT) training of healthcare workers 2) lack of support for applications To address (1), OSHCA should develop "health informatics" modules which can be delivered (face-to-face, hands-on and locally) to healthcare workers in various countries. With a view towards later establishing a "support" network for FOSS applications (ad 2), I believe that you will need a "commercial" company that has employees and can sign contracts. E.g. Redhat Linux. Lee _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants -- Alvin B. Marcelo, MD Director National Telehealth Center University of the Philippines Manila Telefax: 632-525-6501 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070515/c2403b67/attachment.htm From katepalli_vijay at yahoo.com Tue May 15 15:38:47 2007 From: katepalli_vijay at yahoo.com (vijay kumar) Date: Tue May 15 14:02:39 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all...and a Few Observations Message-ID: <88881.3344.qm@web31613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Dr.Molly and OSHCA Secretariat, I would like to thank you all for oraganising the conference and inviting me... My project "eSanjeevi Telehealth Network" is in the conceptual stage and it really helped me learn the practical implications of implimenting information systems in the healthcare. Moreover, it helped me to develop international contacts / friends to suggest and correct in the process of implementing my project. Dr. Molly, I would like to make a few points here 1. The reason for me to ask about other opensource enterprise solutions is that VistA is Mumps based and here in India we have software professionals who will be interested to work on something like Java. The advantage with our approach, is companies as big as Sun Microsystems and LINUX corporation are working on some healthcare related open source API's. My only intention is to leverage the expertise of such companies and incorporate best standards in clinical data. We have several examples of open source DICOM viewers and openPACS achieved using the standard JAVA imaging API's. 2. My other concern for open source healthcare projects is the limited number of domain experts participation. I raised the point of complaints from the medical fraternity that the clinical / doctor office solutions available right now (both commercial and opensource) have too many screens. The Doctor already has too many things to worry about and he is managing the risk and he cannot be given a software which only increases his irritation. Similar opinions are expressed by few doctors at the conference. So my idea, (at least in case of my project) is to involve the medical community in the process of design... 3. There are several telemedicine programs presented and happening thrroughout the world. I am worried about the quality of medical data that is being transmitted over the limited bandwidth. There are several standards set by IOM regarding the clinical data and efficacy of such data. I am the first to appreciate these initiatives and the way they supplement the care process, but i am equally worried about the misdiagnosis in case of not following the clinical standards. HL 7, only address the issues related to exchange of medical data but not transmission... I just reached Hyderabad and asked all my support team of doctors and software professionals to assemble tomorrow for sharing my experiences... May be a few them will be likely to be members of OSHCA... I will keep you posted of the developments. Regards VIJAY KUMAR K --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070515/65897703/attachment.html From katepalli_vijay at yahoo.com Tue May 15 15:39:25 2007 From: katepalli_vijay at yahoo.com (vijay kumar) Date: Tue May 15 14:03:17 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all...and a Few Observations Message-ID: <654198.69465.qm@web31604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Dr.Molly and OSHCA Secretariat, I would like to thank you all for oraganising the conference and inviting me... My project "eSanjeevi Telehealth Network" is in the conceptual stage and it really helped me learn the practical implications of implimenting information systems in the healthcare. Moreover, it helped me to develop international contacts / friends to suggest and correct in the process of implementing my project. Dr. Molly, I would like to make a few points here 1. The reason for me to ask about other opensource enterprise solutions is that VistA is Mumps based and here in India we have software professionals who will be interested to work on something like Java. The advantage with our approach, is companies as big as Sun Microsystems and LINUX corporation are working on some healthcare related open source API's. My only intention is to leverage the expertise of such companies and incorporate best standards in clinical data. We have several examples of open source DICOM viewers and openPACS achieved using the standard JAVA imaging API's. 2. My other concern for open source healthcare projects is the limited number of domain experts participation. I raised the point of complaints from the medical fraternity that the clinical / doctor office solutions available right now (both commercial and opensource) have too many screens. The Doctor already has too many things to worry about and he is managing the risk and he cannot be given a software which only increases his irritation. Similar opinions are expressed by few doctors at the conference. So my idea, (at least in case of my project) is to involve the medical community in the process of design... 3. There are several telemedicine programs presented and happening thrroughout the world. I am worried about the quality of medical data that is being transmitted over the limited bandwidth. There are several standards set by IOM regarding the clinical data and efficacy of such data. I am the first to appreciate these initiatives and the way they supplement the care process, but i am equally worried about the misdiagnosis in case of not following the clinical standards. HL 7, only address the issues related to exchange of medical data but not transmission... I just reached Hyderabad and asked all my support team of doctors and software professionals to assemble tomorrow for sharing my experiences... May be a few them will be likely to be members of OSHCA... I will keep you posted of the developments. Regards VIJAY KUMAR K --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070515/af4876a8/attachment.htm From katepalli_vijay at yahoo.com Tue May 15 15:40:51 2007 From: katepalli_vijay at yahoo.com (vijay kumar) Date: Tue May 15 14:04:45 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all...and a Few Observations Message-ID: <630438.8268.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Dr.Molly and OSHCA Secretariat, I would like to thank you all for oraganising the conference and inviting me... My project "eSanjeevi Telehealth Network" is in the conceptual stage and it really helped me learn the practical implications of implimenting information systems in the healthcare. Moreover, it helped me to develop international contacts / friends to suggest and correct in the process of implementing my project. Dr. Molly, I would like to make a few points here 1. The reason for me to ask about other opensource enterprise solutions is that VistA is Mumps based and here in India we have software professionals who will be interested to work on something like Java. The advantage with our approach, is companies as big as Sun Microsystems and LINUX corporation are working on some healthcare related open source API's. My only intention is to leverage the expertise of such companies and incorporate best standards in clinical data. We have several examples of open source DICOM viewers and openPACS achieved using the standard JAVA imaging API's. 2. My other concern for open source healthcare projects is the limited number of domain experts participation. I raised the point of complaints from the medical fraternity that the clinical / doctor office solutions available right now (both commercial and opensource) have too many screens. The Doctor already has too many things to worry about and he is managing the risk and he cannot be given a software which only increases his irritation. Similar opinions are expressed by few doctors at the conference. So my idea, (at least in case of my project) is to involve the medical community in the process of design... 3. There are several telemedicine programs presented and happening thrroughout the world. I am worried about the quality of medical data that is being transmitted over the limited bandwidth. There are several standards set by IOM regarding the clinical data and efficacy of such data. I am the first to appreciate these initiatives and the way they supplement the care process, but i am equally worried about the misdiagnosis in case of not following the clinical standards. HL 7, only address the issues related to exchange of medical data but not transmission... I just reached Hyderabad and asked all my support team of doctors and software professionals to assemble tomorrow for sharing my experiences... May be a few them will be likely to be members of OSHCA... I will keep you posted of the developments. Regards VIJAY KUMAR K --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070515/eef4e56c/attachment.html From katepalli_vijay at yahoo.com Tue May 15 15:40:54 2007 From: katepalli_vijay at yahoo.com (vijay kumar) Date: Tue May 15 14:04:53 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all...and a Few Observations Message-ID: <884587.70625.qm@web31615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Dr.Molly and OSHCA Secretariat, I would like to thank you all for oraganising the conference and inviting me... My project "eSanjeevi Telehealth Network" is in the conceptual stage and it really helped me learn the practical implications of implimenting information systems in the healthcare. Moreover, it helped me to develop international contacts / friends to suggest and correct in the process of implementing my project. Dr. Molly, I would like to make a few points here 1. The reason for me to ask about other opensource enterprise solutions is that VistA is Mumps based and here in India we have software professionals who will be interested to work on something like Java. The advantage with our approach, is companies as big as Sun Microsystems and LINUX corporation are working on some healthcare related open source API's. My only intention is to leverage the expertise of such companies and incorporate best standards in clinical data. We have several examples of open source DICOM viewers and openPACS achieved using the standard JAVA imaging API's. 2. My other concern for open source healthcare projects is the limited number of domain experts participation. I raised the point of complaints from the medical fraternity that the clinical / doctor office solutions available right now (both commercial and opensource) have too many screens. The Doctor already has too many things to worry about and he is managing the risk and he cannot be given a software which only increases his irritation. Similar opinions are expressed by few doctors at the conference. So my idea, (at least in case of my project) is to involve the medical community in the process of design... 3. There are several telemedicine programs presented and happening thrroughout the world. I am worried about the quality of medical data that is being transmitted over the limited bandwidth. There are several standards set by IOM regarding the clinical data and efficacy of such data. I am the first to appreciate these initiatives and the way they supplement the care process, but i am equally worried about the misdiagnosis in case of not following the clinical standards. HL 7, only address the issues related to exchange of medical data but not transmission... I just reached Hyderabad and asked all my support team of doctors and software professionals to assemble tomorrow for sharing my experiences... May be a few them will be likely to be members of OSHCA... I will keep you posted of the developments. Regards VIJAY KUMAR K --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070515/3bb2f1ad/attachment.htm From katepalli_vijay at yahoo.com Tue May 15 15:42:34 2007 From: katepalli_vijay at yahoo.com (vijay kumar) Date: Tue May 15 14:06:29 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all...and a Few Observations Message-ID: <1249.8986.qm@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Dr.Molly and OSHCA Secretariat, I would like to thank you all for oraganising the conference and inviting me... My project "eSanjeevi Telehealth Network" is in the conceptual stage and it really helped me learn the practical implications of implimenting information systems in the healthcare. Moreover, it helped me to develop international contacts / friends to suggest and correct in the process of implementing my project. Dr. Molly, I would like to make a few points here 1. The reason for me to ask about other opensource enterprise solutions is that VistA is Mumps based and here in India we have software professionals who will be interested to work on something like Java. The advantage with our approach, is companies as big as Sun Microsystems and LINUX corporation are working on some healthcare related open source API's. My only intention is to leverage the expertise of such companies and incorporate best standards in clinical data. We have several examples of open source DICOM viewers and openPACS achieved using the standard JAVA imaging API's. 2. My other concern for open source healthcare projects is the limited number of domain experts participation. I raised the point of complaints from the medical fraternity that the clinical / doctor office solutions available right now (both commercial and opensource) have too many screens. The Doctor already has too many things to worry about and he is managing the risk and he cannot be given a software which only increases his irritation. Similar opinions are expressed by few doctors at the conference. So my idea, (at least in case of my project) is to involve the medical community in the process of design... 3. There are several telemedicine programs presented and happening thrroughout the world. I am worried about the quality of medical data that is being transmitted over the limited bandwidth. There are several standards set by IOM regarding the clinical data and efficacy of such data. I am the first to appreciate these initiatives and the way they supplement the care process, but i am equally worried about the misdiagnosis in case of not following the clinical standards. HL 7, only address the issues related to exchange of medical data but not transmission... I just reached Hyderabad and asked all my support team of doctors and software professionals to assemble tomorrow for sharing my experiences... May be a few them will be likely to be members of OSHCA... I will keep you posted of the developments. Regards VIJAY KUMAR K --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070515/49e8e3d9/attachment.html From yelbetan at gmail.com Mon May 14 23:53:31 2007 From: yelbetan at gmail.com (Ariel Betan) Date: Tue May 15 14:26:41 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all! Message-ID: <192b620f0705140853g217dfed4ob48193134b850590@mail.gmail.com> I just would like to thank Molly and the organizers of OSHCA 2007 for a job well done! We enjoyed our stay in KL. To the presentors, we learned a lot from you. To the participants, for the lively exchange. Hope to meet each other in the future and looking forward for continuous collaboration -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Happiness is not a destination ... Its a journey Everyday is a good day! ---------------------------------------------------------- Ariel S. Betan University of the Philippines Linux Counter Reg. Linux User # 146358 Linux Professional Institute # LPI000121339 http://free-ur-minds.com/yel From ravindra at opensource.lk Tue May 15 16:26:46 2007 From: ravindra at opensource.lk (Ravindra De Silva) Date: Tue May 15 14:50:35 2007 Subject: [participants] Thank you all! In-Reply-To: <192b620f0705140853g217dfed4ob48193134b850590@mail.gmail.com> References: <192b620f0705140853g217dfed4ob48193134b850590@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1179217606.4030.56.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> > I just would like to thank Molly and the organizers of OSHCA 2007 for > a job well done! We enjoyed our stay in KL. I also would like to thank Molly and rest of the organizing committee for a job well done ! How ever , i regret that i was unable to attend some interesting sessions that were in parallel to either OSCHA members meeting or to other interesting sessions. But that highlights the fact that there were so many interesting sessions , you simply cannot attend all you want to. I assume i am an OSCHA member now as i submitted my application and paid for it :) , please correct me if i am wrong. and I will do my best to contribute to OSCHA events and initiatives as an OSCHA member. thanks and regards Ravindra From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Tue May 15 19:39:52 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Tue May 15 18:03:38 2007 Subject: [participants] Conference Report to Funders Message-ID: <46499C08.3040500@pc.jaring.my> Dear all, One of OSHCA's task will be reporting to the funders. I will outline the conference deliverables in the course of the next 2 weeks so that participants can contribute towards this report as we did not have a formal evaluation. However, one of the deliverables is making available the presentation you made at the conference and training sessions. If you have not given them to either Tim Cook or Tim Churches before you left KL, please email the presentation(s) to conference@oshca.org as soon as possible so that I will have no problem meeting the reporting dateline as stated in our grant contract. OSHCA will make available our report, including the presentations to the public as required. Views from some participants had expressed that we make this available under the Creative Commons License. Thank you for your cooperation, Molly From jel at wildmedic.org Wed May 16 00:24:12 2007 From: jel at wildmedic.org (Jel Coward) Date: Tue May 15 22:47:57 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4649DEAC.9080305@wildmedic.org> Lee Seldon wrote: > With a view towards later establishing a "support" network for FOSS > applications (ad 2), I believe that you will need a "commercial" company > that has employees and can sign contracts. E.g. Redhat Linux. > Such things do already exist with open-source health care software. Here in Canada there are a companies providing support and installation support for OSCAR (an EMR). http://oscarcanada.org Declaration of interest - I run one of them :-) I would like to add my words of thanks to Molly and all the organisers - it was a fantastic conference that I found energising. It has fired me up to make more noise here about the importance of choosing open-source tools. I might share some of the emails I have been sending at some stage (I will wait and see how much trouble they get me into first ;-) Regards to all Jel Coward (back in Canada) http://oscarcanada.org From jel at wildmedic.org Wed May 16 00:28:12 2007 From: jel at wildmedic.org (Jel Coward) Date: Tue May 15 22:51:54 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <464946D8.5080602@pc.jaring.my> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <464946D8.5080602@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <4649DF9C.2080402@wildmedic.org> Molly Cheah wrote: > Dear Lee, > > Thanks for taking this initiative to put the interoperability question > here. Clearly, this mailing list may not be appropriate as people may > unsubscribe from this list after the conference. The purpose of this > participants list is also for subsequent conferences/workshops. > I would join an interoperability list. > OSHCA can easily set up another list, not specifically to address > interoperability but more for followup discussion and brain storming > that took place at the KL Conference so that we don't loose the momentum > that was started. I'm grappling with the name of this new discussion > list. Here's the suggested list and I invite your views and proposals.. > 1. FOSS_health@oshca.org > 2. FOSS-in-health@oshca.org > 3. activities@oshca.org > 4. discuss@oshca.org (set up but not activated) > 5. openhealth@oshca.org (set up but not activated, besides there is a > openhealth list at yahoogroups that was migrated from the original list > at Minoru Corporation while waiting for OSHCA to be registered.) I like FOSS_health > > There are three activities to be followed up, of which funding is > available. > > 2. Cost analysis and comparison of deploying FOSS and proprietary > systems in health care (specifically hospital/clinic/public health > systems or a variation of focus) - ?IDRC I might be able to help with that. I think I may know a practice that recently compared proprietary to open-source EMR implementation costs. All the best Jel Coward From bhyz at mac.com Wed May 16 01:29:00 2007 From: bhyz at mac.com (Boh Heong Yap) Date: Tue May 15 23:52:54 2007 Subject: Re(2): [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <20070515172900.17921@smtp.mac.com> hi all, Put me on for the Interoperability team whatever.... All I can say is good conference!, and I have been to many, mostly IT related, but not health related! The organising team did a great job, albeit on short notice, I understand.. let me say a few things as a 'newcomer' to the health industry, before proceeding to interoperability issues. In most other conferences the central theme seems to be, how do I make more money?!, For the vendor, out of the end-user; by locking them in to expensive training, services, HW etc... For the user, normally a business/entreprise, out of the customer, by making them buy stuff they don't really need... that's what CRM's are for! But in this health conference, the underlying theme seems to be how we can provide better services to stakeholders, be they doctors, patients or IT professionals, and basically saving lives.... a very refreshing perspective for this jaded and sometimes cynical IT guy.... Having said that... lets move on to interoperability. This reiterates a 'water cooler' discussion I had with a few ppl at the conf, on how to handle the inteoprability issues. Take up the suggestion to address 'Point-to-point' interoperability FIRST. What this means is something like this: Suppose SAHANA needs to pass data to NetEPI, then only addres the API from SAHANA to NetAPI. What needs to be done is map the (data) fields form SAHANA to those in NetEPI. So in this case, the NetEPI guys will define an API consisting of: - the required fields and data types (including NULLs and ho they shld be handled, programmers wil know what I mean) - some sample code, in Python, PHP etc... - a test-bed, ie: a small application where the interfacing developer (the one sending data to NetEPI) can test his application against. ie: send a specific data-set to the test bed, and the test bed returns the result, (together with errors, if any) which can be compared to a set of expected results. The ADVANTAGES are: A competent coder can implement an API, and get interoperability between 2 apps. in abt 1 week per record type, ie: EHR Can test and verify the API works by testg against the test-bed, without bothering the interfacee (party recvg the data) too much. Having said that, it has a few DISADVANTAGES! A new API needs to be developed for ANY OTHER application to any other app. (application). Obviously NOT HL7 compliant, if we need to meet any RFP (Request For Proposal) specs. (We can avoid the above pt. if we are talking within OSCHA, which can be its own 'standards body'... but result in the next pt!) OSHCA may be seen as a politically incorrect 'bad boy' for not supporting HL7 Ultimately we need to go for HL7. However there is a compromise... (note: I apologise, beforehand, if I do not make sense, being ignorant about HL7!) I spoke to Lee Seldon, whose HL7 knowledge is much better than mine, he advised that we go with HL7, and work with a subset of the code, and he has been kind enough to send me some sample PHP code.. I think this is a viable approach. For me as a developer, the apprehension is having to spend a fair bit of time muddling thru the HL7 standards on the limited bandwidth that I already have. If some HL7 'experts' have done it and can: 1. come out with a simple "HL7 HOWTO" in true Linux tradition. Sample code is be useful too.. 2. Help us identify the exact subset a specific application requires... this is better done from the the 'interfacee' end (party receving data) If they can specify the data fields/formats, so the 'HL7 experts' can then define the subset. With the above then the developers can figure out a how to send a HL7 message whatever that means.. and also develop the "test-bed" for the various receiving apps. as well. Does that make sense? I for one will definitely need if for my Lab system! If this makes sense, can we take this onto a seperate 'interaoperabillity forum' and form a core team to talk about this... and bundle this into a project? >Ravindra De Silva wrote: > >>On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 13:55 +0800, Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: >> >> >>>Dear Lee, >>> >>> >>>Please add my name to the list on inter-operability as well. PCDOM >>>PrimaCare is available to represent the primary care component. >>> >>> >> >>if you also think interoperability with Disaster Management is >>necessary ,which i strongly believe in , please add my name for >>interoperability with SAHANA (or in general disaster management). >> >> >> >Yes, Ravi. We've already thought of a scenario where MrA was washed up >(alive) during a tsunami and sent to a clinic using PrimaCare, where he >was found to have developed complications and he had to be referred to >the hospital using ?Hospital-OS/VistAOutreach/MyVistA/VistA VOE for >investigation and further treatment. Naturally, the Health Dept using >CHITS was also interested in him because he's a TB patient absconded >from treatment and he's still in an infectious state. In the meantime, >his wife couldn't find him and went to an NGO using SAHANA... to ask for >help as their house was washed away too. > >Hmmm... can we have more scenarios for our write-up for funding? > >Molly >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants From alvin.marcelo at gmail.com Wed May 16 09:29:13 2007 From: alvin.marcelo at gmail.com (Alvin Marcelo) Date: Wed May 16 07:52:53 2007 Subject: Re(2): [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <20070515172900.17921@smtp.mac.com> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my> <20070515172900.17921@smtp.mac.com> Message-ID: <2c9aeb960705151829q7231d4d1sb154960d00ba023d@mail.gmail.com> Hi Boh, I for one agree that the approach FOSS should have for HL7 is by subsets and by transaction needs; ie, if CHITS needs to throw data to your hematology app, then we agree to use the HL7 subset to do just that. The challenge is in establishing the 'relationship' between CHITS and your hema app (signed keys, etc), and in choosing which subsets to deploy. Approaching the data exchange by need/transaction is simple enough (if the subsets are small). For as long as our small discrete messages are HL7 based then we shouldn't be afraid that we're creating a totally new language (which can indeed be politically incorrect). On 5/16/07, Boh Heong Yap wrote: > > hi all, > > Put me on for the Interoperability team whatever.... > > All I can say is good conference!, and I have been to many, mostly IT > related, but not health related! The organising team did a great job, > albeit on short notice, I understand.. > > let me say a few things as a 'newcomer' to the health industry, before > proceeding to interoperability issues. > > In most other conferences the central theme seems to be, how do I make > more money?!, For the vendor, out of the end-user; by locking them in to > expensive training, services, HW etc... For the user, normally a > business/entreprise, out of the customer, by making them buy stuff they > don't really need... that's what CRM's are for! > > But in this health conference, the underlying theme seems to be how we > can provide better services to stakeholders, be they doctors, patients > or IT professionals, and basically saving lives.... a very refreshing > perspective for this jaded and sometimes cynical IT guy.... > > > Having said that... lets move on to interoperability. > > This reiterates a 'water cooler' discussion I had with a few ppl at the > conf, on how to handle the inteoprability issues. > > Take up the suggestion to address 'Point-to-point' interoperability > FIRST. What this means is something like this: > > Suppose SAHANA needs to pass data to NetEPI, > > then only addres the API from SAHANA to NetAPI. What needs to be done is > map the (data) fields form SAHANA to those in NetEPI. So in this case, > the NetEPI guys will define an API consisting of: > > - the required fields and data types > (including NULLs and ho they shld be handled, programmers wil know > what I mean) > > - some sample code, in Python, PHP etc... > > - a test-bed, ie: a small application where the interfacing developer > (the one sending data to NetEPI) can test his application against. > ie: send a specific data-set to the test bed, and the test bed > returns the result, (together with errors, if any) which can be > compared to a set of expected results. > > The ADVANTAGES are: > > A competent coder can implement an API, and get interoperability > between 2 apps. in abt 1 week per record type, ie: EHR > > Can test and verify the API works by testg against the test-bed, > without bothering the interfacee (party recvg the data) too much. > > Having said that, it has a few DISADVANTAGES! > > A new API needs to be developed for ANY OTHER application to > any other app. (application). > > Obviously NOT HL7 compliant, if we need to meet any RFP > (Request For Proposal) specs. > > (We can avoid the above pt. if we are talking within OSCHA, > which can be its own 'standards body'... > but result in the next pt!) > > OSHCA may be seen as a politically incorrect 'bad boy' for not > supporting HL7 > > > Ultimately we need to go for HL7. > > However there is a compromise... > > (note: I apologise, beforehand, if I do not make sense, being ignorant > about HL7!) > > I spoke to Lee Seldon, whose HL7 knowledge is much better than mine, he > advised that we go with HL7, and work with a subset of the code, and he > has been kind enough to send me some sample PHP code.. I think this is a > viable approach. For me as a developer, the apprehension is having to > spend a fair bit of time muddling thru the HL7 standards on the limited > bandwidth that I already have. > > If some HL7 'experts' have done it and can: > > 1. come out with a simple "HL7 HOWTO" in true Linux tradition. Sample > code is be useful too.. > > 2. Help us identify the exact subset a specific application > requires... > this is better done from the the 'interfacee' end (party > receving data) > If they can specify the data fields/formats, so the 'HL7 experts' > can then define the subset. > > With the above then the developers can figure out a how to send a HL7 > message whatever that means.. and also develop the "test-bed" for the > various receiving apps. as well. > > Does that make sense? > > I for one will definitely need if for my Lab system! > > If this makes sense, can we take this onto a seperate > 'interaoperabillity forum' and form a core team to talk about this... > and bundle this into a project? > > >Ravindra De Silva wrote: > > > >>On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 13:55 +0800, Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Dear Lee, > >>> > >>> > >>>Please add my name to the list on inter-operability as well. PCDOM > >>>PrimaCare is available to represent the primary care component. > >>> > >>> > >> > >>if you also think interoperability with Disaster Management is > >>necessary ,which i strongly believe in , please add my name for > >>interoperability with SAHANA (or in general disaster management). > >> > >> > >> > >Yes, Ravi. We've already thought of a scenario where MrA was washed up > >(alive) during a tsunami and sent to a clinic using PrimaCare, where he > >was found to have developed complications and he had to be referred to > >the hospital using ?Hospital-OS/VistAOutreach/MyVistA/VistA VOE for > >investigation and further treatment. Naturally, the Health Dept using > >CHITS was also interested in him because he's a TB patient absconded > >from treatment and he's still in an infectious state. In the meantime, > >his wife couldn't find him and went to an NGO using SAHANA... to ask for > >help as their house was washed away too. > > > >Hmmm... can we have more scenarios for our write-up for funding? > > > >Molly > >_______________________________________________ > >participants mailing list > >participants@oshca.org > >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Alvin B. Marcelo, MD Director National Telehealth Center University of the Philippines Manila Telefax: 632-525-6501 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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An OSHCA list would be most appropriate, but otherwise maybe a Yahoo group or even Skype, or we could each make our own list (of one another). 2) The point-to-point interface would be quickest, but I myself would only be interested in a generic approach involving all applications, so as to establish interoperability not only here and now, but also for the future. 3) It should not be necessary (or useful) for everybody to study HL7. As long as at least one person (project manager?) knows enough, he/she can answer questions. 4) http://www.ahml.com.au/ is the best place to test your message compliance. Lee From au.jaiganesh at gmail.com Wed May 16 11:58:09 2007 From: au.jaiganesh at gmail.com (Jai Ganesh) Date: Wed May 16 10:21:48 2007 Subject: Re(2): [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <2c9aeb960705151829q7231d4d1sb154960d00ba023d@mail.gmail.com> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my> <20070515172900.17921@smtp.mac.com> <2c9aeb960705151829q7231d4d1sb154960d00ba023d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I agree with Alvin. Regards Jai On 5/16/07, Alvin Marcelo wrote: > > Hi Boh, > > I for one agree that the approach FOSS should have for HL7 is by subsets > and by transaction needs; ie, if CHITS needs to throw data to your > hematology app, then we agree to use the HL7 subset to do just that. 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URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070516/93f1cc92/attachment.htm From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 16 12:14:52 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 16 10:38:35 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <464A7771.90501@alum.mit.edu> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my> <20070515172900.17921@smtp.mac.com> <2c9aeb960705151829q7231d4d1sb154960d00ba023d@mail.gmail.com> <464A7771.90501@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <464A853C.1090404@pc.jaring.my> It is wonderful to see the enthusiasm here. While I'm trying to absorb all these discussions and at the same time attend to my own urgent urgent outstanding work, I can't respond as fast as Lee's expectation of his preference for a dedicated list on interoperability. I fear such dedicated lists will fragment the OSHCA community which I'm trying to co-ordinate during the conference to be followed by post-conference activities. While the pros and cons are being thought through by OSHCA management, the participants list does not deter further discussions here. It will be difficult for OSHCA to subsequently coordinate the discussions and decisions made on third party lists and on other different platforms which I don't think are interoperable. I've asked Soo Hoe who had been creating and organising the mailing lists for OSHCA to look into this. I've just talked to him on the phone and he will post on this matter later today. In the meantime please be patient and continue with the discussions here and we'll move the relevant archives to where it should be. There are several outstanding matters that a few of us are still addressing. One example is the temporary wiki (with content) sitting in the box that was set up during the conference for participants to input. It's still in the black box and I'm sure there are inputs on interoperability there. My headache is: how do I move that information to the OSHCA web-portal.... I really don't want to burden participants with management matters. As one participant said to me on my juggling with available funds, "what has that to do with me?" That's part of my learning process on community and community development. Rgds, Molly Lee Seldon wrote: > Alvin Boh et al. > This interoperability discussion seems to be progressing faster than I > expected, but > 1) I would REALLY prefer to pursue it in a dedicated list, so as not > to clutter up everybody's email. An OSHCA list would be most > appropriate, but otherwise maybe a Yahoo group or even Skype, or we > could each make our own list (of one another). > 2) The point-to-point interface would be quickest, but I myself would > only be interested in a generic approach involving all applications, > so as to establish interoperability not only here and now, but also > for the future. > 3) It should not be necessary (or useful) for everybody to study HL7. > As long as at least one person (project manager?) knows enough, he/she > can answer questions. > 4) http://www.ahml.com.au/ is the best place to test your message > compliance. > Lee > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > From tw_cook at comcast.net Wed May 16 12:47:44 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Wed May 16 11:11:23 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <464A853C.1090404@pc.jaring.my> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my> <20070515172900.17921@smtp.mac.com> <2c9aeb960705151829q7231d4d1sb154960d00ba023d@mail.gmail.com> <464A7771.90501@alum.mit.edu> <464A853C.1090404@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <1179290864.3548.104.camel@oship> On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 12:14 +0800, Molly Cheah wrote: > activities. While the pros and cons are being thought through by OSHCA > management, the participants list does not deter further discussions here. That is very true. This is a good place to maintain the current momentum. I do not think it will be so busy as to be a nuisance. > > It will be difficult for OSHCA to subsequently coordinate the > discussions and decisions made on third party lists and on other > different platforms which I don't think are interoperable. > This is a very good point. I think it will diminish the momentum from the conference as the discussions splinter. OSHCA has achieved a truly international attraction. If we start dividing up again it will be detrimental to the progress. > I've asked Soo Hoe who had been creating and organising the mailing > lists for OSHCA to look into this. I've just talked to him on the phone > and he will post on this matter later today. In the meantime please be > patient and continue with the discussions here and we'll move the > relevant archives to where it should be. At this point I think whether it is the discuss@oshca or FOSShealth@oshca it is important that we have a list where the results of the conference can be discussed and shared with others. We should use only one list to encourage discussion. > > There are several outstanding matters that a few of us are still > addressing. One example is the temporary wiki (with content) sitting in > the box that was set up during the conference for participants to input. I'll mention this here but I'll be available to help whomever is on the ground there to do the work. You must have file level access to do this. 1. Install the ZWiki product on the OSHCA server. 2. Export the ZWiki items from the appserver. To do this look at the contents of the folder, check them all and click on export (In the ZMI) 3. Move the ?????????.zexp file to the import directory of the OSHCA server. 4. Follow the import instructions in the ZMI. > I really don't want to burden participants > with management matters. As one participant said to me on my juggling > with available funds, "what has that to do with me?" That's part of my > learning process on community and community development. Hmmmm, well, my two cents. I have no idea who that participant was so if it was "you" then take this to heart. If it wasn't then feel free to comment as needed. :-) You need to realize that this was not a professionally run conference. It was put together primarily by people that make their living off of their knowledge and experience by the hour/by the project. People, like Molly, have donated hundreds of hours to make this organization and this conference work. Many people here have recognized that and have sent very nice emails in appreciation. The person that made that comment needs to understand that this is a community effort. While we all need to eat you should have the ideal in your heart that enough cash will come when you do the right thing(s). Get greedy and this is not the environment for you. Frankly, if you were not happy with the way things ran you could have simply offered a solution. You should also be first in line to coordinate the next conference. > It's still in the black box and I'm sure there are inputs on > interoperability there. My headache is: how do I move that information > to the OSHCA web-portal.... Please see above and have whomever is on the ground there contact me at anytime (you may want to try the telephone if I'm sleeping). I'm UTC +5 Cheers, Tim -- Timothy Cook, MSc Health Informatics Research Services http://home.comcast.net/~tw_cook/ 01-904-322-8582 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: "Andrew Kanter, USA" Subject: [hifa2015] Pocket PC-based programs for Village Health Workers Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:12:33 -0400 Size: 3669 Url: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070516/34cddabc/hifa2015PocketPC-basedprogramsforVillageHealthWorkers.mht From bhyz at mac.com Wed May 16 14:23:48 2007 From: bhyz at mac.com (Boh Heong Yap) Date: Wed May 16 12:47:34 2007 Subject: Re(2): [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <1179290864.3548.104.camel@oship> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my> <20070515172900.17921@smtp.mac.com> <2c9aeb960705151829q7231d4d1sb154960d00ba023d@mail.gmail.com> <464A7771.90501@alum.mit.edu> <464A853C.1090404@pc.jaring.my> <1179290864.3548.104.camel@oship> Message-ID: <20070516062348.1708@smtp.mac.com> hi Tim, and all just my 2 cents worth: can we have the interoperability exchanges/discussion on a wiki? the OSHCA Plone engine shld allow one to be set-up, a wiki may better serve to preserve the 'knowledge-base', perhaps make it publically viewable?, and those that want to contribute can sign-in. (maybe need to discuss how to manage/control write-access list?) Trouble with mail-list is I subscribe to a few, and my mailbox is too full!, mail is more difficult to manage and searching is a pain... --boh-- >On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 12:14 +0800, Molly Cheah wrote: > >> activities. While the pros and cons are being thought through by OSHCA >> management, the participants list does not deter further discussions here. > >That is very true. This is a good place to maintain the current >momentum. I do not think it will be so busy as to be a nuisance. > >> >> It will be difficult for OSHCA to subsequently coordinate the >> discussions and decisions made on third party lists and on other >> different platforms which I don't think are interoperable. >> > >This is a very good point. I think it will diminish the momentum from >the conference as the discussions splinter. OSHCA has achieved a truly >international attraction. If we start dividing up again it will be >detrimental to the progress. > > >> I've asked Soo Hoe who had been creating and organising the mailing >> lists for OSHCA to look into this. I've just talked to him on the phone >> and he will post on this matter later today. In the meantime please be >> patient and continue with the discussions here and we'll move the >> relevant archives to where it should be. > >At this point I think whether it is the discuss@oshca or >FOSShealth@oshca it is important that we have a list where the results >of the conference can be discussed and shared with others. We should >use only one list to encourage discussion. > >> >> There are several outstanding matters that a few of us are still >> addressing. One example is the temporary wiki (with content) sitting in >> the box that was set up during the conference for participants to input. > >I'll mention this here but I'll be available to help whomever is on the >ground there to do the work. You must have file level access to do >this. > >1. Install the ZWiki product on the OSHCA server. >2. Export the ZWiki items from the appserver. To do this look at the >contents of the folder, check them all and click on export (In the ZMI) >3. Move the ?????????.zexp file to the import directory of the OSHCA >server. >4. Follow the import instructions in the ZMI. > >> I really don't want to burden participants >> with management matters. As one participant said to me on my juggling >> with available funds, "what has that to do with me?" That's part of my >> learning process on community and community development. > > >Hmmmm, well, my two cents. >I have no idea who that participant was so if it was "you" then take >this to heart. If it wasn't then feel free to comment as needed. :-) > >You need to realize that this was not a professionally run conference. >It was put together primarily by people that make their living off of >their knowledge and experience by the hour/by the project. People, like >Molly, have donated hundreds of hours to make this organization and this >conference work. Many people here have recognized that and have sent >very nice emails in appreciation. > >The person that made that comment needs to understand that this is a >community effort. While we all need to eat you should have the ideal in >your heart that enough cash will come when you do the right thing(s). >Get greedy and this is not the environment for you. > >Frankly, if you were not happy with the way things ran you could have >simply offered a solution. You should also be first in line to >coordinate the next conference. > > > > > >> It's still in the black box and I'm sure there are inputs on >> interoperability there. My headache is: how do I move that information >> to the OSHCA web-portal.... > >Please see above and have whomever is on the ground there contact me at >anytime (you may want to try the telephone if I'm sleeping). I'm UTC +5 > > >Cheers, >Tim > > >-- >Timothy Cook, MSc >Health Informatics Research Services >http://home.comcast.net/~tw_cook/ >01-904-322-8582 >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants regards, -- Boh Heong, Yap email: bhyz@mac.com mobile: +6016 321 7250 From Klaus at Veil.net.au Wed May 16 15:07:23 2007 From: Klaus at Veil.net.au (Klaus D Veil) Date: Wed May 16 13:31:07 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <464A7771.90501@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <005601c79788$db8f0c40$09648255@acerkv> Also, if some of you want a simple HL7 FAQ (or provide this to a colleague), go to: www.HL7.com.au/FAQ.htm Klaus ?????HL7 Australia ___________________________________________ PO Box 3289,? WESTON CREEK 2611,? Australia Phone: +61 412 746 457 ?? ??Fax:? +61 2 9475 0685 E-mail: Chair@HL7.org.au?? Web: www.HL7.org.au ____________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Lee Seldon Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 13:16 To: alvin.marcelo@telehealth.ph; OSHCA Conference participants Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list Alvin Boh et al. This interoperability discussion seems to be progressing faster than I expected, but 1) I would REALLY prefer to pursue it in a dedicated list, so as not to clutter up everybody's email. An OSHCA list would be most appropriate, but otherwise maybe a Yahoo group or even Skype, or we could each make our own list (of one another). 2) The point-to-point interface would be quickest, but I myself would only be interested in a generic approach involving all applications, so as to establish interoperability not only here and now, but also for the future. 3) It should not be necessary (or useful) for everybody to study HL7. As long as at least one person (project manager?) knows enough, he/she can answer questions. 4) http://www.ahml.com.au/ is the best place to test your message compliance. Lee _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants From Klaus at Veil.net.au Wed May 16 15:07:23 2007 From: Klaus at Veil.net.au (Klaus D Veil) Date: Wed May 16 13:31:17 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <464A853C.1090404@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <006001c79788$e00c2ff0$09648255@acerkv> Molly, I really missed catching up with all conference participants in KL, but am very happy to assist in any way I can with the OSHCA interoperability effort. Klaus _______________________________________ Klaus D Veil Research Fellow, University of Ballarat, Australia Chair, Standards Australia IT014-06-03 Chair, HL7 Australia Director, HL7 Board HL7.org (USA) Certified V2.4 & V2.5 Specialist Principal, HL7 Systems & Services Mob: +61 412 746 457 Skype ID: "KlausDVeil" Fax: +61 2 9475 0303 E-mail: Klaus@Veil.net.au ?????HL7 Australia ___________________________________________ PO Box 3289,? WESTON CREEK 2611,? Australia Phone: +61 412 746 457 ?? ??Fax:? +61 2 9475 0685 E-mail: Chair@HL7.org.au?? Web: www.HL7.org.au ____________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Molly Cheah Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:15 To: OSHCA Conference participants Subject: Re: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list It is wonderful to see the enthusiasm here. While I'm trying to absorb all these discussions and at the same time attend to my own urgent urgent outstanding work, I can't respond as fast as Lee's expectation of his preference for a dedicated list on interoperability. I fear such dedicated lists will fragment the OSHCA community which I'm trying to co-ordinate during the conference to be followed by post-conference activities. While the pros and cons are being thought through by OSHCA management, the participants list does not deter further discussions here. It will be difficult for OSHCA to subsequently coordinate the discussions and decisions made on third party lists and on other different platforms which I don't think are interoperable. I've asked Soo Hoe who had been creating and organising the mailing lists for OSHCA to look into this. I've just talked to him on the phone and he will post on this matter later today. In the meantime please be patient and continue with the discussions here and we'll move the relevant archives to where it should be. There are several outstanding matters that a few of us are still addressing. One example is the temporary wiki (with content) sitting in the box that was set up during the conference for participants to input. It's still in the black box and I'm sure there are inputs on interoperability there. My headache is: how do I move that information to the OSHCA web-portal.... I really don't want to burden participants with management matters. As one participant said to me on my juggling with available funds, "what has that to do with me?" That's part of my learning process on community and community development. Rgds, Molly Lee Seldon wrote: > Alvin Boh et al. > This interoperability discussion seems to be progressing faster than I > expected, but > 1) I would REALLY prefer to pursue it in a dedicated list, so as not > to clutter up everybody's email. An OSHCA list would be most > appropriate, but otherwise maybe a Yahoo group or even Skype, or we > could each make our own list (of one another). > 2) The point-to-point interface would be quickest, but I myself would > only be interested in a generic approach involving all applications, > so as to establish interoperability not only here and now, but also > for the future. > 3) It should not be necessary (or useful) for everybody to study HL7. > As long as at least one person (project manager?) knows enough, he/she > can answer questions. > 4) http://www.ahml.com.au/ is the best place to test your message > compliance. > Lee > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > _______________________________________________ participants mailing list participants@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 16 15:11:52 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 16 13:36:07 2007 Subject: [participants] New mailing list FOSS_health@oshca.org Message-ID: <464AAEB8.4010707@pc.jaring.my> FOSS_health@oshca.org mailing list had been set up, thanks to Soo Hoe. This list is started as a result of the need to continue the discussions and subsequent follow-up activities from the OSHCA Conference 2007 which was held in Kuala Lumpur 8-11 May 2007 with the theme: "Moving the FOSS Agenda for Health: Setting the Framework for Interoperability" The main topics for follow-up activities are: 1. Interoperability, Open standards, Data exchange, focusing on "Gap Analysis for Data Portability amongst current FOSS health applications". 2. Modelling for capacity building in FOSS for health care in developing countries (emphasis of Africa, Latin America and Asia). 3. Cost analysis and comparison of deploying FOSS and proprietary systems in health care. You need to go to to subscribe yourself to the list: http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health I have forwarded all the discussions on interoperability to the new list and they should now be in the archives. I suggest that the appropriate name be started for new threads in that list. But I have "not" subscribed anyone to the new list. The participants list should then be used for mop-up discussions on OSHCA Conference 2007. To post to this list, send your email to: foss_health@oshca.org You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: FOSS_health-request@oshca.org with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. Anyone is welcomed to announce this list as widely as possible. Rgds, Molly From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 16 15:22:01 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 16 13:45:37 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <006001c79788$e00c2ff0$09648255@acerkv> References: <006001c79788$e00c2ff0$09648255@acerkv> Message-ID: <464AB119.6080302@pc.jaring.my> Hi Klaus, We're transitioning to the new list FOSS_health@oshca.org You're welcomed to subscribe to the new list and participate in the discussions as OSHCA is be initiating test beds for developing and testing interoperability with real FOSS applications. Molly Klaus D Veil wrote: >Molly, > >I really missed catching up with all conference participants in KL, but am >very happy to assist in any way I can with the OSHCA interoperability >effort. > >Klaus > >_______________________________________ > >Klaus D Veil > >Research Fellow, University of Ballarat, Australia >Chair, Standards Australia IT014-06-03 >Chair, HL7 Australia >Director, HL7 Board >HL7.org (USA) Certified V2.4 & V2.5 Specialist >Principal, HL7 Systems & Services >Mob: +61 412 746 457 Skype ID: "KlausDVeil" >Fax: +61 2 9475 0303 E-mail: Klaus@Veil.net.au > > > HL7 Australia >___________________________________________ >PO Box 3289, WESTON CREEK 2611, Australia >Phone: +61 412 746 457 Fax: +61 2 9475 0685 >E-mail: Chair@HL7.org.au Web: www.HL7.org.au >____________________________________________ > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] >On Behalf Of Molly Cheah >Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:15 >To: OSHCA Conference participants >Subject: Re: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list > >It is wonderful to see the enthusiasm here. While I'm trying to absorb all >these discussions and at the same time attend to my own urgent urgent >outstanding work, I can't respond as fast as Lee's expectation of his >preference for a dedicated list on interoperability. I fear such dedicated >lists will fragment the OSHCA community which I'm trying to co-ordinate >during the conference to be followed by post-conference activities. While >the pros and cons are being thought through by OSHCA management, the >participants list does not deter further discussions here. > >It will be difficult for OSHCA to subsequently coordinate the discussions >and decisions made on third party lists and on other different platforms >which I don't think are interoperable. > >I've asked Soo Hoe who had been creating and organising the mailing lists >for OSHCA to look into this. I've just talked to him on the phone and he >will post on this matter later today. In the meantime please be patient and >continue with the discussions here and we'll move the relevant archives to >where it should be. > >There are several outstanding matters that a few of us are still addressing. >One example is the temporary wiki (with content) sitting in the box that was >set up during the conference for participants to input. >It's still in the black box and I'm sure there are inputs on >interoperability there. My headache is: how do I move that information to >the OSHCA web-portal.... I really don't want to burden participants with >management matters. As one participant said to me on my juggling with >available funds, "what has that to do with me?" That's part of my learning >process on community and community development. > >Rgds, >Molly > >Lee Seldon wrote: > > > >>Alvin Boh et al. >>This interoperability discussion seems to be progressing faster than I >>expected, but >>1) I would REALLY prefer to pursue it in a dedicated list, so as not >>to clutter up everybody's email. An OSHCA list would be most >>appropriate, but otherwise maybe a Yahoo group or even Skype, or we >>could each make our own list (of one another). >>2) The point-to-point interface would be quickest, but I myself would >>only be interested in a generic approach involving all applications, >>so as to establish interoperability not only here and now, but also >>for the future. >>3) It should not be necessary (or useful) for everybody to study HL7. >>As long as at least one person (project manager?) knows enough, he/she >>can answer questions. >>4) http://www.ahml.com.au/ is the best place to test your message >>compliance. >>Lee >>_______________________________________________ >>participants mailing list >>participants@oshca.org >>http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > >_______________________________________________ >participants mailing list >participants@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > > > > From tanboonteck at gmail.com Wed May 16 15:21:58 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Wed May 16 13:45:37 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <005601c79788$db8f0c40$09648255@acerkv> References: <464A7771.90501@alum.mit.edu> <005601c79788$db8f0c40$09648255@acerkv> Message-ID: Q: Is HL7 V3 a replacement for V2.x? Is there an upgrade path? A: ... Early adopters of V3 are typically in a "green field" situation with no installed HL7 systems. Some implementations have been of a academic/research nature. So far there is no upgrade path from existing V2.x messages to V3 messages. This looks scary. [shudders] jason On 5/16/07, Klaus D Veil wrote: > Also, if some of you want a simple HL7 FAQ (or provide this to a colleague), > go to: www.HL7.com.au/FAQ.htm > > Klaus > > > HL7 Australia > ___________________________________________ > PO Box 3289, WESTON CREEK 2611, Australia > Phone: +61 412 746 457 Fax: +61 2 9475 0685 > E-mail: Chair@HL7.org.au Web: www.HL7.org.au > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: participants-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:participants-bounces@oshca.org] > On Behalf Of Lee Seldon > Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 13:16 > To: alvin.marcelo@telehealth.ph; OSHCA Conference participants > Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list > > Alvin Boh et al. > This interoperability discussion seems to be progressing faster than I > expected, but > 1) I would REALLY prefer to pursue it in a dedicated list, so as not to > clutter up everybody's email. An OSHCA list would be most appropriate, but > otherwise maybe a Yahoo group or even Skype, or we could each make our own > list (of one another). > 2) The point-to-point interface would be quickest, but I myself would only > be interested in a generic approach involving all applications, so as to > establish interoperability not only here and now, but also for the future. > 3) It should not be necessary (or useful) for everybody to study HL7. As > long as at least one person (project manager?) knows enough, he/she can > answer questions. > 4) http://www.ahml.com.au/ is the best place to test your message > compliance. > Lee > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From lseldon at alum.mit.edu Wed May 16 15:37:42 2007 From: lseldon at alum.mit.edu (Lee Seldon) Date: Wed May 16 14:01:14 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <005601c79788$db8f0c40$09648255@acerkv> References: <005601c79788$db8f0c40$09648255@acerkv> Message-ID: <464AB4C6.1040603@alum.mit.edu> And HL7 Australia has a very useful list of existing tools http://www.hl7.org.au//HL7-Tools.htm > Also, if some of you want a simple HL7 FAQ (or provide this to a colleague), > go to: www.HL7.com.au/FAQ.htm > > Klaus > Alvin Boh et al. > This interoperability discussion seems to be progressing faster than I > expected, but > 1) I would REALLY prefer to pursue it in a dedicated list, so as not to > clutter up everybody's email. An OSHCA list would be most appropriate, but > otherwise maybe a Yahoo group or even Skype, or we could each make our own > list (of one another). > 2) The point-to-point interface would be quickest, but I myself would only > be interested in a generic approach involving all applications, so as to > establish interoperability not only here and now, but also for the future. > 3) It should not be necessary (or useful) for everybody to study HL7. As > long as at least one person (project manager?) knows enough, he/she can > answer questions. > 4) http://www.ahml.com.au/ is the best place to test your message > compliance. > Lee From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed May 16 15:47:54 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Wed May 16 14:11:30 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <464AB4C6.1040603@alum.mit.edu> References: <005601c79788$db8f0c40$09648255@acerkv> <464AB4C6.1040603@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <464AB72A.9090108@pc.jaring.my> Lee, Can you subscribe to the new list FOSS_health@oshca.org and take the discussions there? Thanks. We're transitioning.... Molly Lee Seldon wrote: > And HL7 Australia has a very useful list of existing tools > http://www.hl7.org.au//HL7-Tools.htm > >> Also, if some of you want a simple HL7 FAQ (or provide this to a >> colleague), >> go to: www.HL7.com.au/FAQ.htm >> >> Klaus > > >> Alvin Boh et al. >> This interoperability discussion seems to be progressing faster than I >> expected, but >> 1) I would REALLY prefer to pursue it in a dedicated list, so as not to >> clutter up everybody's email. An OSHCA list would be most >> appropriate, but >> otherwise maybe a Yahoo group or even Skype, or we could each make >> our own >> list (of one another). >> 2) The point-to-point interface would be quickest, but I myself would >> only >> be interested in a generic approach involving all applications, so as to >> establish interoperability not only here and now, but also for the >> future. >> 3) It should not be necessary (or useful) for everybody to study HL7. As >> long as at least one person (project manager?) knows enough, he/she can >> answer questions. >> 4) http://www.ahml.com.au/ is the best place to test your message >> compliance. >> Lee > > > _______________________________________________ > participants mailing list > participants@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants > > From tw_cook at comcast.net Wed May 16 22:09:39 2007 From: tw_cook at comcast.net (Tim Cook) Date: Wed May 16 20:33:26 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <464AB72A.9090108@pc.jaring.my> References: <005601c79788$db8f0c40$09648255@acerkv> <464AB4C6.1040603@alum.mit.edu> <464AB72A.9090108@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <1179324580.7031.24.camel@oship> On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 15:47 +0800, Molly Cheah wrote: > Lee, > Can you subscribe to the new list FOSS_health@oshca.org and take the > discussions there? Thanks. We're transitioning.... > Molly For those that may not be aware of how to subscribe to the new mailing list. Please visit the information page at: http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health Tim -- Timothy Cook, MSc Health Informatics Research Services http://home.comcast.net/~tw_cook/ 01-904-322-8582 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070516/4fda616f/attachment-0001.pgp From ks.bhaskar at fnf.com Thu May 17 00:32:48 2007 From: ks.bhaskar at fnf.com (K.S. Bhaskar) Date: Wed May 16 22:56:31 2007 Subject: [participants] Re: OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <464A7771.90501@alum.mit.edu> References: <46492DC1.5090405@alum.mit.edu> <1179208887.4030.19.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> <46495243.6030501@pc.jaring.my><20070515172900.17921@smtp.mac.com><2c9aeb960705151829q7231d4d1sb154960d00ba023d@mail.gmail.com> <464A7771.90501@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <464B3230.6080202@fnf.com> Lee Seldon wrote, On 05/15/2007 11:16 PM: > Alvin Boh et al. > This interoperability discussion seems to be progressing faster than I > expected, but > 1) I would REALLY prefer to pursue it in a dedicated list, so as not to > clutter up everybody's email. An OSHCA list would be most appropriate, > but otherwise maybe a Yahoo group or even Skype, or we could each make > our own list (of one another). [KSB] Any reason not to use the openhealth list? I don't think of this discussion as "clutter". Yahoogroups gives members the option of receiving individual e-mails, a daily digest, or web-only access. Regards -- Bhaskar From gileschitiyo at hotmail.com Thu May 17 04:49:32 2007 From: gileschitiyo at hotmail.com (Dr.Giles Chitiyo) Date: Thu May 17 03:13:03 2007 Subject: [participants] New mailing list FOSS_health@oshca.org Message-ID: Hi Molly i hope i find you in good health. i also hope that you had a great conference in Kuala Lumpur. I would however like to unsubscribe myself from the mailing list as i cannot make head or tail of who is who and i am totally lost in the discussions as i did not attend the OSHCA conference. Please may you unsubscribe me?> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:11:52 +0800> From: drcheah@pc.jaring.my> To: participants@oshca.org; oshca_committee@oshca.org; openhealth@yahoogroups.com; ossig@mncc.com.my; HIFA2015@dgroups.org; pdpkam@yahoogroups.com; primarycare_in_malaysia@mail.pcdom.org.my; Hardhats@googlegroups.com> CC: > Subject: [participants] New mailing list FOSS_health@oshca.org> > FOSS_health@oshca.org mailing list had been set up, thanks to Soo Hoe.> > This list is started as a result of the need to continue the discussions and subsequent follow-up activities from the OSHCA Conference 2007 which was held in Kuala Lumpur 8-11 May 2007 with the theme:> > "Moving the FOSS Agenda for Health: Setting the Framework for Interoperability"> > The main topics for follow-up activities are: > > 1. Interoperability, Open standards, Data exchange, focusing on "Gap Analysis for Data Portability amongst current FOSS health applications".> 2. Modelling for capacity building in FOSS for health care in developing countries (emphasis of Africa, Latin America and Asia).> 3. Cost analysis and comparison of deploying FOSS and proprietary systems in health care.> > You need to go to to subscribe yourself to the list:> > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health> > I have forwarded all the discussions on interoperability to the new list and they should now be in the archives. I suggest that the appropriate name be started for new threads in that list.> > But I have "not" subscribed anyone to the new list.> > The participants list should then be used for mop-up discussions on OSHCA Conference 2007.> > To post to this list, send your email to:> > foss_health@oshca.org> > You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:> > FOSS_health-request@oshca.org> > with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the> quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.> > Anyone is welcomed to announce this list as widely as possible.> > Rgds,> Molly> > _______________________________________________> participants mailing list> participants@oshca.org> http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants _________________________________________________________________ Change is good. See what?s different about Windows Live Hotmail. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en-us&ocid=RMT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/participants/attachments/20070516/c64a27d3/attachment.htm From nandalalx at yahoo.com Thu May 17 09:22:43 2007 From: nandalalx at yahoo.com (Nandalal Gunaratne) Date: Thu May 17 07:46:11 2007 Subject: [participants] OSHCA inter-operability list In-Reply-To: <1179212969.4030.49.camel@debian-ravi.r4vi.org> Message-ID: <294404.24341.qm@web58709.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Since Sahana is going to get integrated into all of these areas of healthcare, it is a case for pre-deployment of Sahana in hospitals. Your third scenario maybe the reason. If Sahana is used by hospitals to keep stock items/employees and contact details/expertise/bed strength/service areas it could be valuable in case of a disaster. There will also be people who are familiar with Sahana, which is a bonus. Nanda --- Ravindra De Silva wrote: > > > Yes, Ravi. We've already thought of a scenario > where MrA was washed up > > (alive) during a tsunami and sent to a clinic > using PrimaCare, where he > > was found to have developed complications and he > had to be referred to > > the hospital using > ?Hospital-OS/VistAOutreach/MyVistA/VistA VOE for > > investigation and further treatment. Naturally, > the Health Dept using > > CHITS was also interested in him because he's a TB > patient absconded > > from treatment and he's still in an infectious > state. In the meantime, > > his wife couldn't find him and went to an NGO > using SAHANA... to ask for > > help as their house was washed away too. > > excellent scenario! > very well highlights how several systems maintain > their own records of > the same person. the challenge is provide one portal > with info from all > these records, so one can find TB data, victim data, >