From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed Aug 1 07:13:20 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] [Fwd: Marcia's GK3 Update #7 & 8] Message-ID: <46AFC210.2060307@pc.jaring.my> Here is the latest update from IDRC on GK3 in Kuala Lumpur in Dec2007. May I draw your attention to Items 5 & 6 for your possible role and/or participation in GK3. I understand that there are GK3 scholarships for GK3 Partners/Presenters. I will be meeting up with IDRC representatives to seek further clarification on what's available, but its more important to see what you can contribute to GK3. OSHCA members who wish to take the opportunity to meet up in KL in December may wish to discuss and plan its activities on the oshca_members@oshca.org list. Rgds, Molly -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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From: Hasannudin Saidin Subject: [ossig] ODF, OOXML, Open Source - Links To Articles Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:29:17 +0800 Size: 39673 Url: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/foss_health/attachments/20070803/21feb2e9/ossigODFOOXMLOpenSource-LinksToArticles.mht From amidgley2 at defoam.net Fri Aug 3 09:03:30 2007 From: amidgley2 at defoam.net (Adrian Midgley) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] [Fwd: [ossig] ODF, OOXML, Open Source - Links To Articles] In-Reply-To: <46B26008.7020400@pc.jaring.my> References: <46B26008.7020400@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <46B27EE2.2070205@defoam.net> Yes, best avoided. -- Adrian Midgley From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed Aug 8 21:39:21 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Colocation for oshca.org moving to Cyberjaya Message-ID: <46B9C789.8010204@pc.jaring.my> Dear all, Please be informed that the server hosting oshca.org will be physically relocated to the Free Net ( http://www.freenet.com.my/) Data Centre at Cyberjaya, affecting the availability of all oshca mailing lists, discussion forum, web-portal oshca.org etc. effective from 8.00am on Thursday 9th August 2007 Malaysian time (approximately 0.00GMT). We expect the services to be unavailable for most of the day, if not the whole day. As you all are aware, oshca.org was put together by us who have very little expertise in the use of plone and zope to be in time for the OSHCA2007 Conference in May. This temporary arrangement for oshca.org will now have a new colocation site that hopefully will meet the expectations of most users. However, this is the first stage of a 2-stage upgrade of our web-portal to use the later version of the softwares and applications for oshca.org and its mailing lists. It is expected that members will come forward and actually enhance its features as the original team of developers (Juliana, myself and a student trainee) do not have the expertise to do that. Free Net has kindly agreed to sponsor the colocation of our servers and to manage them. They have also agreed to "tweak" the bandwidth to provide acceptable accessibility based on feedback from members as I had briefed them of some members' complaints of slowness. They will provide a proper and appropriate feedback mechanism later to address this complaint. We apologise for this inconvenience. However, we look forward to their world-class facilities and services. Rgds, Molly From joris at bikalabs.com Wed Aug 8 21:46:56 2007 From: joris at bikalabs.com (Joris Goudriaan) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Colocation for oshca.org moving to Cyberjaya In-Reply-To: <46B9C789.8010204@pc.jaring.my> References: <46B9C789.8010204@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <46B9C950.5010901@bikalabs.com> Dear Molly & others, I wasn't aware that you used Plone for the website (my bad!), as you know we are Plone services providers, and would like to offer my help wrt to the site. What kind of feature enhancements do you have in mind? Regards, Joris Goudriaan Sales & Marketing Manager Bika Lab Systems ================================ TEL: +27 (0)21 791 19 99 FAX: +27 (0)21 791 19 99 CELL: +27 (0)83 656 22 81 E-MAIL: joris@bikalabs.com WEB: http://www.bikalabs.com http://bika.sourceforge.net ================================ Molly Cheah wrote: > Dear all, > > Please be informed that the server hosting oshca.org will be > physically relocated to the Free Net ( http://www.freenet.com.my/) > Data Centre at Cyberjaya, affecting the availability of all oshca > mailing lists, discussion forum, web-portal oshca.org etc. effective > from 8.00am on Thursday 9th August 2007 Malaysian time (approximately > 0.00GMT). We expect the services to be unavailable for most of the > day, if not the whole day. > > As you all are aware, oshca.org was put together by us who have very > little expertise in the use of plone and zope to be in time for the > OSHCA2007 Conference in May. This temporary arrangement for oshca.org > will now have a new colocation site that hopefully will meet the > expectations of most users. However, this is the first stage of a > 2-stage upgrade of our web-portal to use the later version of the > softwares and applications for oshca.org and its mailing lists. It is > expected that members will come forward and actually enhance its > features as the original team of developers (Juliana, myself and a > student trainee) do not have the expertise to do that. > > Free Net has kindly agreed to sponsor the colocation of our servers > and to manage them. They have also agreed to "tweak" the bandwidth to > provide acceptable accessibility based on feedback from members as I > had briefed them of some members' complaints of slowness. They will > provide a proper and appropriate feedback mechanism later to address > this complaint. > > We apologise for this inconvenience. However, we look forward to their > world-class facilities and services. > > Rgds, > Molly > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Thu Aug 9 06:26:13 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Colocation for oshca.org moving to Cyberjaya In-Reply-To: <46B9C950.5010901@bikalabs.com> References: <46B9C789.8010204@pc.jaring.my> <46B9C950.5010901@bikalabs.com> Message-ID: <46BA4305.7010009@pc.jaring.my> Just a quick answer to your question Joris before this list goes offline for the server move. When OSHCA was submitted for registration in April 2006 with a draft constitution which clearly define its Vision, Missions and the rest, the need for a web portal was felt but its features and user requirements were not fully worked out nor documented before its creation, except by a student as his training assignment (capturing his understanding). The portal was nevertheless created and oshca.org is what it is today. Lately, after more than a year there were expressions of what additional features it should have (based on exchanges in the protem committee list). I have no objections to discussing these here, especially to take into consideration the need to create a collaborative platform to discuss a few project proposals... interoperability and data exchange, research frameworks, alternative hardwares for developing countries etc. Hope you can help there. It will be good if you can join OSHCA as a member Joris. Rgds, Molly Joris Goudriaan wrote: > Dear Molly & others, > > I wasn't aware that you used Plone for the website (my bad!), as you > know we are Plone services providers, and would like to offer my help > wrt to the site. > > What kind of feature enhancements do you have in mind? > > Regards, > > Joris Goudriaan > Sales & Marketing Manager > Bika Lab Systems > > ================================ TEL: +27 (0)21 791 19 99 FAX: > +27 (0)21 791 19 99 CELL: +27 (0)83 656 22 81 E-MAIL: > joris@bikalabs.com > WEB: http://www.bikalabs.com > http://bika.sourceforge.net > ================================ > Molly Cheah wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Please be informed that the server hosting oshca.org will be >> physically relocated to the Free Net ( http://www.freenet.com.my/) >> Data Centre at Cyberjaya, affecting the availability of all oshca >> mailing lists, discussion forum, web-portal oshca.org etc. effective >> from 8.00am on Thursday 9th August 2007 Malaysian time (approximately >> 0.00GMT). We expect the services to be unavailable for most of the >> day, if not the whole day. >> >> As you all are aware, oshca.org was put together by us who have very >> little expertise in the use of plone and zope to be in time for the >> OSHCA2007 Conference in May. This temporary arrangement for oshca.org >> will now have a new colocation site that hopefully will meet the >> expectations of most users. However, this is the first stage of a >> 2-stage upgrade of our web-portal to use the later version of the >> softwares and applications for oshca.org and its mailing lists. It is >> expected that members will come forward and actually enhance its >> features as the original team of developers (Juliana, myself and a >> student trainee) do not have the expertise to do that. >> >> Free Net has kindly agreed to sponsor the colocation of our servers >> and to manage them. They have also agreed to "tweak" the bandwidth to >> provide acceptable accessibility based on feedback from members as I >> had briefed them of some members' complaints of slowness. They will >> provide a proper and appropriate feedback mechanism later to address >> this complaint. >> >> We apologise for this inconvenience. However, we look forward to >> their world-class facilities and services. >> >> Rgds, >> Molly >> _______________________________________________ >> FOSS_health mailing list >> FOSS_health@oshca.org >> http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health >> > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Fri Aug 10 09:48:02 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Dr Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation Message-ID: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> Hello Hello, Testing mailing lists after server relocation. While waiting for a plan to test accessibility speed objectively from different regions/countries at different times, please see if you have problem reaching http://www.oshca.org Thanks, Molly From tanboonteck at gmail.com Fri Aug 10 09:45:27 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation In-Reply-To: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> References: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: Received mail without problems. And website is much faster now from my end. jason On 8/10/07, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: > Hello Hello, > > Testing mailing lists after server relocation. While waiting for a plan > to test accessibility speed objectively from different regions/countries > at different times, please see if you have problem reaching > http://www.oshca.org > > Thanks, > Molly > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From jel at wildmedic.org Fri Aug 10 10:05:16 2007 From: jel at wildmedic.org (Jel Coward) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation In-Reply-To: References: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <46BBC7DC.9010007@wildmedic.org> Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > Received mail without problems. > > And website is much faster now from my end. > > Received here in Canada too :) And the Plone site is _much_ faster. Is that Plone running behind Apache? It seems faster than other Plone sites I have seen. Regards all -- Jel Coward Don't tell me I'm burning the candle at both ends, just tell me where I can find some more wax! _______________________ ~~--_______________________--~~ From Klaus at Veil.net.au Fri Aug 10 10:17:52 2007 From: Klaus at Veil.net.au (Klaus D Veil) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation In-Reply-To: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <014901c7daf4$ad235dc0$0803a8c0@WiFi> Hi Molly, Access from Australia is OK too. However, we are still getting the following message when we validate our link to you on our www.HL7.org.au web page with the W3C Link Validator (http://validator.w3.org): http://www.oshca.org/conference/OSHCA2007/ What to do: The link is broken. Fix it NOW! Response status code: 404 Response message: Not Found Line: 269 Klaus -----Original Message----- From: foss_health-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:foss_health-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Dr Molly Cheah Sent: Friday, 10 August 2007 11:48 To: OSHCA Committee; FOSS_health@oshca.org; OSHCA Members Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation Hello Hello, Testing mailing lists after server relocation. While waiting for a plan to test accessibility speed objectively from different regions/countries at different times, please see if you have problem reaching http://www.oshca.org Thanks, Molly _______________________________________________ FOSS_health mailing list FOSS_health@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Fri Aug 10 10:36:33 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Dr Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] OSHCA dot ORG at FREE NET Message-ID: <46BBCF31.9050003@pc.jaring.my> Dear all, On behalf of OSHCA, I would like to thank Free Net (http://www.freenet.com.my), specially Suilee, James and the Support Team for making the server relocation possible. The exercise was made more complex as we had to also relocate the other NGOs' domains that I had been responsible for, namely Primary Care Doctors Organisation Malaysia (PCDOM), Malaysian Council for Tobacco Control (MCTC) and Community Support Network (CSN) with the servers. Being non-technical, I had to rely on Nah Soo Hoe and Jason Tan who did the migration work for the move with all related mailing lists. I would like to express my thanks to all of them. Free Net is sponsoring 2U server space at their Data Center with management assistance. I would like to acknowledge our appreciation to Free Net in the usual manner i.e. to indicate that the web portal is powered by Free Net (next to "Powered by Plone" or whatever that is suitable) and linking their logo to their web-site. Rgds, Molly From Chris.Seebregts at mrc.ac.za Fri Aug 10 13:53:11 2007 From: Chris.Seebregts at mrc.ac.za (Chris Seebregts) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation In-Reply-To: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> References: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A299076@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> Hi Molly et al Access to oshca.org is much faster than before from South Africa. I noticed a few broken links, eg the topic view at http://www.oshca.org/conference/OSHCA2007/Conference2007. Also, it doesn't seem to be possible yet to register on the site and enquiries are directed to an invalid e-mail address (postmaster@localhost) at http://www.oshca.org/mail_password_form. Regards Chris Seebregts -----Original Message----- From: foss_health-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:foss_health-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Dr Molly Cheah Sent: 10 August 2007 03:48 AM To: OSHCA Committee; FOSS_health@oshca.org; OSHCA Members Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation Hello Hello, Testing mailing lists after server relocation. While waiting for a plan to test accessibility speed objectively from different regions/countries at different times, please see if you have problem reaching http://www.oshca.org Thanks, Molly _______________________________________________ FOSS_health mailing list FOSS_health@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From marvin at pascual.com.ph Fri Aug 10 14:48:16 2007 From: marvin at pascual.com.ph (Marvin Pascual) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation In-Reply-To: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> References: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: Hello Molly, On 8/10/07, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: > Hello Hello, > > Testing mailing lists after server relocation. While waiting for a plan > to test accessibility speed objectively from different regions/countries > at different times, please see if you have problem reaching > http://www.oshca.org Accessing OSHCA's website from my home PC and desktop workstation in our office here in Singapore is faster already compared to the previous one. Good luck! =) -- MARVIN T. PASCUAL Mobile No. +65 9779 6078 Telephone No. +65 6404 9250 E-Mail: marvin AT pascual DOT com DOT ph Google Talk ID: marvin AT pascual DOT com DOT ph Yahoo! Messenger ID: bintut From tanboonteck at gmail.com Fri Aug 10 14:56:59 2007 From: tanboonteck at gmail.com (Jason Tan Boon Teck) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [oshca_members] Re: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation In-Reply-To: <46BBC7DC.9010007@wildmedic.org> References: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> <46BBC7DC.9010007@wildmedic.org> Message-ID: Hi Jel, OSHCA's plone instance is running behind the Pound reverse proxy, not Apache. Regards, jason On 8/10/07, Jel Coward wrote: > Jason Tan Boon Teck wrote: > > Received mail without problems. > > > > And website is much faster now from my end. > > > > > Received here in Canada too :) > > And the Plone site is _much_ faster. > > Is that Plone running behind Apache? It seems faster than other Plone > sites I have seen. > > Regards all > > -- > Jel Coward > > Don't tell me I'm burning the candle at both ends, just tell me where I > can find some more wax! _______________________ > ~~--_______________________--~~ > _______________________________________________ > oshca_members mailing list > oshca_members@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/oshca_members > -- Jason Tan Boon Teck From trungtran at kctvietnam.com Fri Aug 10 16:08:25 2007 From: trungtran at kctvietnam.com (trungtran@kctvietnam.com) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation Message-ID: Hi all, Access from Vietnam is ok. --------------------------------------------------- Thank you and regard Tran Trung Director of technology KC&T Technology - Trading Joint Stock Company Add: 48/90 Duong Buoi, Ba Dinh, Ha Noi. Or 48 /113 Dao Tan, Ba Dinh, Ha Noi Tel: (04) 7667038 - Mobile: 0903214420 - Fax: (04) 7667039 Email: trungtran@kctvietnam.com URL: www.kctvietnam.com -----foss_health-bounces@oshca.org wrote: ----- To: OSHCA Committee , FOSS_health@oshca.org, OSHCA Members From: Dr Molly Cheah Sent by: foss_health-bounces@oshca.org Date: 08/10/2007 08:48AM Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation Hello Hello, Testing mailing lists after server relocation. While waiting for a plan to test accessibility speed objectively from different regions/countries at different times, please see if you have problem reaching http://www.oshca.org Thanks, Molly _______________________________________________ FOSS_health mailing list FOSS_health@oshca.org http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/foss_health/attachments/20070810/99574143/attachment.html From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Fri Aug 10 18:16:05 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation - stage 2 upgrade In-Reply-To: <7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A299076@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> References: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> <7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A299076@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> Message-ID: <46BC3AE5.9040807@pc.jaring.my> Hi Chris, I did whatever I knew to get rid of the broken link and invalid email address. We'll probably need to plan for the stage 2 upgrade of the oshca dot org. While the mailing list was down, I had received several offers to help. As I had said before, OSHCA needs a practical electronic environment and system to enable it to manage its membership and activities with minimal interventions and at the same time provide its members and the FOSS community at large the ability to use this platform and mechanism to participate and collaborate in its activities responsibly. While the mailing list was not available during the move, I had the opportunity to discuss with some volunteers on how to approach Stage 2, starting with the question on the appropriate use of technology to enhance the web-portal i.e should we continue to use plone and zope or move to some other PHP based CMS such as Drupal. I know we had gone through that before, but I was told that PHP based CMSes have caught up with Plone in terms of features and they are far easier to manage than plone sites. Clearly needs assessment of OSHCA as an organisation with its specific Vision/Missions and user requirements of members and the FOSS community at large may be good starting points of Stage 2 upgrade. There is a need for a volunteer to lead a team of volunteers to do this. Should we have these discussions only on one list: FOSS_health list (there are non-members there) or OSHCA_members list (on membership matters, OSHCA Constitution and OSHCA AGM/EGM matters)? Rgds, Molly Chris Seebregts wrote: >Hi Molly et al > >Access to oshca.org is much faster than before from South Africa. I >noticed a few broken links, eg the topic view at >http://www.oshca.org/conference/OSHCA2007/Conference2007. Also, it >doesn't seem to be possible yet to register on the site and enquiries >are directed to an invalid e-mail address (postmaster@localhost) at >http://www.oshca.org/mail_password_form. > >Regards > >Chris Seebregts > > > From xga at comitan.com Fri Aug 10 18:49:51 2007 From: xga at comitan.com (Xavier Gonzalez Alonso) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Congratulations from Mexico RE: [oshca_members] OSHCA dot ORG at FREE NET In-Reply-To: <46BBCF31.9050003@pc.jaring.my> References: <46BBCF31.9050003@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <007401c7db3c$30b41f20$921c5d60$@com> Dear Molly Let me congratulate you and your awesome team for this achievement. Xavier Gonzalez-Alonso Senior IPPF Consultant / Translator From chickerursr at gmail.com Fri Aug 10 19:22:21 2007 From: chickerursr at gmail.com (satyadhyan chickerur) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation - stage 2 upgrade In-Reply-To: <46BC3AE5.9040807@pc.jaring.my> References: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> <7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A299076@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> <46BC3AE5.9040807@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: Hi all, Access from India is Ok . regards, s.hcickerur On 8/10/07, Molly Cheah wrote: > > Hi Chris, > I did whatever I knew to get rid of the broken link and invalid email > address. We'll probably need to plan for the stage 2 upgrade of the > oshca dot org. While the mailing list was down, I had received several > offers to help. As I had said before, OSHCA needs a practical electronic > environment and system to enable it to manage its membership and > activities with minimal interventions and at the same time provide its > members and the FOSS community at large the ability to use this platform > and mechanism to participate and collaborate in its activities > responsibly. > > While the mailing list was not available during the move, I had the > opportunity to discuss with some volunteers on how to approach Stage 2, > starting with the question on the appropriate use of technology to > enhance the web-portal i.e should we continue to use plone and zope or > move to some other PHP based CMS such as Drupal. I know we had gone > through that before, but I was told that PHP based CMSes have caught up > with Plone in terms of features and they are far easier to manage than > plone sites. Clearly needs assessment of OSHCA as an organisation with > its specific Vision/Missions and user requirements of members and the > FOSS community at large may be good starting points of Stage 2 upgrade. > There is a need for a volunteer to lead a team of volunteers to do this. > > Should we have these discussions only on one list: FOSS_health list > (there are non-members there) or OSHCA_members list (on membership > matters, OSHCA Constitution and OSHCA AGM/EGM matters)? > > Rgds, > Molly > > Chris Seebregts wrote: > > >Hi Molly et al > > > >Access to oshca.org is much faster than before from South Africa. I > >noticed a few broken links, eg the topic view at > >http://www.oshca.org/conference/OSHCA2007/Conference2007. Also, it > >doesn't seem to be possible yet to register on the site and enquiries > >are directed to an invalid e-mail address (postmaster@localhost) at > >http://www.oshca.org/mail_password_form. > > > >Regards > > > >Chris Seebregts > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > -- S.R.Chickerur, Asst.Professor, Department Of Information Technology, Sona College of Technology, Thiagarajar Polytechnic College Road, Salem - 636 005, Tamilnadu, India. Phone : 91 - 427 - 2443545, 2446898, 2447907 Extn : 466 Fax : 91 - 427 - 2449174 Website : www.freewebs.com/chickerursr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/foss_health/attachments/20070810/ee1774d0/attachment.html From rcr at rcresearch.us Fri Aug 10 19:33:32 2007 From: rcr at rcresearch.us (Chris Richardson) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation - stage 2 upgrade References: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my><7C4615229DD21546B2399F446305D82A299076@balrog.mrcad.mrc.ac.za> <46BC3AE5.9040807@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <013c01c7db42$492c4130$6701a8c0@FarLiteWV> Molly; Your plan seems reasonable. Much of the discussion you suggest at the end of the message may have only limited appeal to the general membership. You might consider forming a technical working group of those in the community who are more deeply entrenched in the Plone/PHP technology to sort out the migration plans and let folks vote with their fingers by having open enrollment in the technical group for a limited period of time. After the membership has formed, then let the interested select their leader who will be responsible to the OSHCA leadership. This working group would lay out the tasks to be done with a schedule of planned deliverables and a budget. Now considering that many of the OSHCA Leadership is technical, there is likely to be overlap, but once formed, the working group should be respected, but accountable through their appointed leader. This gets a focused group working on the infrastructure while the rest of the community can get on with whatever other projects are in play. This does not mean that suggestions cannot come from outside the group, just that the leader of the working group has the responsibility of controling feature creep and can keep the project until his control until there is compelling reason to reconfigure the milestones to include any requested modification. The working group can elect to add additional workers as they see fit and as such talent makes itself available. But it is the Working Group Leader who decides the size of the group and what the task list focus is. He is accountable to the OSHCA leadership for meeting the published milestones and timetable. This focuses the politics, but lets the technical folks to get on with the tasks at hand. I hope that this is of some small help. Best wishes; Chris Richardson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Molly Cheah" To: ; "OSHCA Members List" Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation - stage 2 upgrade > Hi Chris, > I did whatever I knew to get rid of the broken link and invalid email > address. We'll probably need to plan for the stage 2 upgrade of the oshca > dot org. While the mailing list was down, I had received several offers to > help. As I had said before, OSHCA needs a practical electronic environment > and system to enable it to manage its membership and activities with > minimal interventions and at the same time provide its members and the > FOSS community at large the ability to use this platform and mechanism to > participate and collaborate in its activities responsibly. > > While the mailing list was not available during the move, I had the > opportunity to discuss with some volunteers on how to approach Stage 2, > starting with the question on the appropriate use of technology to enhance > the web-portal i.e should we continue to use plone and zope or move to > some other PHP based CMS such as Drupal. I know we had gone through that > before, but I was told that PHP based CMSes have caught up with Plone in > terms of features and they are far easier to manage than plone sites. > Clearly needs assessment of OSHCA as an organisation with its specific > Vision/Missions and user requirements of members and the FOSS community at > large may be good starting points of Stage 2 upgrade. There is a need for > a volunteer to lead a team of volunteers to do this. > > Should we have these discussions only on one list: FOSS_health list (there > are non-members there) or OSHCA_members list (on membership matters, OSHCA > Constitution and OSHCA AGM/EGM matters)? > > Rgds, > Molly > > Chris Seebregts wrote: > >>Hi Molly et al >> >>Access to oshca.org is much faster than before from South Africa. I >>noticed a few broken links, eg the topic view at >>http://www.oshca.org/conference/OSHCA2007/Conference2007. Also, it >>doesn't seem to be possible yet to register on the site and enquiries >>are directed to an invalid e-mail address (postmaster@localhost) at >>http://www.oshca.org/mail_password_form. >>Regards >> >>Chris Seebregts >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > > From csmithprivate at hotmail.com Sat Aug 11 12:44:04 2007 From: csmithprivate at hotmail.com (Colin Smith) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation References: <46BBC3D2.5090507@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: Dear Molly, Access is fine from Indonesia where I am on an assignment helping Kupang Hospital, NTT Province with their IS strategy.You have done a great job with the site, congratulations. I would be interested in hearing from anyone on this list from Indonesia, and/or anyone who has experience of hospital and health information systems procurement and implementation in this Region. Warmest Regards Colin Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr Molly Cheah" To: "OSHCA Committee" ; ; "OSHCA Members" Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:48 AM Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation > Hello Hello, > > Testing mailing lists after server relocation. While waiting for a plan to > test accessibility speed objectively from different regions/countries at > different times, please see if you have problem reaching > http://www.oshca.org > > Thanks, > Molly > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > From thanhbinh at hmu.edu.vn Mon Aug 13 09:41:07 2007 From: thanhbinh at hmu.edu.vn (Le Thanh Binh) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Testing after server relocation Message-ID: <200708130841.AA2424898@hmu.edu.vn> Dear Molly! I have testing from Vietnam. It's very good. Best regard! ======================== Le Thanh Binh Mobile: 0914801027 Email:thanhbinh@hmu.edu.vn ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Dr Molly Cheah Reply-To: foss_health@oshca.org Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:48:02 +0800 >Hello Hello, > >Testing mailing lists after server relocation. While waiting for a plan >to test accessibility speed objectively from different regions/countries >at different times, please see if you have problem reaching >http://www.oshca.org > >Thanks, >Molly >_______________________________________________ >FOSS_health mailing list >FOSS_health@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at hmu.edu.vn From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Mon Aug 13 19:17:12 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Request for proposals to create centres to counter chronic disease in developing countries Message-ID: <46C03DB8.7080308@pc.jaring.my> Anybody interested? http://www.oxha.org/memberarea/ovations-chronic-disease-initiative-rfp Request for proposals to create centres to counter chronic disease in developing countries > One major barrier to countering chronic disease in the developing > world at the moment is lack of capacity and leadership. There are too > few leaders, individuals, and institutions adequately equipped to > counter chronic disease. This situation has led Ovations, a US health > and wellbeing company, to develop a programme to build such capacities. > > The creation of centres has been a successful strategy for building > capacity in areas such as infectious disease. Ovations plans to > replicate this success. Centres will be expected to train and develop > individuals who will become leaders and be ready to capitalise on the > large flow of funds that is likely soon to be available for countering > chronic disease in the developing world. > > Ovations is devoting $15 million in funds and kind over five years to > the programme and wants not just to fund centres but also to work with > them. Ovations plans to partner with other organisations and raise > more funds. It has already partnered with Oxford Health Alliance and > the National Institutes of Health. > Molly From tim.churches at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 20:14:48 2007 From: tim.churches at gmail.com (Tim C) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Request for proposals to create centres to counter chronic disease in developing countries In-Reply-To: <46C03DB8.7080308@pc.jaring.my> References: <46C03DB8.7080308@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <7bb0495c0708130514p3fb18263v947bdc79f22bd241@mail.gmail.com> On 13/08/07, Molly Cheah wrote: > > Anybody interested? > http://www.oxha.org/memberarea/ovations-chronic-disease-initiative-rfp As an aside, the Oxford Alliance web site is a very nice looking Plone site, is it not? (See http://www.oxha.org/about-the-site ). Tim C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(See http://www.oxha.org/about-the-site ). > > Tim C > > > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > > -- S.R.Chickerur, Asst.Professor, Department Of Information Technology, Sona College of Technology, Thiagarajar Polytechnic College Road, Salem - 636 005, Tamilnadu, India. Phone : 91 - 427 - 2443545, 2446898, 2447907 Extn : 466 Fax : 91 - 427 - 2449174 Website : www.freewebs.com/chickerursr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/foss_health/attachments/20070813/df82b54a/attachment.html From amidgley2 at defoam.net Tue Aug 14 05:38:00 2007 From: amidgley2 at defoam.net (Adrian Midgley) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Request for proposals to create centres to counter chronic disease in developing countries In-Reply-To: <46C03DB8.7080308@pc.jaring.my> References: <46C03DB8.7080308@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <46C0CF38.9030502@defoam.net> Molly Cheah wrote: > Anybody interested? > http://www.oxha.org/memberarea/ovations-chronic-disease-initiative-rfp > Request for proposals to create centres to counter chronic disease in > developing countries >> The creation of centres has been a successful strategy for building >> capacity in areas such as infectious disease. Ovations plans to >> replicate this success. Centres will be expected to train and develop >> individuals who will become leaders and be ready to capitalise on the >> large flow of funds that is likely soon to be available for >> countering chronic disease in the developing world. Well, they've got money, but the Open Source connection in that initiative eludes me thus far. Nice use of Plone they have there, yes. -- Adrian Midgley From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Tue Aug 14 11:13:56 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent No. 1 Hall 2 Message-ID: <46C11DF4.80707@pc.jaring.my> * Calling all those who have healthcare applications to market at GK3 http://www.gkpeventsonthefuture.org/marketofopportunities/ * OSHCA Tent No: 1, Hall 2 Here is the opportunity to showcase your applications and projects at GK3 Market of Opportunities - nicknamed MoO virtually and also have the opportunity to market at the "physical" MoO in December in KL. I had registered an OSHCA marketplace (tent) to showcase the FOSS applications in health care to bid for one of the three physical tents to be given out for free. I understand that this is a competition and that the tent with the most impressive array of applications will win one of the free physical tents in KL in December. The selected showcases will be allocated 1) a booth at the physical MoO to showcase their projects; and 2) time to present their projects on stage to the GK3 conference and exhibition audience consisting of about 2,000 ICT4D practitioners from the private, public and social sector from around the world. This is an opportunity to line up the "largest" collection of FOSS applications. You can offer your expertise and resources or seek knowledge for your projects. The OSHCA tent had received approval from the MoO administration and had been assigned Tent 1 in Hall 2. This is what I've put on the Marketplace for OSHCA members to offer. The individual applications have yet to be enumerated. > > FOSS Applications in Health Care > > *Theme(s):* > ICT in Health > > *Description* Electronic Medical Record (EMR) and Clinic applications > in Primary Care, Hospital Information Systems, Public Health, Disaster > Management Systems, Lab systems etc will be showcased here. Expertise > for deployment, customization, training, support and maintenance will > also be available. This is what I have put on the Marketplace what OSHCA is seeking. We can add to what we're seeking e.g. funding support for training FOSS programmers in developing countries, etc. > > Interoperability, information Sharing > > *Theme(s):* > Open Standards in Health Care > > *Description* We need partners and funding to establish multiple > centers for project test beds in developing countries to deploy FOSS > health applications in order to test interoperability among different > applications in order to exchange and share information. Rgds, Molly -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/foss_health/attachments/20070814/bc7a1596/attachment.htm From chickerursr at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 13:41:18 2007 From: chickerursr at gmail.com (satyadhyan chickerur) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent No. 1 Hall 2 In-Reply-To: <46C11DF4.80707@pc.jaring.my> References: <46C11DF4.80707@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: Dear All, i have started a new google group " Open source for Healthcare " . Inviting all of us to be a part of it http://groups.google.com/group/opensource-for-healthcare Best regards, s.chickerur On 8/14/07, Molly Cheah wrote: > > *Calling all those who have healthcare applications to market at GK3 > http://www.gkpeventsonthefuture.org/marketofopportunities/ > * > OSHCA Tent No: 1, Hall 2 > Here is the opportunity to showcase your applications and projects at GK3 > Market of Opportunities - nicknamed MoO virtually and also have the > opportunity to market at the "physical" MoO in December in KL. I had > registered an OSHCA marketplace (tent) to showcase the FOSS applications in > health care to bid for one of the three physical tents to be given out for > free. I understand that this is a competition and that the tent with the > most impressive array of applications will win one of the free physical > tents in KL in December. > > The selected showcases will be allocated 1) a booth at the physical MoO to > showcase their projects; and 2) time to present their projects on stage to > the GK3 conference and exhibition audience consisting of about 2,000 ICT4D > practitioners from the private, public and social sector from around the > world. > > This is an opportunity to line up the "largest" collection of FOSS > applications. You can offer your expertise and resources or seek knowledge > for your projects. > The OSHCA tent had received approval from the MoO administration and had > been assigned Tent 1 in Hall 2. > > This is what I've put on the Marketplace for OSHCA members to offer. The > individual applications have yet to be enumerated. > > FOSS Applications in Health Care > > *Theme(s):* > ICT in Health > *Description* Electronic Medical Record (EMR) and Clinic applications in > Primary Care, Hospital Information Systems, Public Health, Disaster > Management Systems, Lab systems etc will be showcased here. Expertise for > deployment, customization, training, support and maintenance will also be > available. > > > This is what I have put on the Marketplace what OSHCA is seeking. We can > add to what we're seeking e.g. funding support for training FOSS > programmers in developing countries, etc. > > Interoperability, information Sharing > > *Theme(s):* > Open Standards in Health Care > *Description* We need partners and funding to establish multiple centers > for project test beds in developing countries to deploy FOSS health > applications in order to test interoperability among different applications > in order to exchange and share information. > > Rgds, > Molly > > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > > -- S.R.Chickerur, Asst.Professor, Department Of Information Technology, Sona College of Technology, Thiagarajar Polytechnic College Road, Salem - 636 005, Tamilnadu, India. 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URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/foss_health/attachments/20070814/91dec60f/attachment.html From dalmolin at e-cology.ca Tue Aug 14 21:38:01 2007 From: dalmolin at e-cology.ca (Joseph Dal Molin) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:26 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent No. 1 Hall 2 In-Reply-To: References: <46C11DF4.80707@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <46C1B039.5060000@e-cology.ca> s.chickerur, Besides this list which OSHCA is running there is the openhealth list which has been devoted to open source in health since 1999.... no point in reinventing the wheel we already have a bicycle :-) Joseph satyadhyan chickerur wrote: > Dear All, > > i have started a new google group " Open source for Healthcare " . > Inviting all of us to be a part of it > http://groups.google.com/group/opensource-for-healthcare > > > Best regards, > > s.chickerur > > > On 8/14/07, *Molly Cheah* > wrote: > > *Calling all those who have healthcare applications to market at GK3 > http://www.gkpeventsonthefuture.org/marketofopportunities/ > * > OSHCA Tent No: 1, Hall 2 > Here is the opportunity to showcase your applications and projects > at GK3 Market of Opportunities - nicknamed MoO virtually and also > have the opportunity to market at the "physical" MoO in December in > KL. I had registered an OSHCA marketplace (tent) to showcase the > FOSS applications in health care to bid for one of the three > physical tents to be given out for free. I understand that this is a > competition and that the tent with the most impressive array of > applications will win one of the free physical tents in KL in December. > > The selected showcases will be allocated 1) a booth at the physical > MoO to showcase their projects; and 2) time to present their > projects on stage to the GK3 conference and exhibition audience > consisting of about 2,000 ICT4D practitioners from the private, > public and social sector from around the world. > > This is an opportunity to line up the "largest" collection of FOSS > applications. You can offer your expertise and resources or seek > knowledge for your projects. > The OSHCA tent had received approval from the MoO administration and > had been assigned Tent 1 in Hall 2. > > This is what I've put on the Marketplace for OSHCA members to offer. > The individual applications have yet to be enumerated. >> >> >> FOSS Applications in Health Care >> >> *Theme(s):* >> ICT in Health >> >> *Description* Electronic Medical Record (EMR) and Clinic >> applications in Primary Care, Hospital Information Systems, Public >> Health, Disaster Management Systems, Lab systems etc will be >> showcased here. Expertise for deployment, customization, training, >> support and maintenance will also be available. > > This is what I have put on the Marketplace what OSHCA is seeking. We > can add to what we're seeking e.g. funding support for training > FOSS programmers in developing countries, etc. >> >> >> Interoperability, information Sharing >> >> *Theme(s):* >> Open Standards in Health Care >> >> *Description* We need partners and funding to establish multiple >> centers for project test beds in developing countries to deploy >> FOSS health applications in order to test interoperability among >> different applications in order to exchange and share information. > Rgds, > Molly > > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > > > > > -- > S.R.Chickerur, > Asst.Professor, > Department Of Information Technology, > Sona College of Technology, > Thiagarajar Polytechnic College Road, > Salem - 636 005, > Tamilnadu, India. > Phone : 91 - 427 - 2443545, 2446898, 2447907 Extn : 466 > Fax : 91 - 427 - 2449174 > Website : www.freewebs.com/chickerursr > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 22:44:44 2007 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Riaz Bajwa) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent No. 1 Hall 2 In-Reply-To: <46C11DF4.80707@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <46c1bfe7.2387460a.7c5e.08c7@mx.google.com> Hi Molly, Include me in to present Low-Cost Alternative Hardware Technology where visitors will get hands-on opportunity to see how these Open Source Software enabled devices fit into OSS Medical and Healthcare environments facilitating doctors and patients to access Health Information Management Systems. Best Regards Fouad Bajwa _____ From: foss_health-bounces@oshca.org [mailto:foss_health-bounces@oshca.org] On Behalf Of Molly Cheah Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:14 AM To: FOSS_health@oshca.org; OSHCA Members List; openhealth@yahoogroups.com; Hardhats@googlegroups.com Subject: [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent No. 1 Hall 2 Calling all those who have healthcare applications to market at GK3 http://www.gkpeventsonthefuture.org/marketofopportunities/ OSHCA Tent No: 1, Hall 2 Here is the opportunity to showcase your applications and projects at GK3 Market of Opportunities - nicknamed MoO virtually and also have the opportunity to market at the "physical" MoO in December in KL. I had registered an OSHCA marketplace (tent) to showcase the FOSS applications in health care to bid for one of the three physical tents to be given out for free. I understand that this is a competition and that the tent with the most impressive array of applications will win one of the free physical tents in KL in December. The selected showcases will be allocated 1) a booth at the physical MoO to showcase their projects; and 2) time to present their projects on stage to the GK3 conference and exhibition audience consisting of about 2,000 ICT4D practitioners from the private, public and social sector from around the world. This is an opportunity to line up the "largest" collection of FOSS applications. You can offer your expertise and resources or seek knowledge for your projects. The OSHCA tent had received approval from the MoO administration and had been assigned Tent 1 in Hall 2. This is what I've put on the Marketplace for OSHCA members to offer. The individual applications have yet to be enumerated. FOSS Applications in Health Care Theme(s): ICT in Health Description Electronic Medical Record (EMR) and Clinic applications in Primary Care, Hospital Information Systems, Public Health, Disaster Management Systems, Lab systems etc will be showcased here. Expertise for deployment, customization, training, support and maintenance will also be available. This is what I have put on the Marketplace what OSHCA is seeking. We can add to what we're seeking e.g. funding support for training FOSS programmers in developing countries, etc. Interoperability, information Sharing Theme(s): Open Standards in Health Care Description We need partners and funding to establish multiple centers for project test beds in developing countries to deploy FOSS health applications in order to test interoperability among different applications in order to exchange and share information. Rgds, Molly -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I had > registered an OSHCA marketplace (tent) to showcase the FOSS applications in > health care to bid for one of the three physical tents to be given out for > free. I understand that this is a competition and that the tent with the > most impressive array of applications will win one of the free physical > tents in KL in December. > > The selected showcases will be allocated 1) a booth at the physical MoO to > showcase their projects; and 2) time to present their projects on stage to > the GK3 conference and exhibition audience consisting of about 2,000 ICT4D > practitioners from the private, public and social sector from around the > world. > > This is an opportunity to line up the "largest" collection of FOSS > applications. You can offer your expertise and resources or seek knowledge > for your projects. > The OSHCA tent had received approval from the MoO administration and had > been assigned Tent 1 in Hall 2. > > This is what I've put on the Marketplace for OSHCA members to offer. The > individual applications have yet to be enumerated. > > *FOSS Applications in Health Care* > > *Theme(s):* > ICT in Health > > *Description* Electronic Medical Record (EMR) and Clinic applications in > Primary Care, Hospital Information Systems, Public Health, Disaster > Management Systems, Lab systems etc will be showcased here. Expertise for > deployment, customization, training, support and maintenance will also be > available. > > > This is what I have put on the Marketplace what OSHCA is seeking. We can > add to what we're seeking e.g. funding support for training FOSS > programmers in developing countries, etc. > > *Interoperability, information Sharing* > > *Theme(s):* > Open Standards in Health Care > > *Description* We need partners and funding to establish multiple centers > for project test beds in developing countries to deploy FOSS health > applications in order to test interoperability among different applications > in order to exchange and share information. > > Rgds, > Molly > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > > -- S.R.Chickerur, Website : www.freewebs.com/chickerursr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/foss_health/attachments/20070814/a2ee6800/attachment.html From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed Aug 15 06:15:10 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent No. 1 Hall 2 In-Reply-To: <46c1bfe7.2387460a.7c5e.08c7@mx.google.com> References: <46c1bfe7.2387460a.7c5e.08c7@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <46C2296E.6070002@pc.jaring.my> Hi Fouad, This is also for all those who wish to add to the OSHCA tent at GK3 Marketplace. Please structure what you wish to add as follows, so that I need only to "copy and paste" into the form provided to add. Fouad, I hope you can redo your request. Thanks. Please also note that whatever OSHCA offers and seeks can be edited. I would welcome proposals to edit as well. This may not be promptly done as I had encountered errors during such editing processes. Teething problems :-) *Under What you are offering* Thematic Area: Title: Detailed description: Key Words: As for uploading brochures, here is the instruction: > This function allows you to upload brochures about your organisation. > You many upload as many brochures as you like, and with each limited > to 2MB in file size. These will be made downloadable to your visitors. > We encourage you to include a description of your brochure so that > your visitors can identify them easily. > > Please note that brochures for your offers and items sought should be > uploaded through an Offer of Knowledge Form and Seeking Knowledge > Form, respectively. > Rgds, Molly Fouad Riaz Bajwa wrote: > Hi Molly, > > Include me in to present Low-Cost Alternative Hardware Technology > where visitors will get hands-on opportunity to see how these Open > Source Software enabled devices fit into OSS Medical and Healthcare > environments facilitating doctors and patients to access Health > Information Management Systems. > > > > Best Regards > > Fouad Bajwa > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* foss_health-bounces@oshca.org > [mailto:foss_health-bounces@oshca.org] *On Behalf Of *Molly Cheah > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:14 AM > *To:* FOSS_health@oshca.org; OSHCA Members List; > openhealth@yahoogroups.com; Hardhats@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent No. > 1 Hall 2 > > > > *Calling all those who have healthcare applications to market at GK3 > http://www.gkpeventsonthefuture.org/marketofopportunities/ > * > OSHCA Tent No: 1, Hall 2 > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed Aug 15 07:11:03 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent No. 1 Hall 2 In-Reply-To: <46c1c9fb.2387460a.7c5e.1db7@mx.google.com> References: <46c1c9fb.2387460a.7c5e.1db7@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <46C23687.9040705@pc.jaring.my> Hi Fouad, Based on my subsequent post on upload of brochures, you need to rename the brochures appropriately and provide a description of each brochure. Please note the limit on size of brochure. As an extension of this discussion, I would like to welcome the creation of brochures of applications that you wish to upload to the OSHCA tent at GK3 to be sent to me off line so as not to clutter these mailing lists. Openhealth list does not accept attachments anyway. I was thinking of another offer we could provide is in the area of specialised FOSS technologies such as GT.M. Bhaskar? I need the write up though - a generic one with examples/lists and brochures on specific technologies/softwares on offer. While we are at it, can someone do a write up for Open Standards for Healthcare. Offers can be concepts or for knowledge enrichment and not just hardwares, softwares or applications. Remember that if OSHCA has lots to offer and/or seek, we may win a real tent at GK3 in Kuala Lumpur in December. So please everybody chip in. I see the exercise as an extention of what were presented at the OSHCA2007 Conference, except that you'll be getting a much wider audience. Rgds, Molly Fouad Riaz Bajwa wrote: > Hi Molly, > > Attached the is the case study for you to include about INK mpc?s use > in a EU funded Telehealth project. If the attachments (2 PDF Files) > get trimmed off, anyone can personally contact me to email them the > attached project synopsis and brochure of the device. > > Best Regards > > Fouad Bajwa > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Fouad Riaz Bajwa [mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2007 7:45 PM > *To:* 'foss_health@oshca.org'; 'OSHCA Members List'; > 'openhealth@yahoogroups.com'; 'Hardhats@googlegroups.com' > *Cc:* 'Molly Cheah' > *Subject:* RE: [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent > No. 1 Hall 2 > > Hi Molly, > > Include me in to present Low-Cost Alternative Hardware Technology > where visitors will get hands-on opportunity to see how these Open > Source Software enabled devices fit into OSS Medical and Healthcare > environments facilitating doctors and patients to access Health > Information Management Systems. > > Best Regards > > Fouad Bajwa > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* foss_health-bounces@oshca.org > [mailto:foss_health-bounces@oshca.org] *On Behalf Of *Molly Cheah > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:14 AM > *To:* FOSS_health@oshca.org; OSHCA Members List; > openhealth@yahoogroups.com; Hardhats@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent No. > 1 Hall 2 > > *Calling all those who have healthcare applications to market at GK3 > http://www.gkpeventsonthefuture.org/marketofopportunities/ > * > OSHCA Tent No: 1, Hall 2 > Here is the opportunity to showcase your applications and projects at > GK3 Market of Opportunities - nicknamed MoO virtually and also have > the opportunity to market at the "physical" MoO in December in KL. I > had registered an OSHCA marketplace (tent) to showcase the FOSS > applications in health care to bid for one of the three physical tents > to be given out for free. I understand that this is a competition and > that the tent with the most impressive array of applications will win > one of the free physical tents in KL in December. > > The selected showcases will be allocated 1) a booth at the physical > MoO to showcase their projects; and 2) time to present their projects > on stage to the GK3 conference and exhibition audience consisting of > about 2,000 ICT4D practitioners from the private, public and social > sector from around the world. > > This is an opportunity to line up the "largest" collection of FOSS > applications. You can offer your expertise and resources or seek > knowledge for your projects. > The OSHCA tent had received approval from the MoO administration and > had been assigned Tent 1 in Hall 2. > > This is what I've put on the Marketplace for OSHCA members to offer. > The individual applications have yet to be enumerated. > > > *FOSS Applications in Health Care* > > *Theme(s):* > ICT in Health > > *Description* Electronic Medical Record (EMR) and Clinic applications > in Primary Care, Hospital Information Systems, Public Health, Disaster > Management Systems, Lab systems etc will be showcased here. Expertise > for deployment, customization, training, support and maintenance will > also be available. > > > This is what I have put on the Marketplace what OSHCA is seeking. We > can add to what we're seeking e.g. funding support for training FOSS > programmers in developing countries, etc. > > > *Interoperability, information Sharing* > > *Theme(s):* > Open Standards in Health Care > > *Description* We need partners and funding to establish multiple > centers for project test beds in developing countries to deploy FOSS > health applications in order to test interoperability among different > applications in order to exchange and share information. > > Rgds, > Molly > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: 8/13/2007 10:15 AM > > From hseldon at swinburne.edu.my Fri Aug 10 15:24:10 2007 From: hseldon at swinburne.edu.my (Lee Seldon) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] test Message-ID: <1428.172.20.121.179.1186730650.squirrel@www.swinburne.edu.my> http://www.oshca.org/ seems to be OK from Kuching, although I have no idea how fast it was here before. Lee hseldon@swinburne.edu.my From amidgley2 at defoam.net Wed Aug 15 22:43:54 2007 From: amidgley2 at defoam.net (Adrian Midgley) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] GK3 Market of Opportunities - OSHCA Tent No. 1 Hall 2 In-Reply-To: References: <46C11DF4.80707@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <46C3112A.3040904@defoam.net> satyadhyan chickerur wrote: > Dear All, > > i have started a new google group " Open source for Healthcare " . > Inviting all of us to be a part of it > http://groups.google.com/group/opensource-for-healthcare The OpenHealth list has existed for a considerable time and iscurrently hosted on Yahoo groups - excessive duplication tends to reduce effectiveness. It is openhealth@yahoogroups.com Sending mail to openhealth-subscribe@yahoogroups.com may sign you up, or you may have to navigate to the web page for it and click there. OSHCA itself arose from or following discussions on the OpenHealth list which was at that time run by and solely looked after by the Minoru corporation. There is also linuxmednews.org which is a useful public noticeboard or journal and dates from similar times. If we develop new communal resources we should make them resilient - so that the loss or death of one person or failure of one organisation does not remove them from use or control. New lists should have a specific purpose, and given the low traffic on Openhealth, I suspect for most things except internal organisation it is better to handle it on there. -- Adrian Midgley From marvin at pascual.com.ph Wed Aug 15 14:28:40 2007 From: marvin at pascual.com.ph (Marvin Pascual) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] ODF vs OO-XML Message-ID: Hello all, Attached is a good presentation about ODF vs OO-XML made by Anand Vaidya. You may want to use it as your reference to fight against OO-XML as an ISO standard document format. May the source be with you... -- MARVIN T. PASCUAL Mobile No. +65 9779 6078 Telephone No. +65 6404 9250 E-Mail: marvin AT pascual DOT com DOT ph Google Talk ID: marvin AT pascual DOT com DOT ph Yahoo! Messenger ID: bintut -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Marvin Pascual wrote: >Hello all, > >Attached is a good presentation about ODF vs OO-XML made by Anand >Vaidya. You may want to use it as your reference to fight against >OO-XML as an ISO standard document format. > >May the source be with you... > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >FOSS_health mailing list >FOSS_health@oshca.org >http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/955 - Release Date: 8/15/2007 4:55 PM > > From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed Aug 22 06:26:51 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Re: [Hardhats] Re: X-links for VOE interfacing In-Reply-To: <1187710641.145177.197620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> References: <1187580587.391303.147850@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187635262.655054.151710@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187646659.538611.207920@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46CA4889.7090609@e-cology.ca> <1187710641.145177.197620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <46CB66AB.1080503@pc.jaring.my> http://modernhealthcare.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/FREE/308090001 CCHIT-certified World VistA EHR facing delays > The delay can be attributed in large measure to unique legal and > business considerations that arose by virtue of certification as an > open-source software product, according to Joseph Dal Molin, interim > president and vice president of business development for WorldVistA. > "The main thing that has been the stumbling block for us is > translating the (24-page) CCHIT agreement into an end-user agreement," > Dal Molin said in a telephone interview. "We need to maintain > certification in an open-source world. As bizarre as it may seem, we > didn't anticipate that as part of the (development) effort." > Molly javid wrote: >IMHO commercial entities will jump in only when they see a good >response and some buzz. I think that can happen only when Cchit >version is officially out--again IMHO > >javid > >On Aug 20, 10:06 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > > >>Chris, >> >>There is nothing preventing any vendor that has "enhancing >>services/products" to interface with a VistA based system today. There >>are several ways to do it and CCHIT certification does not affect this. >> >>Joseph >> >> >> From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Wed Aug 22 06:48:54 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Re: [Hardhats] Re: X-links for VOE interfacing In-Reply-To: <46CB66AB.1080503@pc.jaring.my> References: <1187580587.391303.147850@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187635262.655054.151710@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187646659.538611.207920@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46CA4889.7090609@e-cology.ca> <1187710641.145177.197620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46CB66AB.1080503@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <46CB6BD6.7040207@pc.jaring.my> On the unique legal considerations.... OSHCA2007 Conference recently had this plenary session. > Legal issues impacting the use of open source software in health care. > Software relating to healthcare: an introduction to some legal issues > his paper examines legal issues relating to the use of open source > software in healthcare, and in particular, discusses questions of law > that fall within the purview of the law of contract, and the law of > tort. Software is ubiquitous in the modern word. Nothing is ever done > without it, and it would appear, nothing is ever going to be done > without it . Yet, as the historian Edward Gibbon said it, it is easier > to deplore the state of than to describe the condition of software > users. - by GK Ganesan, Malaysia Molly Molly Cheah wrote: >http://modernhealthcare.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/FREE/308090001 > >CCHIT-certified World VistA EHR facing delays > > > >>The delay can be attributed in large measure to unique legal and >>business considerations that arose by virtue of certification as an >>open-source software product, according to Joseph Dal Molin, interim >>president and vice president of business development for WorldVistA. >>"The main thing that has been the stumbling block for us is >>translating the (24-page) CCHIT agreement into an end-user agreement," >>Dal Molin said in a telephone interview. "We need to maintain >>certification in an open-source world. As bizarre as it may seem, we >>didn't anticipate that as part of the (development) effort." >> >> >> >Molly > > >javid wrote: > > > >>IMHO commercial entities will jump in only when they see a good >>response and some buzz. I think that can happen only when Cchit >>version is officially out--again IMHO >> >>javid >> >>On Aug 20, 10:06 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Chris, >>> >>>There is nothing preventing any vendor that has "enhancing >>>services/products" to interface with a VistA based system today. There >>>are several ways to do it and CCHIT certification does not affect this. >>> >>>Joseph >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ >http://groups.google.com/group/Hardhats >To unsubscribe, send email to Hardhats-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >-~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- > > > > > From dalmolin at e-cology.ca Wed Aug 22 07:08:04 2007 From: dalmolin at e-cology.ca (Joseph Dal Molin) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Re: [Hardhats] Re: X-links for VOE interfacing In-Reply-To: <46CB66AB.1080503@pc.jaring.my> References: <1187580587.391303.147850@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187635262.655054.151710@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187646659.538611.207920@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46CA4889.7090609@e-cology.ca> <1187710641.145177.197620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46CB66AB.1080503@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <46CB7054.8090509@e-cology.ca> To add some context which has been provided on the VistA community discussion list and not on openhealth or the OSHCA list. WorldVistA EHR is the first and only (so far) open source EHR to have passed CCHIT EHR certification. Without going into excruciating detail, certification brings with it responsibilities that in effect require protection of the certification branding. Improvements to certified software must be vetted by the organization holding the certification agreement...so in a way it reinforces the behaviour the GPL is designed to encourage. WorldVistA EHR is a mix of GPL and Public Domain software....like any FOSS software there is the potential for the code to be forked. In a nutshell, the certified version cannot be forked and stay certified...what we are working on is an end user agreement to address this and other scenarios which only focuses on the ability to claim use of certified code and does not affect the open source nature of WorldVistA EHR. Like all "trail blazing" work, it is often impossible to predict the challenges one will encounter or how long it will take to work through them. In this case...the quote below didn't quite capture the reality....what we were not able to do is invest in working on sorting out the certification agreement while at the same time work on passing certification. To put it all into perspective... uncertified version of WorldVistA EHR has been available as a download for several weeks. The benefit of all this to the rest of the open source health IT community is that WorldVistA will have blazed a path that others can follow and demonstrate that you can have your "cake and open source it too". Cheers Joseph Molly Cheah wrote: > http://modernhealthcare.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/FREE/308090001 > > > CCHIT-certified World VistA EHR facing delays > >> The delay can be attributed in large measure to unique legal and >> business considerations that arose by virtue of certification as an >> open-source software product, according to Joseph Dal Molin, interim >> president and vice president of business development for WorldVistA. >> "The main thing that has been the stumbling block for us is >> translating the (24-page) CCHIT agreement into an end-user agreement," >> Dal Molin said in a telephone interview. "We need to maintain >> certification in an open-source world. As bizarre as it may seem, we >> didn't anticipate that as part of the (development) effort." >> > Molly > > > javid wrote: > >> IMHO commercial entities will jump in only when they see a good >> response and some buzz. I think that can happen only when Cchit >> version is officially out--again IMHO >> >> javid >> >> On Aug 20, 10:06 pm, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: >> >> >>> Chris, >>> >>> There is nothing preventing any vendor that has "enhancing >>> services/products" to interface with a VistA based system today. There >>> are several ways to do it and CCHIT certification does not affect this. >>> >>> Joseph >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > . > From gregory.woodhouse at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 11:48:39 2007 From: gregory.woodhouse at gmail.com (Woodhouse Gregory) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Re: [Hardhats] Re: X-links for VOE interfacing In-Reply-To: <46CB7054.8090509@e-cology.ca> References: <1187580587.391303.147850@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187635262.655054.151710@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187646659.538611.207920@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46CA4889.7090609@e-cology.ca> <1187710641.145177.197620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46CB66AB.1080503@pc.jaring.my> <46CB7054.8090509@e-cology.ca> Message-ID: On Aug 21, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > In a nutshell, the certified version cannot be forked and stay > certified...what we are working on is an end user agreement to > address this and other scenarios which only focuses on the ability > to claim use of certified code and does not affect the open source > nature of WorldVistA EHR. Certainly, if there is a fork, I would not expect the forked versions to be certified, but why would the WorldVista EHR also lose its certified status? That doesn't quite make sense to me. "We may with advantage at times forget what we know." --Publilius Cyrus, c. 100 B.C. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/foss_health/attachments/20070821/24fe7934/attachment.html From dalmolin at e-cology.ca Wed Aug 22 20:07:05 2007 From: dalmolin at e-cology.ca (Joseph Dal Molin) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Re: [Hardhats] Re: X-links for VOE interfacing In-Reply-To: References: <1187580587.391303.147850@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187635262.655054.151710@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187646659.538611.207920@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46CA4889.7090609@e-cology.ca> <1187710641.145177.197620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46CB66AB.1080503@pc.jaring.my> <46CB7054.8090509@e-cology.ca> Message-ID: <46CC26E9.7040007@e-cology.ca> WorldVistA EHR would lose its certified status if someone continued to use the WorldVistA EHR name for the forked code. The agreement helps prevent unintentional forking and gives WorldVistA a better vehicle for managing change and the brand name. The certification agreement template is a public document available on the CCHIT site, for anyone interested in the details. Joseph Woodhouse Gregory wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > >> In a nutshell, the certified version cannot be forked and stay >> certified...what we are working on is an end user agreement to address >> this and other scenarios which only focuses on the ability to claim >> use of certified code and does not affect the open source nature of >> WorldVistA EHR. >> > > Certainly, if there is a fork, I would not expect the forked versions to > be certified, but why would the WorldVista EHR /also/ lose its certified > status? That doesn't quite make sense to me. > > "We may with advantage at times forget what we know." > --Publilius Cyrus, c. 100 B.C. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health From dalmolin at e-cology.ca Thu Aug 23 00:05:23 2007 From: dalmolin at e-cology.ca (Joseph Dal Molin) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [openhealth] Re: [FOSS_health] Re: [Hardhats] Re: X-links for VOE interfacing In-Reply-To: References: <1187580587.391303.147850@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187635262.655054.151710@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187646659.538611.207920@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46CA4889.7090609@e-cology.ca> <1187710641.145177.197620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46CB66AB.1080503@pc.jaring.my> <46CB7054.8090509@e-cology.ca> <46CC26E9.7040007@e-cology.ca> Message-ID: <46CC5EC3.9080105@e-cology.ca> Thanks Fred....your examples really help clarify the situation....!! Joseph Fred Trotter wrote: > WorldVistA EHR is using the CCHIT certification in a similar fashion > that many FOSS companies use trademarks. For instance CentOS can use > the GPL codebase of RHEL, but they cannot call it RHEL or otherwise > use the term "Red Hat" in marketing. In a similar fashion, WorldVistA > EHR can be forked and used to create another product, but that new > product cannot be called "WorldVistA EHR" or refer to the CCHIT > certified status of the WorldVistA EHR in marketing. This is a > completely legitimate from a software freedom perspective. Everyone > can have access to the code in a fashions that respect the four > freedoms. Those who wish to pay WorldVistA for the privilege, and > abide by the software maintenance policy, can use both the name and > advertise CCHIT certification. > > I wish it were going faster but this is very important to get right. > WorldVistA is moving into uncharted waters! I can think of no other > FOSS industry with these kinds of complex issues. > > -FT > > On 8/22/07, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: >> WorldVistA EHR would lose its certified status if someone continued to >> use the WorldVistA EHR name for the forked code. The agreement helps >> prevent unintentional forking and gives WorldVistA a better vehicle for >> managing change and the brand name. The certification agreement template >> is a public document available on the CCHIT site, for anyone interested >> in the details. >> >> Joseph >> From fred.trotter at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 23:51:40 2007 From: fred.trotter at gmail.com (Fred Trotter) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [openhealth] Re: [FOSS_health] Re: [Hardhats] Re: X-links for VOE interfacing In-Reply-To: <46CC26E9.7040007@e-cology.ca> References: <1187580587.391303.147850@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187635262.655054.151710@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187646659.538611.207920@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46CA4889.7090609@e-cology.ca> <1187710641.145177.197620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46CB66AB.1080503@pc.jaring.my> <46CB7054.8090509@e-cology.ca> <46CC26E9.7040007@e-cology.ca> Message-ID: WorldVistA EHR is using the CCHIT certification in a similar fashion that many FOSS companies use trademarks. For instance CentOS can use the GPL codebase of RHEL, but they cannot call it RHEL or otherwise use the term "Red Hat" in marketing. In a similar fashion, WorldVistA EHR can be forked and used to create another product, but that new product cannot be called "WorldVistA EHR" or refer to the CCHIT certified status of the WorldVistA EHR in marketing. This is a completely legitimate from a software freedom perspective. Everyone can have access to the code in a fashions that respect the four freedoms. Those who wish to pay WorldVistA for the privilege, and abide by the software maintenance policy, can use both the name and advertise CCHIT certification. I wish it were going faster but this is very important to get right. WorldVistA is moving into uncharted waters! I can think of no other FOSS industry with these kinds of complex issues. -FT On 8/22/07, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > WorldVistA EHR would lose its certified status if someone continued to > use the WorldVistA EHR name for the forked code. The agreement helps > prevent unintentional forking and gives WorldVistA a better vehicle for > managing change and the brand name. The certification agreement template > is a public document available on the CCHIT site, for anyone interested > in the details. > > Joseph > -- Fred Trotter http://www.fredtrotter.com From drcheah at pc.jaring.my Fri Aug 24 08:27:29 2007 From: drcheah at pc.jaring.my (Molly Cheah) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] [Fwd: [FOSS-PDI] India votes unanimously against OOXML] Message-ID: <46CE25F1.4070108@pc.jaring.my> Sharing good news on open standards. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Venkatesh Hariharan" Subject: [FOSS-PDI] India votes unanimously against OOXML Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:57:40 +0530 Size: 5204 Url: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/foss_health/attachments/20070824/12eb8763/FOSS-PDIIndiavotesunanimouslyagainstOOXML.mht From au.jaiganesh at gmail.com Fri Aug 24 21:21:05 2007 From: au.jaiganesh at gmail.com (Jai Ganesh) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] Re: India votes unanimously against OOXML In-Reply-To: <46CE25F1.4070108@pc.jaring.my> References: <46CE25F1.4070108@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: Wanted to share the same. Have a look at *India throws MS open format out of the window* http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Software/India_throws_Microsoft_open_format_out_of_the_window/articleshow/2305780.cms Regards Jai On 8/24/07, Molly Cheah wrote: > > Sharing good news on open standards. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Venkatesh Hariharan" > To: sunil@mahiti.org, "FOSS - Policy and Development Implications" < > foss-pdi@iosn.net> > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:57:40 +0530 > Subject: [FOSS-PDI] India votes unanimously against OOXML > Hi all, > > I just returned from Delhi where I attended the Bureau of Indian Standards > meeting on OOXML. Red Hat is a voting member of this committee and I had the > privilege to represent the company on this committee. The committee has > voted an unanimous "No with comments" on OOXML. I will wait for an official > mail from BIS before saying anything more but thought that I should share > the good news with my friends in the FOSS and open standards community. > > Venky > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS-PDI mailing list > FOSS-PDI@iosn.net > http://lists.iosn.net/mailman/listinfo/foss-pdi > FOSS-PDI is a joint initiative of Bridges.org ( > www.bridges.org); FOSSFA (www.fossfa.net); OWSA (www.oneworldsouthasia.net, > www.digitalopportunity.org); UNDP/APDIP (www.apdip.net); APDIP/IOSN ( > www.iosn.net); UNESCO (www.unesco.org). > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 > 6:51 PM > > _______________________________________________ > FOSS_health mailing list > FOSS_health@oshca.org > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oshca.org/pipermail/foss_health/attachments/20070824/7ecaa8c3/attachment.html From amidgley2 at defoam.net Sat Aug 25 17:12:12 2007 From: amidgley2 at defoam.net (Adrian Midgley) Date: Sun Jan 27 17:55:27 2008 Subject: [FOSS_health] [Fwd: [FOSS-PDI] India votes unanimously against OOXML] In-Reply-To: <46CE25F1.4070108@pc.jaring.my> References: <46CE25F1.4070108@pc.jaring.my> Message-ID: <46CFF26C.4050803@defoam.net> > > From: > "Venkatesh Hariharan" > > > The committee has voted an unanimous "No with comments" on OOXML. Groklaw is keeping track of this. http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20051216153153504 -- Adrian Midgley